Micro 674 9:12 Dream Mafia. Game over

[Alisae]

Grey
Summarize me on what happened in the videa game while I look at VCs.

[Alisae]

Oh look, scum Grey.
How boring.
lol jk

[Alisae]

actually no Grey is scum lol

[Alisae]

Oh yeah
VOTE: Grey

[Alisae]

It was a reaction test Jae cuz I wanted to see how Grey would respond and he probably saw it and ignored it.
Town!Grey scoffs at stupid shit and walks away.
VOTE: JaeReed
Rather persue this now cuz VCA.

[Alisae]

Spoiler: This is a VC

(hi everyone it me the backup mod have a VC)

VC 1.3

Think Tepes

(3)

- BTD6_maker, Firebringer, gerryoat

(L-2)

BTD6_maker

(2)

- The Poetic Assassin, Flubbernugget

Firebringer

(1)

- Think Tepes

-Grey-

(1)

- penguin_alien

Flubbernugger

(1)

- -Grey-

Not Voting:

(1)

- Gamma Emerald

Gamma Emerald is V/LA until Tuesday

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch!

Deadline ends in: (expired on 2017-01-26 16:57:49)

Spoiler: This is the VC After that VC.

VC 1.4

Jaereed

(1)

- BTD6_maker,

Firebringer

,

(2)

-Firebringer, JaeReed

BTD6_maker

(1)

- The Poetic Assassin,

Gerryoat

(2)

-hapahauli Flubbernugget

-Grey-

(1)

- penguin_alien

Flubbernugger

(1)

- -Grey-

Not Voting

:

(1)

- gerryoat

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch!

Deadline ends in: (expired on 2017-01-26 16:57:49)

VCA Makes me want your flip because of how the wagon on your slot suddenly dissapeared.

[Alisae]

Town.
Looks like BTD is trying to solve the game.

[Alisae]

Purdy much!
Look, it's town!Grey.

[Alisae]

tho Grey I still would like your reads

[Alisae]

Jae is.
Why do you think BTD is scum?

[Alisae]

Lol that's funny cuz I looked in your ISO and I'm not liking what I'm seeing.
Hint: It's not the JaeReed Senpai's towngame I know and love.

Not to mention last time you gave reads you had my predecessor as your highest townread.
Sure, that was 200 posts ago. But you're blatantly OMGUSing a slot you townread before.
Also instead of asking for anything else, you jump on me.

AWW MAN JAEREED, SCUM LOVE HAVING A JUSTIFIED VOTE
WINK WINK, NUDGE NUDGE

[Alisae]

Grey I skimmed TPA and I don't like their stuff on you either.

[Alisae]

Townies are usually direct,

while reading their iso I found this lol.

pedit: tbh Grey I would say the same thing about BTD's playstyle. Does that make me town?

[Alisae]

Hey JaeReed.
How come you didn't push hapahuali yet for things like, say, idunno, 470?

[Alisae]

They scumread BTD. They also scumread my slot.
Seeing a pattern here?

[Alisae]

1) I'm allowed to change my mind. Especially considering two of my scumreads flipped town, a re-evaluation of the gamestate was always going to happen.
2) I see a scum push on me, I vote the scum pushing on me. Call it whatever you want but until I see something townie from you I'm not unvoting.
3) I asked for your reasons, I prodded you on the reasoning being lazy, and instead of going more in depth or double checking on your vca you ignored me because you knew you had no argument. It's the same thing I did as scum in Trials where I ignored Gamma trying to engage with me and pushed for his lynch instead, because I knew he'd town it up if I responded directly to what he asked me.

1. Fine.
2. So instead of trying to ask more questions to see if I am going to continue being lazy or if I'm not you jump on me? Ok.
3. Senpai is expecting depth from me...I'm already seeing problems with this.
If why would scum A. Replace in followed by B. Attempt to push something without an arguement. Plus you just said my push was lazy and not really asking me to go indepth about it so I didn't see it that way.
You want depth, here you go:

Think Tepes was an earlygame wagon for a long time.
And then suddenly it dissapears. Vanishes. Gone. Poof.
Instead Fire is the counter wagon.
Why do you think your wagon suddenly dissapeared?
Because scum derailed it.

[Alisae]

Grey the answer is that both Penguin slot and BTD are lurkers.

[Alisae]

Why vote Grey first and then me instead of hap if you feel like that's something I should have pushed on? Shouldn't you then be voting hap?

Cause I'm a replacement who replaced in attempting to reaction test. I liked the response I got.

Okay I'll vote hap now cuz I like you now cuz you has gud reasons for scumreading me not to mention your interactions with me seem to be coming from town.
VOTE: Hap

[Alisae]

3. Ok, what was Tepes an earlygame wagon for? How do you believe scum gained enough sway in the game to swing the wagon? Do you believe the Firebringer lynch was a policy lynch or something more? And yes, I expect something more when you start with a stance and try to work backwards than two VC quotes with no micro level analysis of the votes, because I taught you better than that.

Cuz they didn't exactly have good posts and then dissapeared.
Well considering you just replaced in and then started leading a Firebringer lynch sure. But let me read why that happened first.

[Alisae]

Why vote Grey first and then me instead of hap if you feel like that's something I should have pushed on? Shouldn't you then be voting hap?

Cause I'm a replacement who replaced in attempting to reaction test. I liked the response I got.

Okay I'll vote hap now cuz I like you now cuz you has gud reasons for scumreading me not to mention your interactions with me seem to be coming from town.
VOTE: Hap

You're claiming Slayer's gambit here and I don't buy it.

What's your reason for suspecting Hap? Why did you feel you needed a reaction test to get reads rather than reading the thread and coming to conclusions on what you wanted to push based off that?

Why do you feel my reaction was town over scum? Was there anything in particular you thought I'd not do as scum there?

I did a gambit without knowing what it is.
Ok.

I'm suspecting Hap becuase they're pushing lurkers (BTD, my slot), and they even jumped on BTD for a NK. Seems to me like they really want that lynch to go through for some reason.

And I do that reaction test stuff while I go ISO people. Why can't I do both?

Cuz I'm seeing moreso town motivation rather then OMGUS and scummy posts. AKA the posts I saw in your ISO sorta seemed lackingish to me. I just felt like there could be more. But then I got more. So I liked it.

[Alisae]

Okay just read the Firebringer PL.
And what the fuck did I just read?
That makes me not like TPA even more.
Sure it was a PL, but surely there musta been scum somewhere on that wagon, don't cha think?

[Alisae]

Also I think the message Jae is trying to get across to me is that I need to actually read things.

[Alisae]

I can see him pushing lynchbaity and low content posters as him not putting any effort into actually finding scum
pedit: I'd take TPA, but why you in such a rush?

[Alisae]

Yep.
Someone is putting effort into making their post rhyme and making their posts look pretty.
But not any into actually playing the game besides pushing lurkers and low content posters.

[Alisae]

TPA or Maker. Lets quick lynch one. IDC which. They are both scums

Why are you so confident in BTD?

Echo

[Alisae]

For a second I thought BTD didn't actually pick at the case that Hap posted.
But then he posted his responses to each point within the quote in bold
Which confused me.
I don't like the last post in his ISO tho which is basicly him discrediting a dead townie.

[Alisae]

The only reason why I voted Hap was because of the poetry shit.
The fact they stopped doing it after I voted them cause they seemed like they were putting more effort into ryhming says either I caught it or they just want to be helpful to teh town and try not to hurt it as much.

So here, let me give Hap more ammo

Intent to Hammer

Claim in your next post

[Alisae]

also UNVOTE:

[Alisae]

So you jump at a conclusion before asking me what I thought about the other stuff?
Ok. Sure.

[Alisae]

I think you're scum and you jump on me.
Cool.

[Alisae]

Here, let me give you some ammo
VOTE: BTD

[Alisae]

Go ahead and lynch Alisae tomorrow bee-tee-dubs.

Hopefully I'll see y'all on the flipside.

So you were so sure that BTD is scum and now I'm getting the impression your read suddenly changed?
Huh, that's wierd.

[Alisae]

So you think scum would hammer their buddy in this situation?

[Alisae]

Hold on, I'm not understanding you.
There's 9 players.
So it's likely to be 7v2.
And you think scum would be so obvious to hammer their scumbuddy and then get lynched the next day.
Wouldn't that be playing against a scum's wincon?

[Alisae]

You're not answering my question of how I'm playing against a scum's wincon by hammering my scum buddy right now.
And aren't plans general for things that didn't happen before the events actually happen but you plan for what will happen in the future?
As for the 2nd point, didn't Grey do the exact same thing earlier?

And you're right, I'm not scared of what BTD will flip. Hell, you've been deathtunneling myslot and BTD for about the whole game. What will a town!BTD flip tell you, not about other players, but about yourself.

[Alisae]

A. Obviously they can.
B. My lolhammer makes me "obvious scum" does it not? If so, and BTD were to flip red, then I am most likely the most obvious lynch for tomorrow. Knowing this, why would scum attempt to distance themselves by hammering? That's playing against their wincon.

[Alisae]

Also you still never addressed the point of Grey saying the exact same thing and my question of what will BTD's town flip tell specificly you.
I think you're just straight up conf biasing.

[Alisae]

Don't worry
no one is gonna lose sleep over my lynch anyway.

[Alisae]

TPA in Hap's eyes, he sees me as scum hammering their buddy.
If we were to both flip scum, I would be playing against my wincon.
Especially since I'm getting lynched without a doubt tomorrow.

[Alisae]

dw Hap.
I'll have tonight to come up with the most stunning fake claim for you so that you can CC it

[Alisae]

btw tomorrow is lylo

[Alisae]

unless this does flip scum.

[Alisae]

Scum really wants to frame me.
Got it.

[Alisae]

Also it's Lylo.

[Alisae]

What was that, a meme?

[Alisae]

Um, knowing the 9:12 open set up garrybote I don't think town have anymore PRs.
I mean, I'm a VT, but ok.

[Alisae]

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=09:12

[Alisae]

Also, Jae is also Scum so lynch them Tomorrow.

Reason: Their reads list was so bad its not even funny.

If me and Jae were partners which we aren't, why would he attempt to hardbus me?

[Alisae]

So Jae would attempt to hard bus as SOON as I replaced in?
Why can't that be a TvT or an SvT, Jae being scum in the SvT?

[Alisae]

Nope.

[Alisae]

Honestly I was hoping Hap wouldn't die so I could try to convince him his reads were bad.

[Alisae]

So I lost to scum!Grey.
Rip

[Alisae]

I wub u too man

[Alisae]

Jae why ;~;

[Alisae]

Like I feel bad cuz I wanted to try to prove a point but the person I tried to prove the point too died so my point didn't matter.

[Alisae]

Hap it was nice playing with you atleast.

[Alisae]

BaeReed it's honestly not your fault.