Micro 674 9:12 Dream Mafia. Game over

[hapahauli]

I am very glad to be around,
Thankfully, I have rolled town.
But this

gerryoat

chap,
His filter is crap.
His neck needs a noose right around.

[hapahauli]

VOTE: gerryoat

He has a lot of complaints for town,
About how everyone's clowning around.
But for all he complains,
He does not help out the same,
And for that we should bury him undergroundd.

[hapahauli]

VOTE: BTD6_maker

Mafia want to hide.
Not to be difficult, to shitpost, and cry.
But this is what players would like you to believe,
Because they want to deceive.
While the town continues to divide.

...

PA is assuming that lack of content is scummy. This may be true when all the high-volume posters are more Townish than the lurkers, but this is not the case here.

Posters who post lots of scummy content are better votes than posters who post less content and are harder to read.

Townies are usually direct,
Because it helps give their posts effect
But in both these below briefs,

BTD6_maker

indirectly talks about his beliefs.
The conclusions are useless by any respect.

-Grey- looks mildly suspicious.They are voting Firebringer with next to no reasoning. They are making a lot of posts that are of very little use. They are getting very emotional over irrelevant matters.

I am not sure whether they are actual scum, though, or just bad Town.

ThinkTepes is an interesting case.

I currently have them as weak scum.

I say an interesting case

because there are two players with two contrasting playstyles. I feel that it is ThinkBig who is mainly giving reasons and analysis rather than KainTepes.

Either way, I will judge their replacement (unless they somehow show up).

BTD6_maker

hasn’t been away,
He has seven posts and has played,
But one must cede,
That he only has two weak scum reads,
He cannot be hunting mafia in this way.

[hapahauli]

Here's my analyzation of JaeReed:

In a multiball game I played with them, they were really quite new iirc.
Then I played in a Newbie game with them, and they (along with most) gave me a Town read.

My guess is that JeaReed either is still trying to figure out how to play exactly and are Town, or They have come a long way and they are Scum.

Town:

gerryoat
Flubbernugget
penguin_alien

Thinking about adding JaeReed to this list. Any objections?

VOTE: JaeReed

???

[hapahauli]

VOTE: -Grey-

Why are you voting

Grey

?
He drew a lot of attention yesterday.
When a player acts rashly and mean,
They are frequently

green

,
And the

mafia

continue lurking away.

So he voted a townread despite all the crowing about how bad my hammer was AND saying he wanted to lynch me yesterday?

Lel.

VOTE: TPA

Why do you think

TBA

is scum?
Is he mafia, or just really dumb?
It is not very probable,
For mafia to make a contradiction so horrible,
So lynching

BTB6_maker

is the best outcome.

[hapahauli]

Penguin_alien

also thinks mafia is

Grey

,
Because he’s posting in an anti-town way,
But instead of pushing her vote,
She argues with

Gerryoat

I would also lynch her today.

[hapahauli]

Perhaps it may be a "good play",
For mafia to vote like that yesterday,
But in your obsession,
You ignore the most important question:

How likely is mafia to play that way?

Now give people what they need,
Talk a bit about

JaeReed

.
You had put your vote down,
But were previously reading him town,
The progression is confusing indeed.

[hapahauli]

But everyone seems to be ignoring,
What mafia did while we were snoring,
Last night

Flubbernugget

died,
I opened his filter and looked inside,
And which lynch do you think he was exploring?

VOTE: btd

[hapahauli]

But everyone seems to be ignoring,
What mafia did while we were snoring,
Last night

Flubbernugget

died,
I opened his filter and looked inside,
And which lynch do you think he was exploring?

VOTE: btd

yeah, I was going to look at the stances Flubber made, but hadn't got around to it yet. It could be telling that he voted Maker, but I would need to see some reasoning from flubber on Maker to conclude that is why he was killed.

He could have just been NKed because certain people Town read him? Readdynamics or something like that.

What is Maker at? I'd like to vote him.

But everyone seems to be ignoring,
What mafia did while we were snoring,
Last night

Flubbernugget

died,
I opened his filter and looked inside,
And which lynch do you think he was exploring?

VOTE: btd

yeah, I was going to look at the stances Flubber made, but hadn't got around to it yet. It could be telling that he voted Maker, but I would need to see some reasoning from flubber on Maker to conclude that is why he was killed.

He could have just been NKed because certain people Town read him? Readdynamics or something like that.

What is Maker at? I'd like to vote him.

The point I'm trying to submit,
Is that Firebringer's reads can be shit,
But if we're going to listen to the dead,
We should listen Flubber instead.
Cause Firebringer didn't play he just quit.

[hapahauli]

I don't think grey is scum.

@gerry I need time to reread basically. The flips so far means my reads were absolute shit, especially given Flubber nightkill over someone like penguin who was pretty unanimously agreed on as town.

@hap Flubber was also investigating both myself and gerry. Why do you believe he was killed for investigating btd rather than gerry or myself?

A few people called BTD suspicious,
But Flubber's pursuit was particularly vicious.
But I'd rather focus on

BTD's

day 1 play,
And oh by the way,

Penguin_alien

is not town in the first place.

[hapahauli]

EDIT:

A few people called BTD suspicious,
But Flubber's pursuit was particularly vicious.
But I'd rather focus on BTD's day 1 play,
And oh by the way,

Penguin_alien is not town; she's seditious.

[hapahauli]

Penguin_alien

also thinks mafia is

Grey

,
Because he’s posting in an anti-town way,
But instead of pushing her vote,
She argues with

Gerryoat

I would also lynch her today.

[hapahauli]

Dear townies, can we vow,
To consolidate on a lynch right now.
The defense of BTBmaker,
Shows that he's a faker.
Lines like these make me raise my eyebrow:

I will pick apart Hapahauli's case on me.

Mafia like to boast,
That they can turn a case into toast.
But all his excuses,
Are that his playstyle is useless.
His explanations are lacking at most.

[hapahauli]

I'm going to take a break from rhyming for a bit. While I had a lot of fun doing it...
a) It's incredibly hard to make detailed analysis in limericks, and;
b) This game is a bit inactive, and I cannot take for granted that players will really consider things the way I want them to.

This is how I'm reading this game:

Alisae

BTB6_maker

-Grey-

gerryoat

TPA

JaeReed

Let's start with the town-reads. I have

very

strong town reads on gerry, TPA, and JaeReed.

Gerryoat

is clearly pushing the game along, and has a vested interest in keeping the activity of the game alive. He is very clearly hunting mafia.
I've been very impressed by the quality of some of

JaeReeds

posts.

I mean that's kind of why I asked for reasons and mentioned the 180. Which he then ignored.

I don't know if being inconsistent coming in after a night phase is necessarily scummy though beyond surface level. Like you'd have to believe he'd be that sloppy as scum so as to both forget his townread on me prior to the lynch, and not have a case ready to push when asked about the read flip.

JaeReed very deeply considers the TPA situation. It's so easy for scum to just jump all over this, but you can see he's actively considering all explanations here.

One thing I did like about hap was he took hard stances on I think every major issue in the thread. The read on Grey, Tepes, TPA.
What I don't like is that along with his style this game he has only pushed lynchbait low content posters, which makes it incredibly hard to read him.

It's something that can come from town just as easily as from scum. It's plausible he believes he has PoE'd the game down to that. It's just not how it has been framed so far in that it all seems like actual scumreads from him.

Again, same thought process. Considering both sides of the argument, posting real analysis, and not painting things as a black or white issue. You can see he's actually trying to read my posts, and not turning my rhyming into a black-or-white issue.

TPA

is doing things that are just outright suicidal as mafia. His completely unexplained 180 on his Grey read is something that mafia would find very hard to post. TPA seems completely unconcerned with his reputation, and just is posting what he's thinking. That's a very clear town mentality. It's psychologically incredibly difficult for someone who knows their guilt to do what TPA is doing.

The rest of the players next, one by one.

[hapahauli]

-Grey

is a puzzle to me. He's my "margin of error" read right now.

On the one hand, I think his D1 hammer is very attention seeking. He doesn't bother to fake a scumread on Firebringer, he just hammers him. The no excuses, "fuck it, he's useless" mentality seems pretty genuine.

On the other hand, he currently owns the worst vote in the game. Grey's progression of his read on me:

hap raises a valid point.

Seemingly, thinks I'm town.

But everyone seems to be ignoring,
What mafia did while we were snoring,
Last night

Flubbernugget

died,
I opened his filter and looked inside,
And which lynch do you think he was exploring?

VOTE: btd

This assumes that because Flubbernugget was voting me and he died, that is evidence against me. Dead Townies can be wrong,

and are as likely to be wrong as any other Townie.

Err.. not necessarily?

I actually agree with this.

Town is often killed for being on the right track. Aside from PR kills, the next biggest threat is read accuracy.

Agrees with my post on BTB/Flubber.

Oh yeah, and hapahauli is fucking impossible to read because of that rhyming shtick.

He thinks I am impossible to read.

VOTE: hap

I can vote hyur.

Therefore, vote me?

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So that's where I am on him. Hammer points to town. Voting someone you consider unreadable over people you scum-read is a no-no and points to mafia.

[hapahauli]

BTB6_maker

is a lurker. I made the case on him at the beginning of the day primarily because I thought he was a lurker and wanted to get more information from him. Also, I think making it to LYLO with a player like BTB is a disaster. He will be a liability regardless of alignment due to his activity.

That all being said, I do legitimately think he is mafia for his defense.

I will pick apart Hapahauli's case on me.

In my experience playing this game, stuff like this always comes from mafia. Mafia generally aren't confident, but try to put up a "front" of calmness or confidence. But that also betrays their mentality. When a townie is falsely accused, you generally see a very emotional response. Something along the lines of "FUCK YOU, I'M TOWN." Even if people don't explicitly say it, posts will generally betray that mentality. You'll typically see some emotion (sadness, anger, frustration). Most people do not enjoyed being called liars.

The mentality of "I will calmly pick this case apart now" is

very hard to come from town

. That's not a natural thought process from someone who is falsely accused.

Secondly, his actual defense. His defense boils down to "I can do this as either alignment." And to his credit, he is certainly a lurking player regardless of alignment. However, what's suspicious is what his defense is missing.

Nothing about his defense tells us that he's town.

. Again, the "FUCK YOU, I'M TOWN" psychology of being falsely accused. Nothing in that defense is about him being town. It's all about discrediting the analysis because he can do it as either alignment. Logically valid? Yes. But psychologically very suspicious.

[hapahauli]

I've posted all I needed to on

Penguin

before.

Penguin_alien

also thinks mafia is

Grey

,
Because he’s posting in an anti-town way,
But instead of pushing her vote,
She argues with

Gerryoat

I would also lynch her today.

(I was pretty proud of this limerick tbh.)

Her vote on Grey, combined with 4 posts over a few days actively arguing against grey's vote on Tepes makes little sense from a town perspective.

Very quick post, around more this weekend, husband had surgery early yesterday, been dealing with prep/aftermath.

From my scan:

Limericks are fucking annoying, FTR. I don't think gerryoat started conflict with me per se that prevented me from pursuing my lynch choice. Firebringer begging for rope did more for that after my own apathy. Have to reread in light of flips. Don't have current reads.

This defense is pretty bad.
a) Scum enjoy shitting on other players (limericks) without providing anything to the thread themselves.
b) "Firebringer begging for rope" is a pretty bad excuse, considering that Firebringer started his emo suicidal thing on Jan 19th, and all those posts I picked out from her arguing with garry were from Jan 16th to 19th. She clearly had enough time to argue with Gerry. Why didn't she push her vote? Simply, she wasn't interested in pushing her vote, and just interested in looking like she was contributing.

As for the replacement...

[hapahauli]

VOTE: Alisae

Alisae looks like mafia. Really mafia. I typically give replacements some time to work. But I've just seen Alisae work and it's bad.

You can look at Alisae's play since the replacement in two ways:
a) That he's throwing his vote around in an effort to pressure players and generally catch up in the game. "Reaction test."
b) That he's throwing his vote around because he wants to look like he's doing something in the thread.

Explanation b makes much more sense. His play reads a lot like she's throwing around suspicions, rather than trying to solve the game. JaeReed picked up one one bit:

Hey JaeReed.
How come you didn't push hapahuali yet for things like, say, idunno, 470?

I'll let you in on a secret that I'm fairly sure you would have figured out by now, and I'm pretty sure I've also told you when we were discussing tells.

No tell is perfect. Town will also jump on a nightkill. That's why you have to analyze the way one goes about it.

I could ask you the same thing, though. Why vote Grey first and then me instead of hap if you feel like that's something I should have pushed on? Shouldn't you then be voting hap?

I'll also share something else with you: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p8332123
I'm pretty sure I've already shown you that but take a look and memorize it for when you're town. You're making the same mistake scum!GL made here in assuming I'll listen to a scumread trying to tempt me with one of my tells. If I thought enough of it either way I'd be pushing it.

It makes very little sense for Alisae to attack JaeReed for not reading me as suspicious without voting me. It shows a mentality that he's voting someone, throwing reasons for why they could be mafia, throwing reasons for why OTHER people could be mafia, and making the next vote.
A townie mentality is much more clear and direct. "I think mafia is <player> for <reasons>." Alisae is just flailing about with a very unnatural thought process.

Her vote sequence on me is also very bad. While I don't care much for her reasons for voting me, I don't think they're independently scummy. What's scummy is what he does after voting me.
Votes me.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p8785400
Attacks Tepes.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p8785437
Attacks TPA
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p8785618
Attacks BTD (despite having her vote on the guy who has been pushing him the hardest).

He's not just "catching up". He's just throwing shit around and seeing what sticks.

Ergo, he's mafia.

[hapahauli]

So yes, I've arrived at two "lurkers" (and -Grey- sort of). I am pretty sensitive to this. I've played this game enough to know that attacking two such players can be perceived as "opportunistic" or "lazy."

However, it is not just the frequency, but rather the content of penguin/BTB's posts that I found suspicious. That, combined with some pretty strong town reads on Jae/Garry/TPA help me narrow this game down. I'd feel far less comfortable with this game if it thought penguin/BTB were simply inactive, rather than suspicious.

[hapahauli]

I also have no idea why I keep confusing my pro-nouns with regard to Alisae. The female anime avatar makes me think "female" for some reason, and I keep having to fight against it...

>_>

[hapahauli]

I very clearly stated my two strongest scum-reads were BTB and Alisae.

[hapahauli]

Anyway Grey, I don't know where you stand on this game beyond your "annoyance" vote. Who do you think is mafia?

Have you not been following that Alisae replaced in for penguin?

[hapahauli]

Anyway Grey, I don't know where you stand on this game beyond your "annoyance" vote. Who do you think is mafia?

Have you not been following that Alisae replaced in for penguin?

This is the closest thing you have:

Anyway Grey, I don't know where you stand on this game beyond your "annoyance" vote. Who do you think is mafia?

Have you not been following that Alisae replaced in for penguin?

tho Grey I still would like your reads

I have a grudge scumread on TPA. I think his push on me is disingenuous.

That said, I agree with stuff he says that

isn't

about me... so I'm kinda torn there.

My pet scumread was flubber and I was going to keep pushing him today, but he was killed last night so meh.

I'm not explicitly townreading BTD, but he's not exactly a scumread either. Not a fan of Gerry pushing me to hop on the wagon when it's already at L-2.

Penguin was striking me as lurker scum.

Jae is town.

The bolded is what I'm curious about, because it's very vague. Mainly the reads on Gerry and the Alisae/Penguin slot.

[hapahauli]

Dear god is there any way to turn off these auto-quotes?

[hapahauli]

My point in all of this is that all I really know about your scumreads is that you find rhyming annoying. Which aside from hurting my fragile feelings, also makes it hard to feel good about your slot.

[hapahauli]

The bolded is what I'm curious about, because it's very vague. Mainly the reads on Gerry and the Alisae/Penguin slot.

Before I talk to you about gerry, why don't you tell me why you aren't pushing Gerry instead of BTD considering you are following flubber's reads?

Since flubber died voting Gerry, that's obviously who he was scumreading the strongest.

And yeah, it's hard not to be vague when talking about lurkers.

Sure.

As stated previously, I think Gerry is town because he is very clearly interested in the activity of the thread and is pushing the game forward. You can see this on both days in this game.

I

am not

reading BTB solely on Flubber's read. I

never

lynch people solely based on mafia shots. You'll notice that my entire case on BTB on the last page didn't deal with Flubber's read at all. The only reason I made that post is that I found the reasons TPA's 180 on JaeReed absurd (sheeping Firebringer), and that I specifically wanted to address how dumb that reasoning was, and perhaps make an argument that would appeal more to TPA. You'll notice that I explained this in my filter earlier:

The point I'm trying to submit,
Is that Firebringer's reads can be shit,
But if we're going to listen to the dead,
We should listen Flubber instead.
Cause Firebringer didn't play he just quit.

I really regret bringing Flubber up in the first place, because people seem to be latching on to that a lot more than what makes BTB6_maker actually scummy - his defense.

[hapahauli]

After reading Hap's ISO, I'm really looking forward to his answer.

He was pushing gerry d1, who flubber was also voting.

Then, overnight he forgets that push and bounces over to BTD out of the blue.

It doesn't make sense.

When I had just replaced in, I skimmed the thread and plopped down a vote on gerry. I found him being critical of the thread suspicious, and wanted to see how people would react. Of course, the day ended far earlier than I anticipated after Flubber got hammered.

So overnight, I read the thread in-depth and caught up. I changed my opinion on Gerry. His "critical" attitude made a good deal of sense, and I was ignoring that he was legitimately trying to push the game forward on Day 1. The two reads I arrived at during the night were BTB and penguin, hence my immediate cases.

Point is, my play makes perfect sense when you consider that I can read the thread and change my opinions.

[hapahauli]

Flubber didn't get hammered. Fire did.

Guess I'm not the only one that forgets shit.

I can't say I agree with your townread on Gerry. He asks a lot of questions, but I never see him actually doing anything with it. It's like he's just dropping them in the thread to look engaged, but not actually responding to the answers he's being given.

Fire. I meant fire. Anyway, is there anything in my explanation that doesn't make sense?

There's also some more stuff on Gerry, like his interaction with TPA. In his ISO, #59 to 64. He pointed out a pretty good inconsistency in TPA's filter, but doesn't feel the need to jump down TPA's throat. He waits for answers, votes him for pressure, then considers an alternative explanation.

I guess what was said about TPA not doing something that obvious as scum makes sense, but idk. Coulda just been a spur of the moment thing. Either way,

VOTE: BTD6_Maker

It's a thought process that show's he's actively considering the game, and not just pushing suspicion around.

Anyway, I don't care that you read Gerry as strong as I do. What do you htink about Alisae? I've posted quite a bit on him, so at least consider it.

[hapahauli]

VOTE: Hapahauli

Why is he scum?

Just more evidence of BTB being mafia. It's a pure OMGUS vote.
He's voting me because he thinks my case is bad, not because he thinks I'm mafia. He's not trying to solve the game.

[hapahauli]

I think Alisae's shining through pretty strong. Did you even read what I posted?

As for BTB, I've gone through most of his game history. The guy gets mislynched as town like every other game. For all the people who could be making an OMGUS vote, his makes the LEAST amount of sense, since townies are mislynching him on the regular. On top of that, he's doing all the above while putting me at L-1.

He's mafia folks.

[hapahauli]

Arent you, Alisae, and BTB voting me?

[hapahauli]

Ah, you unvoted sorry, didn't catch that. The rest of what I posted on BTB still stands.

[hapahauli]

Yeah actually.

VOTE: Alisae
...
Her vote sequence on me is also very bad. While I don't care much for her reasons for voting me, I don't think they're independently scummy. What's scummy is what he does after voting me.
Votes me.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p8785400
Attacks Tepes.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p8785437
Attacks TPA
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p8785618
Attacks BTD (despite having her vote on the guy who has been pushing him the hardest).

He's not just "catching up". He's just throwing shit around and seeing what sticks.

Ergo, he's mafia.

Townies just don't do this. This isn't scum-hunting or "catching-up", it's throwing shit at a wall.
Does it make sense to you that he has his vote on me, while attacking BTD for discrediting a dead townie?

[hapahauli]

I'm not sure why you think people cannot betray their motivations in just a few posts. That's all it takes to show a mafia mentality.

[hapahauli]

Yeah actually.

VOTE: Alisae
...
Her vote sequence on me is also very bad. While I don't care much for her reasons for voting me, I don't think they're independently scummy. What's scummy is what he does after voting me.
Votes me.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p8785400
Attacks Tepes.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p8785437
Attacks TPA
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p8785618
Attacks BTD (despite having her vote on the guy who has been pushing him the hardest).

He's not just "catching up". He's just throwing shit around and seeing what sticks.

Ergo, he's mafia.

Townies just don't do this. This isn't scum-hunting or "catching-up", it's throwing shit at a wall.
Does it make sense to you that he has his vote on me, while attacking BTD for discrediting a dead townie?

Yup.

Townies don't <- I stop reading right here when people are talking about Anime Ali.

And yet, you consider him readable?

I'm not interested in voting Alisae at this point. I'd rather give him some time to get acclimated to the game.

Penguin had, what, seven whole posts? Hardly enough to condemn a slot.

One thing is certain, it's not a lurker slot anymore. If Alisae is scum, it'll shine through.

I'll read through some of his past games to verify, but even seemingly "random" players do have distinctive town and mafia mindsets.

[hapahauli]

Well alright. Y'all want to vote BTD? I'm totally fine killing him too.

[hapahauli]

Vote: BTD

L-1

[hapahauli]

Vote: BTD

L-1

VOTE: BTD

Formatting.

[hapahauli]

I want to feel pretty.

[hapahauli]

I had not read the rules of the host,
Which said I could vote in bold post.
Alas my formatting is so shitty,
So I want to feel pretty.
And I value my looks the utmost.

[hapahauli]

The only reason why I voted Hap was because of the poetry shit.

The fact they stopped doing it after I voted them cause they seemed like they were putting more effort into ryhming says either I caught it or they just want to be helpful to teh town and try not to hurt it as much.
...

That's funny.

Yep.
Someone is putting effort into making their post rhyme and making their posts look pretty.

But not any into actually playing the game besides pushing lurkers and low content posters.

Why vote Grey first and then me instead of hap if you feel like that's something I should have pushed on? Shouldn't you then be voting hap?

Cause I'm a replacement who replaced in attempting to reaction test. I liked the response I got.

Okay I'll vote hap now cuz I like you now cuz you has gud reasons for scumreading me not to mention your interactions with me seem to be coming from town.
VOTE: Hap

You're claiming Slayer's gambit here and I don't buy it.

What's your reason for suspecting Hap? Why did you feel you needed a reaction test to get reads rather than reading the thread and coming to conclusions on what you wanted to push based off that?

Why do you feel my reaction was town over scum? Was there anything in particular you thought I'd not do as scum there?

I did a gambit without knowing what it is.
Ok.

I'm suspecting Hap becuase they're pushing lurkers (BTD, my slot), and they even jumped on BTD for a NK. Seems to me like they really want that lynch to go through for some reason.

And I do that reaction test stuff while I go ISO people. Why can't I do both?

Cuz I'm seeing moreso town motivation rather then OMGUS and scummy posts. AKA the posts I saw in your ISO sorta seemed lackingish to me. I just felt like there could be more. But then I got more. So I liked it.

Smells like bullshit.

[hapahauli]

Go ahead and lynch Alisae tomorrow bee-tee-dubs.

Hopefully I'll see y'all on the flipside.

[hapahauli]

If you've read literally anything I've posted over the last 8 hours, you'd know that I think you're both mafia.

[hapahauli]

Yeah.

[hapahauli]

Your plan:

"Imma going to push other townies, and see what sticks."
"Ah shit, BTD is going down."
"Welp, let's make the best of a bad situation - bus him for town-cred, and shut down discussion for the rest of the day!"
"Lol Hapa, I can't possibly be scum in this situation!"

I think that's pretty believable.

Evidence that points in favor of this.
1) You weren't suspicious of BTD all day.
2) The main reason you want to lynch BTD is to "give me ammo", which is absurd.
3) You wanted BTD to claim. Then you got impatient and went back on your word.

Hell, regardless of what BTD flips, this makes you look bad.

[hapahauli]

To add to #3, it shows that you're not scared at all of the BTD flip, despite you bringing up the power role claim. That's no-bueno.

[hapahauli]

The only reason why I voted Hap was because of the poetry shit.
The fact they stopped doing it after I voted them cause they seemed like they were putting more effort into ryhming says either I caught it or they just want to be helpful to teh town and try not to hurt it as much.

So here, let me give Hap more ammo

Intent to Hammer

Claim in your next post

Do you think it is impossible for mafia to vote for their partner?

The wincon is straightforward. Both of you are the major lynch candidates. Your best chance of surviving is to make some play to distance yourselves from each other. I.e., one of you hammering the other and insisting till the bitter end that "scum can't possibly do that to each other."

I've seen scum hammer buddies many times. Many many times. Have you not?

[hapahauli]

Anyways, no sense in arguing with mafia. I've said all that I need to say.

Good luck!

[hapahauli]

Ah man. Was not proud of my play this game.

Good game gents. I'll be sure to read this one over a few times.