Pick Your Power: Double Deck (GAME OVER)

[Vecna]

The claims went from bottom to top, so he claimed to not have gotten it before anyone claimed to have got it.

[Dunnstral]

hmm

[Vecna]

Who else do you see as scum, vecna?

Atm I can see everyone as scum actually. The last 24 hours have completely fucked over any reads I had before.

If youre town as I suspect, then anyone is possible.

If youre scum, then I strongly suspect the other scum is Fishy.

[Quipla]

DECK x 30 - TRUMP x 1 - DISCARD PILE x 53

DAY 7 VOTECOUNT #9

Dunnstral (3)

- Maxous, drealmerz7, -Grey-

gerryoat (1)

- Fishythefish

drealmerz7 (1)

- Dunnstral

Not Voting (2)

- gerryoat, Vecna

With 7 alive, it takes 5* to lynch.

*4 to lynch in (expired on 2017-01-31 22:32:54)

Deadline is set for (expired on 2017-02-03 12:16:26).

[-Grey-]

VOTE: Vecna

Because potato.

[drealmerz7]

just woke up and caught up

I have a bunch of stuff to do today but there will be words from me (mostly on why dunnstral is flat-out wrong) most likely by late afternoon (east coast) before the 24hr mark (because dunnstral really needs lynched, ppls, this is exactly what scum was counting on, imo, saying scum wasn't aware of how the killing works is naive at best and more likely scum instilling doubt)

more later

[Fishythefish]

There's nothing special about the 24hr mark, unless I've missed something? We can lynch just fine after it.

The kill is doing my head in.

The elephant in the room was that Lights Out Lynching is very dangerous with only one Kd around. Scum could shoot Grey only if they are up for the lynch; so the second lynch can't be scum. It's like a hidden governor power.

That points to Grey or Max being scum (with Max being scared of the watcher). But that still doesn't explain killing TWIE over someone like Vecna. Seems a really weird choice.

[-Grey-]

That points to Grey or Max being scum (with Max being scared of the watcher). But that still doesn't explain killing TWIE over someone like Vecna. Seems a really weird choice.

If you really think I'm shim, TWIE is the obvious kill choice because I was reading him as obvtown and unlynchable and have Vecna as a possible lynch.

[-Grey-]

scum*

[Fishythefish]

Eh. Do scum really care about their own reads when killing? TWIE was a way easier LYLO opponent than Vecna, I'd say.

[-Grey-]

Actually, I'd have probably killed fish over TWIE because he's a town leader.

[Fishythefish]

*was. And, will be.

[-Grey-]

Eh. Do scum really care about their own reads when killing? TWIE was a way easier LYLO opponent than Vecna, I'd say.

I do. If I think someone is unlynchable if town digs in, I kill them.

I don't think twie would have died in LyLo.

[Vecna]

Maybe scum just really like the current balance and where things are going and dont wanna interfere

[Maxous]

Maybe the scum were trying to be too smart for their own good

[Vecna]

Well they avoided the watcher guilty by doing do......which is still something that should not be forgotten

[-Grey-]

Doesn't mean much if they knew who the watcher would be watching.

[drealmerz7]

I think they (with dunnstral) realized TWIE wasn't going to get lynched based on reads given in thread (and hoods?) and decided to do it to try and shake ppl off the dunnstral wagon whilst removing a non-lynch option

it caused a stir more than anything, which I think would be the desire if things weren't going how they were wanting, is my guess - which points to the dunnstral wagon

Maybe the scum were trying to be too smart for their own good

is that how you're feeling now that votes are back on dunnstral?
tried to cause a stir and it didn't work and now you're at 4 to lynch instead of 5?

[Maxous]

Kinda yeah.
Was more referring to making a sub-optimal night kill, in my opinion, but I don't buy the whole framing Dunnstral thing.
There was absolute no need to, he was being lynched anyway.
It would possibly make sense if it was a 'chance your arm' move to get heat OFF Dunn.

[Fishythefish]

Maybe scum just really like the current balance and where things are going and dont wanna interfere

Enough to not care about the second lynch? I doubt it. There's a large pool of possible second lynches here.

[Fishythefish]

I suppose I can imagine this being a desperate play to change *something* and save Dunn. But - still doesn't explain who was killed.

[drealmerz7]

have much of the kills made sense? I thnk it is more distraction trying to figure it out, but, if you all don't I'm not going to try to stop you

nothing with the kill makes me think dunnstral or maxous aren't still the most likely scum

[drealmerz7]

I was figuring that fishy, vecna, or myself were going to be the next kills, that is more where my mind is about the kill

[drealmerz7]

actually, that is exactly what that kill does, it's not about TWIE

it's about fishy, vecna, and me - it's an implication kill, scum want us to think "why isn't fishy/vecna/drealmer dead?" for example, and suspicion switches 1 of us - rather than kill 1 of us to split up our strength, they kill a very-not-likely-lynch in TWIE and increase the chances of one of the harder TR players getting lynched / turning us against each other (the instant thought to my brain when seeing the TWIE kill was "not fishy? omg fishy is scum", but I made myself cool on that quick-jump and backed off the thought, because, no, I can't let fear dictacte the reads, I'm confident in fishy being town, and I've gone back and thought that back over, and yes, fishy is town)

so then I start to wonder about vecna being scum, and I figure both fishy+vecna can't be scum and so if vecna were scum, he'd have killed fishy or maxous

it's all fucking smart, but I'm not buying it dunnstral is smart scum, it's him, and maxous pretty sure - I'm not tunneling my old evaluation, that's just what I still keep coming to as most likely

yes, I'll show why his "case" on me is BS, just haven't gotten to it (distracted by...things...)

[gerryoat]

VOTE: dunn