Mystic Mafia [Endgame]

[Papa Zito]

If you really thought I was lynchproof you wouldn't be trying to lynch me now.

[Papa Zito]

got'em

[drealmerz7]

1x fool

[drealmerz7]

this guy...

[drealmerz7]

can I call you "zitdaddy" ?

[drealmerz7]

"little zit daddy" is better, that is what I was going for

[Papa Zito]

nope

[pirate mollie]

eta: @ dunn - if you are not in kagami's hood then it is likely camn or nahdia. there are reasons why neither of those 2 work.

what do you mean?

she said this at opening today, d4:

I make a new hood every night that lasts for a day/night cycle,

but I had two last night due to another player's ability.

Haven't had a hood with mollie since D3 began.

Both knew what I was going to do, but I consider one to be hard-cleared given no death.

Still doubt the other is scum.

she had 2 hoods. so who is the second 1? she says there are 2 and you confirmed 1 of them?

who is the hard-cleared 1 given no deaths?

it isn't you
it isn't me
it isn't desp
I doubt its dreamz.
its not staeg.

so who it it? who is hard-cleared given no deaths that she is in a pt with?

that leaves camn, zito, nahdia

if camn is in a hood with kagami, then why did camn say this:

[/b]And if we are wrong than

drealmerz

and

{Kagami OR Mollie}

could be reconsidered.. but I don't think we are wrong.

but lets ask camn:

CAMN, ARE YOU IN A HOOD WITH KAGAMI??

here is where it gets weird:

There's something wrong with the communication lines. What happened last night doesn't seem possible unless there's another hood out there, or some communication traveled through a scum PT, or someone is lying.

so now she thinks that some communication passed through the scum pt. who then?

its not nacho he is dead.
its not dunn, she has him as town.
pretty sure its not me since I am town!
its not desp cos of nk.

so who is cleared because of the nk that she has a hood with?

this makes me think that it is not nahdia:

Dunn, how did you know Desp was being protected without knowing it was nahdia who did it?

it seems like something she cld have asked nahdia. but lets ask nahdia.

nahdia, are you in a hood with kagami?

I wanna know who kagami has neighbourized cos of this remark:

Scum eavesdropper explains a heck of a lot, so I think we should get to the bottom of where any mystery hoods came from.

I mean, if she is asking what other hoods are out there, why isn't she saying who SHE is in a hood with and including them in her scumhunting off of pple in pt's?

only zito is left but zito says I am the only person who is playing with him.

I found this while I was trying to find out where kagami had zito as town like he says. she didn't say that btw, so i am unsure where he is getting that from.

I keeeeeeeeep trying to move past it but its these glaring inconsistencies that keep throwing red flags.

if she is a pt with nahdia then nahdia can confirm it just seems odd how her reasoning is playing out.

answers to this will go a long way into convincing desp and calming my final reservations.

[Dunnstral]

Scum eavesdropper explains a heck of a lot, so I think we should get to the bottom of where any mystery hoods came from.

Ah, you're saying that scum could have eavesdropped on the conversation between me and you? (if they targeted me or something) I know they definitely don't have just passive eavesdropping on all hoods

[camntsuki]

Since this day is going absolutely nowhere.

WE HAVE ROLE RELATED REASONS FOR BELIEVING THAT STAEG IS SCUM WE'LL CLAIM AT A LATER JUNCTURE BUT NOT TODAY SINCE YOU GUYS ALREADY LOLOUTTED NAHDIA

[Dunnstral]

ok

I'll believe that

[Desperado]

Staeg - I don't like his claim. Not the claim itself, the claim is weird and funky and I can imagine Fate creating something like this. What I don't like is the claimed absolute lack of trying to do anything with it. That bit rings very false. Playwise Staeg has had very little impact.
Desperado - I had a pretty firm townread on SpyreX which Desperado has inherited. My problem with Desp's play is that it's been more geared towards acquiring orbs than actually doing things (unless ofc these things are done behind closed doors).

The doctor-clear is tainted by a roleblock.

The orb mystery abounds.
pirate mollie - I see you open and engaged and trying to gamesolve. I have no issues with your slot.
camntsuki (camn + Katsuki) - Like I said I don't really understand why so many people townread this. Despite protests to the contrary they really haven't done much that I've been privy to and I didn't like Day 1 at all.
drealmerz7 - Nothing about dreamer's play makes a lick of sense and he needs to die before we get anywhere near endgame.
Nahdia - The only point in Nahdia's favor currently is her un-CC'd doctor claim, but it's a big one.

I'd usually value this less but we have missing NKs.

Kagami - I've already talked about Kagami extensively
Dunnstral - Actually I need to review this slot because I don't remember what he's done. Effort required tho.

???

explain this zito

[Desperado]

unvote
vote: staeg

[Dunnstral]

aren't you hammering

[Desperado]

pretty sure i've said mollie is hammering today

which is kinda why zito claiming my play has been all orb collection all the time, in addition to thinking nahdia is clear because there are missing NKs but the person who she docc'd isn't because ???, are both niggling the shit out of me right now

[Dunnstral]

Why is mollie hammering instead of you

[Desperado]

she's the only person i trust implicitly right now and apparently i'm an orb hungry monster

[Dunnstral]

It's better for you to have the potential to assemble the orb right away

[Desperado]

unvote

[Staeg]

Since this day is going absolutely nowhere.

WE HAVE ROLE RELATED REASONS FOR BELIEVING THAT STAEG IS SCUM WE'LL CLAIM AT A LATER JUNCTURE BUT NOT TODAY SINCE YOU GUYS ALREADY LOLOUTTED NAHDIA

Is this the type of information that you believe you can break the game wide open with?
Because I'm not thrilled.

has any1 noticed that the 2 players who are in no way giving reads are staeg and dreamz?

ok

So, since I'm definitely dying today - dreal did not have connections when infinity is lynched. This decreases the likelihood of him being scum but I still think it's more likely than not that scum don't have a qt. That would also explain, for example, why infinity's orbplay was so different from Kagami's in the narrative where kagami is scum.

And that's very likely, I think. Kagami's play has been incredibly shady today. Not to ruin mollie's story where she and desp are the only people who even care about :holding kagami accountable: while I'm just scumpiling onto their pressure, but Kagami is not very likely to be town.

After that I'd suggest cupcake and zito, but that doesn't really matter, since I neither have much conviction on one or the other nor will my suggestions actually change anything in the long run.

[drealmerz7]

I believe you, staeg

[Papa Zito]

Alright.

VOTE: Staeg

[Nahdia]

good w/ me

VOTE: Staeg

L-1

(don't hammer unless you are supposed to do so)

[Staeg]

~still not selfhammering~

[pirate mollie]

can we let kagami answer my questions? thnx

why are you pple trying to rush this cos those questions are pretty important!

@ nahdia, y/n do you have a pt with kagami?

@ camnsuki do you have a pt with kagami y/n?

@ zito do you have a pt with kagami y/t?

@ kagami will you plz answer dunn's question? thnx