Open 665 - Friends and Enemies - Game Over! Town Victory!!!

[MathBlade]

Mod...I'm v/LA until Monday morning.

I'll try to post some over the weekend but SB and family have priority.

Also...self meta factoid...even though Ali was deservedly suspect, I would not as scum have pushed so hard for what I would have known was going to be a mislynch. I would have been much more laid back and just joined whatever mislynch looked doable. Feel free to ignore because self meta is bad. But what I said.

Also....1 mislynch to go before LYLO. I guess today is still don't claim mode but we should start thinking about the masons claiming soon. Like if there is another mislynch or if scum manages to actually hit a mason a night. Luckily their aim is shit

The meta I have on you is scum. Lynched correctly D1 and you fake claimed Jailkeeper when I was bodyguard. That was a fun game. This reminds me of that.

[havingfitz]

The meta I have on you is scum. Lynched correctly D1 and you fake claimed Jailkeeper when I was bodyguard. That was a fun game. This reminds me of that.

I know I've been in games with you but don't recall the situation. Did we win?

I have non-scum meta too by the way. Pushing early game (i.e. D1 or D2) mislynches aggressively when I'm scum isn't in my scum meta.

[MathBlade]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... ct[]=11821

Your scum meta.
Scum lost.

You guys wasted a shot on me the bodyguard because I fake CC'd your Jailkeeper claim because Jailkeeper+bodyguard in a game that size +masons would be ridiculous.
You pushed Gamma hard after Gamma pushed for Mason partner claim. Got scum read backed into a corner fake claimed Jailkeeper.

[MathBlade]

So I don't trust you as far as I could fling you but I want to see ConManMick and Hawk scum hunt rather than just declare that the pool is x. Because I can do that too. Just there isn't agreement so let's talk about this and see where things are right or wrong.

[havingfitz]

Scum lost.

[havingfitz]

I want to see ConManMick and Hawk scum hunt rather than just declare that the pool is x.

I made a push on Hawk D1 iirc...feel free to peruse points I made. I'm TBD on how I want to proceed today. I need to look the entire game over and I don't think that's happening this weekend.

[mozamis]

doh forgot to vote

vote conmanmick

iso this scumfuck. he has done LITERALLY NOTHING ALL GAME TO FIND SCUM

[MathBlade]

This isn't brownie points central. If Hawk is scum you don't get "Town points" for pushing people D1 that I suspect. You get Town points if you hunt and are Town. This looks like you are stalling to see where you can fall on lynches and want credit for ConManMick or Hawk when they flip scum.

Push who you think is scum with reasons.

[mozamis]

@mathblade well, what are your reasons for attacking fitz?

[Hawk]

Okay so I need to catch up and reread but this is where I'm at.

Grey thought Alisae was a mason. I believe you're town or at least more town than scum MB. Meaning you aren't a mason. I'm not a Mason. only one VT left besides that. Probably AH to be honest but I need to relook to be sure.

So give me just a bit and I'll walk you through the remaining 6. I'm literally unable to breathe through my nose IRL and compiling the associative tells I've seen isn't easy hopped up on meds.

Pedit: I won't flip scum MB. If you lynch me it'll be 60% chance Mason dies tomorrow and we go lylo. I'm fine lynching Fitz today. He's in my scum 3 anyway. You want me to vote him?

[MathBlade]

Please do the mod a favor and vote Ali.
1...She's scum.
2. She's a quitter.
3. moz could be town and is not a quitter.

Vote Ali.

ConManMick -- Why don't you investigate Fitz for a policy lynch? Instead you are acting as if nothing has changed after two mislynches. You know the definition of insanity right?

Because Fitz doesn't have reads.
Fitz suggested a policy lynch.
ConManMick didn't push Fitz for the policy lynch and instead performs the definition of insanity.

[MathBlade]

Okay so I need to catch up and reread but this is where I'm at.

Grey thought Alisae was a mason. I believe you're town or at least more town than scum MB. Meaning you aren't a mason. I'm not a Mason. only one VT left besides that. Probably AH to be honest but I need to relook to be sure.

So give me just a bit and I'll walk you through the remaining 6. I'm literally unable to breathe through my nose IRL and compiling the associative tells I've seen isn't easy hopped up on meds.

Pedit: I won't flip scum MB. If you lynch me it'll be 60% chance Mason dies tomorrow and we go lylo. I'm fine lynching Fitz today. He's in my scum 3 anyway. You want me to vote him?

You should vote who the hell you think is scum. Why the fuck you are asking me who you should vote for is sketchy as fuck.

Let's look at the setup here:

[MathBlade]

7 Vanilla Townies, 3 Masons, 3 Mafiosi
4 VTs have died.

Making it 3 VTs 3 Masons 3 Mafiosi
Even if we mislynch today (God I hope not)
Then we have one or two VTs remaining and 3 or 2 masons left respectively.

At that point it would be LyLO.

So today if we don't lynch a scum we are in a world of hurt and I would like to make sure that situation doesn't happen tomorrow.

By pushing CommanMick and Fitz we can see what is going on.

[ConManMick]

I have been shitposting a lot lately because guess what? Scum don't touch you if you shitpost cos it makes you lynch bait. I have also been tunnelling Moz. This is the part that interests me here:
Both Moz and I are still alive after two days of me tunnelling.
Now, if Moz turned up dead, it would look bad on me. But if I turned up dead? Well now that would look really bad for Moz, which scum wouldn't want. I may still be alive because of shitposting, but I also think it's because I've been very publicly pushing scum, and me being NK'd would've proved it. Combine that with that absolutely shite OMGUS attempt to incriminate me, and frankly I can't see why more people don't want to lynch Moz. So come join me on this wagon, this is a good lynch for today.
More incoming very shortly gotta check something.

[ConManMick]

I could also lynch King, and MB you make a good point about that policy lynch, I need to reevaluate. I also kind of feel like I fell for that, disappointed in my play there.
9 players
3 VTs
3 scum
3 MASONS

Might I suggest we narrow down the lynch pool?

[MathBlade]

I have been shitposting a lot lately because guess what? Scum don't touch you if you shitpost cos it makes you lynch bait. I have also been tunnelling Moz. This is the part that interests me here:
Both Moz and I are still alive after two days of me tunnelling.
Now, if Moz turned up dead, it would look bad on me. But if I turned up dead? Well now that would look really bad for Moz, which scum wouldn't want. I may still be alive because of shitposting, but I also think it's because I've been very publicly pushing scum, and me being NK'd would've proved it. Combine that with that absolutely shite OMGUS attempt to incriminate me, and frankly I can't see why more people don't want to lynch Moz. So come join me on this wagon, this is a good lynch for today.
More incoming very shortly gotta check something.

On the contrary.
When I play as scum I want a Town v Town fight to last as long as possible. Look at Shadowrun Mafia or 1800. Those are good examples where Town ate itself alive.
The fact you are not hunting and just screaming a player is scum over and over again and not interacting with almost half the player base and are pitching a world where not scumhunting makes you Town is sickening.
I do not trust you and if you want to have people think moz is scum you are going to need to explain why.
And you being alive isn't an answer.

[MathBlade]

If either of you are scum it is likely you ConManMick.

The only way to narrow the pool is a mason claim which IMHO is disastrous for Town. We want to see the interactions so that if we do reach LyLO interactions become clear.

[ConManMick]

I have been shitposting a lot lately because guess what? Scum don't touch you if you shitpost cos it makes you lynch bait. I have also been tunnelling Moz. This is the part that interests me here:
Both Moz and I are still alive after two days of me tunnelling.
Now, if Moz turned up dead, it would look bad on me. But if I turned up dead? Well now that would look really bad for Moz, which scum wouldn't want. I may still be alive because of shitposting, but I also think it's because I've been very publicly pushing scum, and me being NK'd would've proved it. Combine that with that absolutely shite OMGUS attempt to incriminate me, and frankly I can't see why more people don't want to lynch Moz. So come join me on this wagon, this is a good lynch for today.
More incoming very shortly gotta check something.

On the contrary.
When I play as scum I want a Town v Town fight to last as long as possible. Look at Shadowrun Mafia or 1800. Those are good examples where Town ate itself alive.
The fact you are not hunting and just screaming a player is scum over and over again and not interacting with almost half the player base and are pitching a world where not scumhunting makes you Town is sickening.
I do not trust you and if you want to have people think moz is scum you are going to need to explain why.
And you being alive isn't an answer.

Fair point, actually. I'll have a look at this again at a more reasonable hour.

[mozamis]

Grey was looking more and more town with his argument with ali.
and mathblade is looking really fucking town. odds of him being scum have got to be pretty fucking small. he's in my town pile.

[MathBlade]

Boo..This post reeks of buddying. Why the fuck would I care about looking Town? I am Town. That is all I need.

Moz reads ?

I don't like how ConMickMan and Fitz both have to re-evaluate. Seems like Moz is a planned mislynch of ConMickMan/Fitz but then because I pointed out they are hunting they have to readjust.

mod: Do scum have daychat?

[MathBlade]

Need snowman and Antihuman to post something.

Majority of people are "re-evaluating" or not providing reasons.

Who here wants to lynch scum?

Explain to me reads. I am running errands tomorrow but will be back saturday night.

[tojam2]

Boo..This post reeks of buddying. Why the fuck would I care about looking Town? I am Town. That is all I need.

Moz reads ?

I don't like how ConMickMan and Fitz both have to re-evaluate. Seems like Moz is a planned mislynch of ConMickMan/Fitz but then because I pointed out they are hunting they have to readjust.

mod: Do scum have daychat?

If you do, I'm concerned.

[tojam2]

VC 3.1

havingfitz (L-1) - MathBlade, mozamis, Lil Uzi Vert, Hawk

mozamis (L-4) - ConManMick
Hawk (L-4) - havingfitz
SnarkySnowman (L-4) - Empking

NV (3) -

gigabyteTroubadour

, SnarkySnowman

(expired on 2017-02-17 16:49:00)

[MathBlade]

Boo..This post reeks of buddying. Why the fuck would I care about looking Town? I am Town. That is all I need.

Moz reads ?

I don't like how ConMickMan and Fitz both have to re-evaluate. Seems like Moz is a planned mislynch of ConMickMan/Fitz but then because I pointed out they are hunting they have to readjust.

mod: Do scum have daychat?

If you do, I'm concerned.

Hahahahahaha nice joke. I would be concerned too since I am Town and not a mason.

[MathBlade]

Daychatting with mysellllllllf......Alllll by my selllllllf......

(Singsongy voice included free of charge)