Micro 679: Double Day Unlimited Hydra Blitz! ~ Endgame

[Elsa and Anna]

You don't have any thoughts on the matter?

[Elsa and Anna]

Interesting assertion given that I got lynched for errantly scumreading you in the last game that we played with.

[Elsa and Anna]

VOTE: Sword and Damocles

I have it on good authority that SS bitched to a person who will remain anonymous for the duration of this game about my complete inability to read them.
There is no possible way that I can parse this entire situation as coming from a town mindset.
I am pretty sure that they're just freaking out because I called their scumteam and they need to get rid of me so let's play.

[Elsa and Anna]

I am just scum opportunistically seeking a mislynch to defend my scumfriend Penguinos obviously.

[Elsa and Anna]

Well I am town. If you are town why is S_S claiming to scumread me for being unable to read me when it is established that he thinks that I cannot read him?

[Elsa and Anna]

Ur hydra buddy bitched to someone I know that I cannot read him and then came into this game and then called me scum for reading him as scum.

[Elsa and Anna]

You are really not talking to me like someone who thinks that I am confirmed scum either.

[Elsa and Anna]

I am town. If you are town, who is scum?

[Elsa and Anna]

Like if you want to say that you're town I don't mind lynching Mantis and dealing with the rest of the game tomorrow but I really don't see that many scumteams.

If you're town the only scumteam that makes sense to me is Penguinos/Mantis and I'm sorta not feeling it based on their play together so do you think there's scum in the townblock?

[Elsa and Anna]

No one.

So you are wrong on a townread which would likely be Mantis or you are just scum.

[Elsa and Anna]

Can you paraphrase what you know of S_S's reads?

[Elsa and Anna]

Elsa head was busy and had a headache yesterday

Elsa head will post more of her thoughts today

Elsa head is sorry

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

Sister hugs!

[Elsa and Anna]

Giga hasn't communicated with me at all and I am honestly feeling less certain of my scumread on your slot from all the drunkposting.

Hopefully I can get Elsa around on a Mantis vote because I'm fairly sure that's scum and idk where else to vote atm.

[Elsa and Anna]

I have a very strong scumread on that slot based on GBT's play and if you will read my blockpost on the subject I think that Creature's been really scummy too.
Like even based off of GBT's own Creature meta he's scum. I understand that GBT probably does not gut!ping you as scum but I think she excels at not gut!pinging people who don't know what they're looking for.

[Elsa and Anna]

Are you Jae or Alisae?

Aristophanes read the newbie game that I just finished with her. 1769. Her emotional state in her posts is full on transparent through the entire game. Have you played with her?

[Elsa and Anna]

Alright here's a thing. There are 6 players alive, and of those players 2 of them are scum. It required four players to lynch.
That means in order to lynch scum today, we need

every single

town to vote scum together.
I can persuade Elsa to lynch anyone who isn't Chi or L&R but we need to get town's support on Mantis eventually or this game is a loss.

To every player in the game: how do I get you to vote Mantis with us?

[Elsa and Anna]

Like idfk what's going with S_S but he needs to sort out his shit and decide where he stands and I'll deal with that later. But Mantis has to go.

[Elsa and Anna]

I will take it. vote them.

[Elsa and Anna]

VOTE: MantisShrimp

[Elsa and Anna]

Mantis Is Rc read

I am suspicious of lewd and peng >.>

[Elsa and Anna]

Jae, what game are you referring to?

[Elsa and Anna]

dota ! pride of the drow >.>
:O
>.>
>.>
did I do it right

[Elsa and Anna]

dota ! pride of the drow >.>
:O
>.>
>.>
did I do it right

>.>

You suck at impersonating me

and post 1310 was mine obviously

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

Lewd and peng scumread on each other during D1 was really unsetteling. Peng started pressuring lewd for what was obviously NAi which gave a tone of towncred to lewd slot as a result.

in return lewd pushed back peng but Not too much to get them lynched - never made a not related to them argument about peng

I find the interactions between these too slots unsetteling

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

The first impression I got from peng slot was like "yeah they seem noonbish" but that's not the case here I'm fairly sure atm

Peng didn't talk about any other slot - didn't took any stances on any other slots that they can be called for it but then they are there to hammer trans ause their townreads were on the wagon.

I call distancing here and feel d1 was just a huge theather of two slots...

this explains the hydra disonences they had and the pressurs for weak reasoning.

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

FA pls respond.

[Elsa and Anna]

My whole argument against RC's mantis scumread is "i don't know giga" and he is using meta

so yeah

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

I'm going to bed. FA is free to do what she wants but I still think that Mantis is scum.

[Elsa and Anna]

What do you think about Creature then, FA?

the only posts he made that I can mark was the part he was suspecting us and said "I wont townread someone who is good at being scum"

and some really weird omitting - his townstyle town hunting.

But This game is a blitz so yeah - he can coast with that shit and no one can make a read out of it so I'm putting it as NAI

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

What do you think about Creature then, FA?

why are you scumreading mantis?

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

Good night sis! <3

[Elsa and Anna]

Why the fuk did you hammer yourself if your town?

and Alisae/Jae I won't get policy lynched in lylo fuck off

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

UNVOTE:

I don't see this flipping scum

why are sure about lewd hydra being town?

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

we didn't have any communications about this game before today after last night hammer

I was busy with RL and really not in the mood for this.

again I don't know HS meta at all but a double bus that won't go through and will just make them hard townreads is not a double buss its a theater.

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

Siriously I don't think peng case on lewd was genuine at all when I was rereading it.

My first impression was "This is a newbie posting" but they don't feel noob at all and lewd way for pushing them back just made them look stupid not scum.

maybe I'm just to paranoid but I tink there is a scum relationship here

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

why you think mantis is scum?

and why sword and Jae hydra are town to you?

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

idk.

[Elsa and Anna]

Jae you've only played with me once as scum. Like I get that your town experience of me was 636 but you claim to have read other games of mine in that game's dead thread.
Is it really so inconceivable to you that I could be town and wrong on a read, particularly where GBT even understood why I was scumreading her, that you're advocating BoPing me over a single lynch?

Something feels really wrong with this whole situation.

[Elsa and Anna]

You had even said that you had us as incontrovertible town several times.

[Elsa and Anna]

I think that GBT's probably town I guess. I don't understand what's going on with either member of her slot but I've seen town pull shit like that several times but I don't think scum ever and I don't think she does that as scum. I believe that we're going to lynch Penguinos today because both of us have some reason to doubt scumreads on every other slot.

Both of us are questioning our Chi townread but I don't have time to reread the game right now so I just want to lynch this and see the flip.

VOTE: Penguinos

[Elsa and Anna]

There's something really, really bizarre with Chihiro deciding that my Mantis scumread being wrong making us scum. If they're town we can't lynch scum anyway today though so *shrug*

I mean I agree with Mantis town now but BoPing me on a scumread that the slot even agreed with is just insane.

[Elsa and Anna]

Idk if Chihiro is town I'm not playing any more on any known accounts. This game has been an absolute stream of bullshit and it makes it really hard to sort scum when everyone gets away with pulling this crap about our slot.

[Elsa and Anna]

I think we no lynch tomorrow. We have the same # of lynches no matter how we parse this and I don't particularly care to be alive nor would I be overly hurt if we lost anyone.

[Elsa and Anna]

That's assuming that Peng is scum obviously.

[Elsa and Anna]

how is 4 terrible for town in this game?

and how is Mantis flip related to your read on us?

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

RC was hard pushing Mantis I wasn't sure it and I actually halfly town read them now after that self vote and their reaction.

How is mantis flip relevant to Jae read on us that chnaged their "I'm sure this slot is town" to a scumread? Its lining up lynches In the double day lylo and its not even funny

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

how is 4 terrible for town in this game?

and how is Mantis flip related to your read on us?

#Elsa

Lynch this holy fuck lynch it.

If people can't tell why, just look at the fact RIGHT NOW that we need EVERY SINGLE TOWN PLAYER VOTING SCUM TO GET THEM LYNCHED.

You better start talking you scum fuck >.>

what about Mantis flip (That this hints you already know what is that going to be) is related to us particullarly that you couldn't push before them?

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Chihiro and Alter Ego

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

how is 4 terrible for town in this game?

and how is Mantis flip related to your read on us?

#Elsa

Lynch this holy fuck lynch it.

If people can't tell why, just look at the fact RIGHT NOW that we need EVERY SINGLE TOWN PLAYER VOTING SCUM TO GET THEM LYNCHED.

Why 4 people in a double lynch day with 1 scum is bad for town?

Are you trying to be practically dumb atm?!

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

I want Jae slot pressured

Now

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

He fucking knows Mantis lynch is a mislynch and he is trying to line up the lynches by making shit up about RC being anti town

Not going to let you get away with this

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

"Presssured" with one day to deadline.

You want me deadline lynched because you're scum.

Its good that you shown your true colors before deadline

I'm greatfull for that

The pressure is standing for "Get on this wagon and lynch the scum"

I want you lynched because your scum

These sudden push on us was terrible - and not town terrible. You could be less greedy and you would win this; do better next time

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

Lynch me, then speedlynch E&A in the 24 hours you have left, please. Then take the proper time to have Penguinos and L&R 1v1, reread the thread properly, and sort which was the partner.

RC likes to do outlier reads on his partners, he doesn't like to nullish read them. He's fine with bussing, and I assume he's fine with hard buddying his partners too.

I'm 1v1 ing with you definitely

Lets do this.

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

also FA, I dont really know if it's your style but do you see Penguinos, Sword, or L&R as the most likely partner to chihiro?

I don't know. The only town read I have that I'm sure about is you.

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

What about what RC said was Anti town?

Three people told you already why it wan't anti town you scum fuck

I'm pushing you for 2 reasons that your repeatedly dodging by claiming how "obvscum" are we.

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

Chihiro is lying about game mechanics to try to push us lol.

If we NL tomorrow it's going to be 1 lynch in 4 way and 1 lynch in 3 way
If we don't, it's 1 lynch in 5 way and 1 lynch in 3 way.

Still 2 lynches except by NLing you reduce the overall amount of players alive.

And for the record I have made no secret of how dumb I find even number logic outside of games where I expect to have one moron town defending scum.

[Elsa and Anna]

Your Not a fucking idiot

your doing this on purpose

Your fucking scum

how close I am to figuring you out? oh wait, I already did

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

Chihiro had us as obvtown then tried to get an excuse to lynch us after Mantis. It seems to me like Chi was scum hoping to profiteer about our misplaced Chihiro read.

This current push on us and the entire heel face turn doesn't make sense. Who are we scum with that we turned down two easy lynches in SOD/Penguinos to push Mantis?

[Elsa and Anna]

Elsa pls calm down they are just scumfucks. *hugs*

[Elsa and Anna]

Litterally it can't be more obvious that they have preflip knowledge about Mantis lynch for the way the lined up the lynches.

Not going to let this scum get away with this

You wanted a 1v1 didn't you? The lynch is llocked on us and chihhiro. get your vote on any of the two

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

Like I just want to point out that Chihiro was hard townreading us then as soon as we were pushing on Mantis out of the blue we became 'must-lynch' status if Mantis was town?
Then we call them out for it and all of a sudden we're like HARD SUICIDE DEATHTUNNEL SCUM who are top priority and ignore our AtE.

I want to lynch Chihiro. I don't care if they are town I would policy lynch that slot for their play today. I am not engaging anything else while they are alive.

[Elsa and Anna]

If they flipped town I will happily accept the third lynch of my entire mafia career on MS.

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

Let's do it and I just want everyon to remember that if this becomes a town loss it's 100% Chi's fault for being a dumbfuck.

Vote yourself, let's go.

[Elsa and Anna]

We're not even talking and we're in total synchronization here. #besthydrapartner

[Elsa and Anna]

No,

you

are better than this as town.

[Elsa and Anna]

FFS w/e even if I'm wrong about the mechanics I know I'm not wrong on E&A. I don't have the patience to check the math right now considering hangover but right now is proving it 100%

FA is confscum for this push. RC is confscum for this push and for the push on Mantis.

Like Mantis was really fucking town start of D1 and for Creature's posting. Sword is town for Ari's posting. Lewd looks town but could be the scum partner I don't suspect as much.

Team is L&R/E&A or Pen/E&A.

I'm not going to self vote but if you agree to speedlynch E&A upon my townflip then just lynch me.

I'm confscum for pushing you after lining up a lynch and uddenly changing your read on us based on a not flipped slot for our push on them

and acting like a dumb noob gathering bullshit for direditing us and then doing ATE to look good with it?

I'm not joking at all. come at me with the 1v1. I always appreciate to play with a scum who tries before getting lynched instead of just giving up like the way most people do after being so obvious scum.

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

RC is better than this as town. FA is better than this as town.

They are scum 100%.

Better than what? finding scum?
yeah I hate blitz games
I lot every single town blitz I had so far beside one grand idea or something.
I wan't ready to commit myself to this game
But I found you so yeah ...
I'm great regardless

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

Do not EVER EVER EVER fall for this shit town. After my townflip POWERLYNCH THIS.

>.>

Calling my pot shit is the best defense you could make for sure!

Never been confident on my reads in past month as much as I am atm ...

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

No, you don't understand me.
I've been uninvested in this clusterfuck of a game because this entire game has been one big ball of shit. Day 1 everyone was refusing to read us and just scumreading us because of our player names.
Even if you are town trying to pull some stupid 1v1 bullshit you won't be the first and you won't be the last. If you're town I will vote someone tomorrow and stop posting and I will make FA do the same.
There you go, you got to decide the game. I still think it's way more likely that you're scum who doesn't see a way out and panicked when you finally got FoSed but if you're town you got the game control you wanted.

[Elsa and Anna]

Stop engaging FA. We have our vote down just ignore them.

[Elsa and Anna]

RC is better than this as town. FA is better than this as town.

They are scum 100%.

Better than what? finding scum?
yeah I hate blitz games
I lot every single town blitz I had so far beside one grand idea or something.
I wan't ready to commit myself to this game
But I found you so yeah ...
I'm great regardless

#Elsa

Do not fall for this once I flip town.

Also them advocating me to self lynch is again anti-town. It's also something RC did as scum against me when I was the one shot fucking bulletproof that he decided was his game winning mislynch.

E&A is scum.

Your not even pushing us. continue making pure shit meta points to descridit us

I make a pinkie swear

I will vote myself if you flip town and I will get the fucking lynch.

Now die scum >.>

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

No I am not selfvoting in LyLo because that is gamethrowing but I will gladly do nothing else.

[Elsa and Anna]

I will selfvote in lylo

conider me a game thrower

Now vote yourself >.>

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

No, you are lying. At no point did either of us even consider you were scum until you pulled the 'if Mantis flips town' bullshit.
No FA we are not going to selfvote on behalf of this bullshit. After Nacho's last game with me I am going that way this game.

[Elsa and Anna]

Also, another point is to go through E&A's iso and note just how many times they were posturing on our slot. They've been gearing up for this for a while now.

I'll happily eat my 3rd mislynch on this site to get scumfuck RC lynched.

what the fuck are you talking about?

I had a townread on you before reading your comment about mantis and us earlier today.

even Jeanne can do better in discrediting as scum >.>

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

No. I will never self vote as town again. It's inherently anti-town. Work for your fucking mislynch.

Your doing a 1 v 1

You rpoposed it

so its the terms : either make a stong case that causes the town to lynch us first then self vote

or self vote right now and flip scum like the way you are

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

Fuck off.

Like if you're scum great but fuck off.

[Elsa and Anna]

Going to sleep

RC can do this push

pedit : I'm not giving up. You dodged the quetion I asked you and acted dumb on purpose and did ATE after me calling you out. I'm pushing who I think is scum and your obviouly faking it so you will die.

I am town here and you won't flip town

Good night

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

You even attacked me for asking questions from you cause of a short deadline in Blitz

Give me a break

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

You're missing the point. If I want to not get lynched this game I will not get lynched this game. We've never gotten lynched as a hydra and I've gotten lynched like, once? in a game where I seriously cared to fight it.
Regardless of what your alignment is your push on me is completely pointless. If you flip town do you realize how scared scum will be to push on us after we just got you lynched for voting us?
Even if we were scum do you really think that not a single town player would be either fooled by whatever AtE we've pulled or have a better scumread to lynch today?

If you want us to carry on playing and trying to win then I want you to stop talking to our slot because I'm just done with yours.

[Elsa and Anna]

No obviously I am perfect. I couldn't possibly end up lynching town. If I'm alive to day 2 I'm probably scum because why wasn't I nightkilled yet amirite. God-king legendary RC.

[Elsa and Anna]

Sorry I will point out that we got lynched as a hydra when I got mad and selfhammered when we were L-1ed on page 2. That doesn't change anything.

[Elsa and Anna]

You even attacked me for asking questions from you cause of a short deadline in Blitz

Give me a break

#Elsa

This didn't happen.

"Presssured" with one day to deadline.

You want me deadline lynched because you're scum.

Now vote yourself

Thanks

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

I don't even know what questions you're talking about but if it's about Mantis townflip = E&A scum I thought I made it pretty clear that I don't think RC misreads the game that badly that a slot that is obvtown is scum to him if he's town. It's starting with an agenda of breaking apart the townblock that was forming.

And no, I can't be fucked doing a full case. Either way town should lynch you today, even if it takes my townflip to do so.

so you practically said if mantis dies and flips town town should policy lynch RC.

I aked you why town should policy lynch RC you twat and how the fuck do you know if they are going to flip town that you are lining up lynches before their flip?

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

This game stopped being fun for me ages ago.

[Elsa and Anna]

Call it what you want, but my scum losses have been once to a vig, twice because I got my team to bus because I was tired of the game, and once because I was killed by another scum faction.

That's all of them.

[Elsa and Anna]

That post and "pressure" that you called scummy becuase of deadline was right after You dodging the same questions you just dodged again

not going to waste my sleep time engaging with you

If you truly want that and you're not sure of us being scum why you claled us repeatedly confscum and asked for a 1v1? are you confirming you just rand a theather before and acted dumb on purpose to throw shit on Rc and our hydra?

cause its like a confession

pedit : You jsut answered it for the first time but with a lie. You never made a push on us. You never made any points about us going under the radar. You never tried to engage with us. You simply attached us to mantis wagon to line up a lynch on us.

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

I am just going to not post. If you want to talk to Elsa go ahead. I will post further after there's a lynch or if we get hammered.

[Elsa and Anna]

I've had a bad gut feel about A&E since the beginning, but that whole interaction was just...wowzers. I can't stand that.

VOTE: E&A

k can unvote if he wants, but my internal alarms are going off.

Why do you scumread the interactions?

Have you played with Frozen Angel before, like ever?

[Elsa and Anna]

I am not at all surprised that FA is at the point because this game has basically us just bitching to each other about how little anyone else is doing and how unpleasant this game has been.
I agree that FA is overreacting but considering the way this game went you guys kinda deserve it.

[Elsa and Anna]

SoD, you are soft defending us but your vote is on us. Why?

[Elsa and Anna]

I've had a bad gut feel about A&E since the beginning, but that whole interaction was just...wowzers. I can't stand that.

VOTE: E&A

k can unvote if he wants, but my internal alarms are going off.

Fuck your internal alarms

I explained why their scum. Vote them or White Knight them or Scum claim

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

But E&A's AtE is just way too over the top.
Like so over the top that I don't think it's coming from town.
-Alter Ego

You don't think so? You and your partner were lining up our lynch based on an Unflipped slot and asked to 1v1 us

and you just think so we're town now?

K

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

I've had a bad gut feel about A&E since the beginning, but that whole interaction was just...wowzers. I can't stand that.

VOTE: E&A

k can unvote if he wants, but my internal alarms are going off.

I don't particularly like threats to throw the game either, but what about that strikes you as scummy rather than just FA being FA?
-smart

I never threat to throw the game

A scum asked for a 1v1 I gave it to them.

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

Really sorry alisae that you think I'm over the top

told you that's what I do : find scum, Vote them and get them lynched

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

There's a point where you either choose to cross that line or you choose to allow yourself to be lynched because of your username repeatedly. At least FA still cares enough because if I wasn't hydraed here I probably would have selfhammered and told you all to go fuck yourselves days ago.

[Elsa and Anna]

But E&A's AtE is just way too over the top.
Like so over the top that I don't think it's coming from town.
-Alter Ego

You don't think so? You and your partner were lining up our lynch based on an Unflipped slot and asked to 1v1 us

and you just think so we're town now?

K

#Elsa

Don't think it's coming from town means your scum.

we were confscum to you before for pushing Mantis who you were pushing as well

Now you "don't think so" that we are town

stop changing what you just said

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

Really sorry alisae that you think I'm over the top

told you that's what I do : find scum, Vote them and get them lynched

#Elsa

Oh I know you're over the top FA.
And I know you like AtE stuff.
There's just a line.
That you crossed.

-Alter Ego

I'm not doing ATE at all

Thats what you did to dodge my quetion by asking a 1v1 with us

I just said yes sure I will happily accept the 1v1 and your slot (Jae I think) just freaked out and started backtracking.

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

Can you, like, answer my question in 1493 instead of dodging it?
-smart

Bruh I saw you.
I just wanna talk to Jae about it before I answer.
-Alter Ego

pedit: but I never said that we thought you're town...
If I thought you were town I would have unvoted you by now.

You can't say that you think I'm town, That will still get you lynched. Your just trying to apease to town and apear like your evaluating us ...

I teach these manipulative approaches in my free time

Get rekt.

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

Your slot was the one who asked for a double lynch on your slot and ours first

I just said sure.

1v1 with scum is not a gamthrow lol

1475 was Anna aying their sad

I said I don't like the blitz shit era's behind - in D1 particularly and I repeated it before today.

That was the answer to Jae's question : that we are better than this as town

I didn't sign up for a blitz shit But I found a scum in it - so I played great

What Jae did was ATE, so thanks for showing that to everyone again

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

Alisae I won't let you get away with this

Whatever you say will be used against you

Stop discrediting me, At this point that's just not playing toward your wincon

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

why peng over these obvscums?

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

VOTE: LewdandRude
VOTE: Elsa and Anna
VOTE: MANTIS SHRIMP

VOTE: Penguinos

I got my answer mantis, nevermind.

Calling the game

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

Yeah, this is the issue for 4 way. We would need every single townie to vote scum.

I think the correct play is for us to selfhammer so we can know for sure that there'll be time to play the day phase but I need to know that Chihiro gets lynched tomorrow.

[Elsa and Anna]

If no one's hammered Chi or Peng by the time FA wakes up I am going to hammer us. I want Peng and Chi to be the remaining two lynches in the game.

[Elsa and Anna]

HS is online and posting in the finished NY200 but not posting here.

[Elsa and Anna]

I'm not trying to generate a read off of it I am FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFing about it.

[Elsa and Anna]

I've changed my mind. If this flips scum I really want Chihiro's head on a plate today.

[Elsa and Anna]

I wasn't buying into the FA confscum like Chi was but the whole 'I want you to keep trying as town and stop AtEing me' is not sitting well for me coming from someone who forced a 1v1.
Even if they're town I'd rather we just get a 3 way with that slot out of the way than try to deal with 4 way with one or both of us still alive.

[Elsa and Anna]

Uhh I speedvote you and if you're town it's your own damn fault.

[Elsa and Anna]

I wanted to lynch you guys before Penguinos because I thought the Penguinos flip wouldn't reflect on your slot while the reverse wasn't true. I made no secret of that.

I'm sick of every time I push on someone I think is scum they react by basically telling me if I'm town I'm the worst person and throwing the game. I have a scumread and I push it. That's how the game is meant to be played, and recently this shit just keeps on happening like suddenly it's site meta to make someone feel like shit for playing mafia.

If I didn't AtE I would get lynched every single game because there's so much ridiculous paranoia about my slot.
I have secret alts where I don't need to AtE because I'm not held to insane and exorbitant standards about trying to prove myself as town.

Unlike FA I am not dead certain that you guys are scum and I can see your slot's behaviour coming from town but the ship of lynching anyone else today has sailed.

I absolutely think that FA was excessive and I called her out for it but if I can't make people feel shitty for voting me I have no defense about getting essentially PLed every game.

[Elsa and Anna]

If you're town that probably makes the remaining scum L&R at this point and I will do my best to win this game in 3 way. But I can't do my job with your slot sitting there flailing at me and FA losing her shit.

[Elsa and Anna]

You're missing my point. No one is voting me because OH HE'S RC HE MUST BE SCUM nor OH SHE'S FA SHE MUST BE SCUM. That's not how this little beastie works.

It's more of like an insidious notion whereby everyone remembers that one time they were so certain that I was scum and then no matter how hard they townread me there's this niggling voice in the back of their head saying 'BUT RC WAS SCUM AND YOU TOWNREAD HIM LIKE THIS' and I'm always townread as town on Day 1 because I'm generally a towny player but it just builds and builds and people in their hearts feel the opportuniy cost of not lynching RC is so terrible because UGH I WAS SO SURE HE WAS TOWN and if I don't do anything about being mislynched it's just 1 mislynch and mislynches happen but that 1 glorious game where you lynch Scum!RC and it's all rainbows and light and town is celebrating all around like well job guys we did this and I feel like it becomes this stupid fantasy.

Me being impossible to townread hasn't hurt my scum play very much; I still win the vast majority of the time as scum. What it has done is make playing town feel like hell.

[Elsa and Anna]

I do not like playing how I do. I came back and resolved to do stuff differently and I got FUCKING HARDTUNNELED BY THE ENTIRE GAME INCLUDING FA TO THE POINT WHERE A FUCKING WEAK COP OUTED BECAUSE THEY WERE SO CERTAIN THAT I WAS SCUM THAT THEY NEEDED TO CHECK ME. I WAS FUCKING TOWN.

I play the way I do because I don't have an alternative. I am not going to stop punishing people for attempting to lynch me until people put a reasonable standard on lynching me.

[Elsa and Anna]

We could NL but I want to just lynch Chihiro and call it a day. I don't think FA will agree to lynching anywhere else and I don't want to do that without asking her.

[Elsa and Anna]

Sure, maybe. Like I said I don't think it's impossible that you're town. I just don't like how we 180d from hard town to autolynch and think that it's considerably more likely that you're scum.
The way I see it this game is out of my hands because FA is unwilling to lynch anyone besides you and I trust FA's judgement.

[Elsa and Anna]

If there's a 3 way that we're alive for I know who I want to lynch. Aside from that I am pretty much just trying to make sure the game is less unpleasant than it could be.

[Elsa and Anna]

And yeah I know you don't. It's not a political act to you or any of the other individuals who have FoSed my slot. It is a political act being FoSed in literally every game for nothing though.

[Elsa and Anna]

And yeah, you could say that I am talking to you like you're town. I don't see the point in doing anything different because I'm not going to change my vote.

[Elsa and Anna]

Well ordinarily I would want to try to get some discussion going and see if we can't work something out if you're town but I don't think FA is going to be swayed and I don't want to push her off of something she's so certain about. So this all just seems sort of peripheral atm. I'm confident in Peng scum enough that I'm pretty sure NLing will be on the table but both my head and your entire slot seem pretty resigned about this whole thing so I think it's just better to deal with it today. We're not scum I promise you; who would you say the remaining scum is?

[Elsa and Anna]

We were voting him. And yeah there's no way that SoD is scum from here on out and we don't think it's Mantis so that really only leaves you guys and L&R.

[Elsa and Anna]

I would not be at all surprised if L&R coached their scumbuddies to hammer and then hard bussed them the next day. Penguinos had some really weird interactions with the slot too.
But again I don't exactly townread your play and I think your repeated suggestion that this is going to flip town is forced so you can go OH I GUESS I WAS WRONG

[Elsa and Anna]

I can easily see L&R scum just sitting on their partner for the mega protracted bus and refusing to hammer town for towncred. I don't really see anyone else though.

[Elsa and Anna]

If it's actually something like Sword/L&R then I guess we'll just take it as a learning experience and we'll know how better to deal with each other's slots next game.

I really can't see a Peng townflip here.

[Elsa and Anna]

If it's actually something like Sword/L&R then I guess we'll just take it as a learning experience and we'll know how better to deal with each other's slots next game.

I really can't see a Peng townflip here.

[Elsa and Anna]

Well, I'm not Penguinos's partner. I also have done very little busing in the recent past because everyone scumreads me for it anyway.
You can go through all the what-ifs you want about what my slot would or would not have done but we're town and if you're town then someone else is the scum.

And I feel like L&R, besides you obviously, makes the most sense in that role. Especially considering they didn't post anything today until post hammer.

[Elsa and Anna]

There are no scumteams that make any sense without Penguinos being scum.

[Elsa and Anna]

I mean I guess it could be you and L&R but that requires you to be scum anyway
SoD / L&R just doesn't add up with their play to me.

Yes, I'm sure there are plenty of 2 person scumteams where RC is a glorious scumlord.

[Elsa and Anna]

I would like to point out that Sword of Damocles is scum in every single scumteam that you have theorized.

[Elsa and Anna]

Nice AtE.

I think that Peng is actually gonna flip town but I'll wait for a flip to post my thoughts.

[Elsa and Anna]

Can we have a lengthier deadline extension?

[Elsa and Anna]

Chi I really feel like you knew that the slot was flipping town and did a poor job of covering it up. How were you so sure that the guy was town because I *really* do not see it.

[Elsa and Anna]

Why was SoD supposed to have hammered Mantis?

[Elsa and Anna]

I sincerely don't see Mantis/L&R so I guess I'm fine with this 1v1.

Mantis, I could use your thoughts.

[Elsa and Anna]

I will be really pissed if this is L&R and SoD and they won just by not putting themselves out there at all.

[Elsa and Anna]

Actually either way I think it's one of you and the lurkfuck hydra.

[Elsa and Anna]

FA is up. we're dealing with this now.

[Elsa and Anna]

So Chihiro: you said that you thought that we were scum breaking up the townblock when we pushed on Mantis.

What was our motivation in doing so, with two lynches to go and no one scumreading us whatsoever at that point?

[Elsa and Anna]

@Jae why are you voting sword over us?

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

And if it flips town?
-Alter Ego

This is scum

See! You want my head on a platter no matter what happens!
The flip shouldn't even prove anything to you if you want me anyways.
-Alter Ego

This is so damn obvious scum ...

#Elsa >.>

[Elsa and Anna]

Ari doing a 180 on our slot is probably scum for the record.

Mantis is town for Creature not doing that.

If scumflip Pen potential partner is E&A.
If townflip then potential E&A/Sword? I don't even know at this point.

I still think E&A is scum which makes the fact that I feel this shitty even worse. If they're doing this as town it's a little more excusable, except for the part where they literally don't care to evaluate our slot or play the game, and FA even claims to be willing to gamethrow upon our townflip, same with RC with the "I'll just vote and not do anything else" thing.

Like, clearly I have been trying to read you both beyond your names. I came to the conclusion you were scum independent of your reputations and you're both throwing that around and making me feel like shit when it's not even what any of that was about.

--Jae

You were distancing from Peng wagon.

You first tried to attach my slot with Mantis and then before peng flip you tried to do that with peng

The rest of the post is pure crap ATE

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

Well if FA wants to throw the game that's her prerogative I guess. I'm just not going to sit back while she says it's my fault town loses for actually playing the game and treating you two like any other player in the game and actually trying to figure out your alignment.

I don't disagree that we should be the lynch if it's a scumflip ftr. I clocked out of the game a while back because I felt like shit and haven't been trying to read anyone in-depth since. I don't really want to be here to blow another lylo as well, which seems to be what I always do if the game hits it. I don't really care about your alignment anymore, I just want out. The remaining town can deal with trying to sort you after that. I just can't agree to that and lie down if it's a townflip since it'll end the game.

--Jae

Nice misrep

VOTE: Chihiro and Alter Ego

If we weren't already ...

..................

Why you didn't focus on our 1v1 before peng lynch happens, You hypocrite? Where did I say I will throw the game? I said I'm litterally 100% sure you will flip scum and I am dead serious in this read.

You were saying the same thing about us based on preflip accusations and some other blantly obvious misreps. You were trying as hard as possible to make us look antitown and attaked me for pressuring you because of game blitz deadline and after that your "E&A is confscum" changed to "I think they seem scummy" and then added some bunch of ATE "FA is game throwing!" and "They won't get lynched before us.". You are frustrated I'm sure

but this is a scum frustration

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

UNVOTE:

how much time do we have?

[Elsa and Anna]

Tomorrow if we are dead I think L&R is the last scum. If you're town Jae sorry and hopefully we both learned some things for next game.

[Elsa and Anna]

The one who unvoted was Elsa head

we have about 14 hours apparently

There is one scum in sword, chihiro lylo 1v1. I'm definitly leaning toward Jae hydra at this moment and I am going to vote you later today. I find it interesting that lewd hydra didn't even comment on the 1v1.

I am around to put down the L1 or hammer votes in next 12 hours. If you want to talk or explain why I'm wrong then do it soon.

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

Its mylo 1v1 but whetvever

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

actually this is not mylo with 5 players

Jae why did you vote sword when their hammer out of 1v1 didn't put the game in mylo?

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

I'm pretty sure chihiro hydra is town

they're not

have you been reading the game?

white knight them with a compelling case or die

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

VOTE: Sword of Damocles

[Elsa and Anna]

Sorry Jae.

[Elsa and Anna]

Sorry to everyone. I think our slot created a lot of unnecessary angst in this game.

[Elsa and Anna]

let's hammer chihiro too.

VOTE: Chihiro

[Elsa and Anna]

Not sorry at all

I would scumread you the exact same way if I was town.

GG

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

Hammer Chi dunn =[

[Elsa and Anna]

No. We were with Mantis lol. So much for that bus.

[Elsa and Anna]

Is that Jae or Alisae btw?

[Elsa and Anna]

Your arguments aagainst my slot were pure shit and you should be ashamed for making them as town. You practically lined up lynches and attacked me for blitz deadline

me being dismotovated for blitz was not ATE. what you did for attacking it was one

asking a 1v1 on us was lame so I attacked back with it.

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

FA c'mon now's not the time :T

[Elsa and Anna]

Next time think twice before proposing it to me

RC never sign me up for a blitz please ...!

[Elsa and Anna]

I am sorry I legit did not realize it was a blitz.

I did not want to join a blitz either, I just saw ooh hydra game let's hydra for it.

[Elsa and Anna]

FA c'mon now's not the time :T

I'm really angry and mentally under pressure. this game happened in a very bad time as I just left an offsite shit with blitz deadlines as well after a redicolous kingmaker scenario.

Didn't feel a shred of happiness for this win and definitly wouldn't feel angry at all if it was a loose, I'm just kindda feel offended but I know no one offended me at all which makes me feel a deep deep not understanadable pain atm >.>

You should have let me stay demotivated and lurking here

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

Not sorry at all

I would scumread you the exact same way if I was town.

GG

#Elsa

You were an actual horrible person and made me feel like a literal piece of shit even though I still thought you were mafia.

I'm not playing with you ever again. That was disgusting.

- Jae.

Thats right

I'm disgusting

any thing else?

[Elsa and Anna]

I went along with it cuz I saw your AtE and I was like "nah, that can't be coming from town!FA"

I didn't do any ATE at all

what I did was percisly logical push back. Didn't do anything emotional in this game.

[Elsa and Anna]

Thank you for modding Kittymo, sorry if our antics made the game less fun for people.

The truth behind the Mantis wagon is that I wanted to lynch GBT last game but it was just impossible because I felt like shit pushing on her then I wanted to lynch her this game but then there was that one post where I started feeling terrible about it again and she probably wasn't gonna get lynched anyway so *shrug*
I guess the lesson we learned from this game is that I should not try to lynch GBT anymore as scum.

Sorry if we ruined your last game GNT. I really hope that this isn't your last game and you play this game some more when your RL situation is better.
Maybe someday I won't be scum in one of your games

Jae you played well. We definitely overreached on the Mantis wagon and though I agree with FA that your approach to our slot was poorly done you had good instincts about us being scum. Maybe someday you'll actually get to carry through with that and lynch us.

FA PLEASE JUST STOP.

[Elsa and Anna]

I mean yeah what else?

come on

insult me more. you can use private messaging as well

That might make me feel better about myself

[Elsa and Anna]

No, that's all. I never want to speak to you again.

RC, thank you for being a decent person.

Please I want to hear you inuslting me

I won't report it

Why wasn't I decent person?

You asked for a 1v1 with me after doing some shitty scummy stuff and I gave it to you. You asked for this.

I know I'm not a decent person at all. please inform me why

[Elsa and Anna]

FA you traumatized Jae.
Poor Jae...

I still like you tho if that means anything.
-Alter Ego

pedit: we can hydra slip now?

Oh sure

like I care?

I don't care about anyone else's feelings.

I'm a psycopath.

is that bad?

[Elsa and Anna]

like you pushed me and I made a case why thats push was scummy and that ended in people pushing you and gave us towncreds.

You said you want 1v1 I gave it to you.

Now I'm not a decent person?

I'm not a decent person for playing toward my wincondition without doing anything Not game related in game and You are a deent one for proposing a 1v1?

Like what is your point

[Elsa and Anna]

You made my past day horrible

I just realized again how emotionless I am when its about to social communication and your accusing me of ATE? like get the fuck out Jae

I'm waiting for a pm full of inuslts in my pm box of my main. You are not blacklisted by me so I will join a game even if you are in it before me. I don't respect your wish for not being with me. You are free to convince me that I should hate you as well which is hard given how much I hate myself or your going to suffer.

good day