Star Wars Rogue One [GAME OVER]

[Infinity 324]

That's really the only issue I have with your play: that you're taking one read, not considering it could be wrong, and basing everything on that. I really want to help you get in this game, but your tunnel seems to be getting in the way.

[Heartless]

I want to be able to talk to you and have some hope you will listen. If you view that as an ego trip, I will sub out.

note that i said that i wasn't ego tripping specifically because that's exactly what you accused me of doing

The very sentence structure in the game you linked was short bursts with little information. The zefiend here is long winded and detailed.

"sentence structure" doesn't reveal that much about alignment to me. i would also challenge your characterization of zefiend's posting as "detailed." long winded, yes. but detailed, no. in fact, the details are very, very, very much wanting and when PRESSED for details all he seems to be able to do is throw quote walls at me Post 2361 and Post 2612

the CLOSEST he comes to what I would consider being "detailed" is actually the sircakez post Post 2615 which is the only redemptive part of an otherwise flat analysis

So, yeah I have a bit of frustration. So either help me, or tell me to get out before I go insane with Nero's toxic crap and talking to a town with closed ears.

my ears are still open. they just haven't heard anything convincing.

even a semi-plausible explanation of how the mastin read came to be would probably shut me up but it seems that a lot more words are being committed to telling me how awful i'm being than actually explaining a read.

[Nero Cain]

I am so sick and tired of you pretending like you are better than you really are. I'm not sure if its all just an internet act, selective memory or what. I mean yeah, in X-men you got ran up and policy lynched. Yes it really was a PL, even AP, who was hard town reading you, wanted you dead. TBF, you

DID

have a (as in one) correct scum read but you were just so wrong about everything else. I'm sure there was a little "look at how many posts she has...NO MORE" but I think it was mainly you were just so wrong about everything.

We've already been over my "tunneling" you every game and I think its pretty clear that I'm not. Like in two of those games I was scum so I was obviously fake scum reading you, i was town reading you in two and misread you in one. That really doesn't sound like tunneling. What it does sound like, or atleast similar to, is how in Smackdown you were whining about me whining about you...when I wasn't. Ditto the thing about me, Cakez and Infinity keeping you from talking to ppl or whatever.

Maybe I'm giving you too much credit here but I don't see someone with three years of experience basicly act like they are surprised that Kling was getting ran up after hammering without a claim. You are prob scum here but its going to take Infinity and Heartless to lynch a bunch of other players before the lynch you.

[Infinity 324]

Rethinking some things...

UNVOTE: piper for rogue leader

Getting paranoid that he could be scum and pine joining the crew n1 basically guarantees no scum out of that group. Or at least it's very likely. Piper is still probably town but better to be safe.

Getting this odd feeling that zefiend is town, the ladt time I had that feeling about someone that I scumread strongly they flipped town. But I really don't know who else I'd vote and I want to see how he reacts to the wagon.

I'll ISO cakez sometime soon.

I'm just getting more and more null/lean reads as this game goes on which isn't good. I realized I can't be sure on my pere read or my AJ read either

Ughhh

[Infinity 324]

Zefiend is at L-2

[Drunken Piper]

huh, putting the below together and it comes to mind,
I dont have a lot in my town column, am I unkind?

Someone tell me why I am wrong,
I even wont make you do it in a song.

TOWN-
Heartless
BBmolla
NULL-Nero Cain, TheWayItEnds, SirCakez, Infinity 324
ɀefiend, mastina
Aj the Epic, PeregrineV
Titus
SCUM-

Mod: you have BBmolla listed twice in the alive "spoiler" on page 1.

Rethinking some things...

UNVOTE: piper for rogue leader

yeah, i figured posting this would hurt my chances.
of getting the leader position and all the advances.

Now I have been the only one who actually has caught scum.
so looking forward to why and who would be better up in this slum.

[Drunken Piper]

Getting paranoid that he could be scum and pine joining the crew n1 basically guarantees no scum out of that group. Or at least it's very likely. Piper is still probably town but better to be safe.

so as scum, I chose to throw a buddy who had AT LEAST one more,
neutralizing shot day 2, out the door?

you were fine, when you thought you were higher.
in my list of reads, what else has transpired?

(....DP sniffs the air...."yep" he thinks to himself, "bullshit is here")

[Drunken Piper]

(DP updates his reads)

Rethinking some things...
Getting paranoid that he could be scum and pine joining the crew n1 basically guarantees no scum out of that group. Or at least it's very likely. Piper is still probably town but better to be safe.

TAKES ACTION

Getting this odd feeling that zefiend is town, the ladt time I had that feeling about someone that I scumread strongly they flipped town. But I really don't know who else I'd vote and I want to see how he reacts to the wagon.

TAKES NO ACTION WHILE COVERING A TOWN FLIP

TOWN-
Heartless
BBmolla
NULL-Nero Cain, TheWayItEnds, SirCakez,
Infinity 324
ɀefiend, mastina
Aj the Epic, PeregrineV
Titus
SCUM-

[Drunken Piper]

TOWN-
Heartless
BBmolla
NULL-Nero Cain, TheWayItEnds, SirCakez,
Infinity 324
ɀefiend, mastina
Aj the Epic, PeregrineV
Titus
SCUM-

EDIT:

TOWN-
Heartless
BBmolla
Nero Cain
NULL- TheWayItEnds, SirCakez,
Infinity 324, mastina
ɀefiend, PeregrineV
Aj the Epic,
Titus
SCUM

[Infinity 324]

Getting paranoid that he could be scum and pine joining the crew n1 basically guarantees no scum out of that group. Or at least it's very likely. Piper is still probably town but better to be safe.

so as scum, I chose to throw a buddy who had AT LEAST one more,
neutralizing shot day 2, out the door?

you were fine, when you thought you were higher.
in my list of reads, what else has transpired?

(....DP sniffs the air...."yep" he thinks to himself, "bullshit is here")

It's more likely than heartless being scum and pine joining the crew anyway because ???

[Infinity 324]

I'm not saying I'm scumreading you, I'm saying I'm more confident heartless is town.

and there's still no one I scumread more than zefiend

So I really don't see the issue there

[Drunken Piper]

VOTE: piper for rogue leader

you were fine, when you thought you were higher.
in my list of reads,

what else has transpired

?

[Infinity 324]

I considered the possibility of you being scum

[Infinity 324]

Rethinking some things...

[Titus]

@DP, Great, you're spam saying I am scum and not contributing. Why?

@Heartless, Personality is one of the few tells I find viable in meta. Is it flawless? No. Yet, given I have been right and you have been wrong, I should objectively be the person being engaged. Yet, that's not happening. It happens in other games.

Now, onto your issue. Zefiend doesn't word vomit as scum from what I have seen. He just lurks away. That's using your definition of just quotewalling back. What I see when zefiend replies like that is someone trying to reach out. Scum zefiend doesn't reach people. Quote walls supporting points are details. They are not the details you want. If quote walls bother you, tell him to use post tags. If I am right, you should see details and ignore the quotes getting in the way. If I am wrong and he struggles to put two coherent thoughts together, we'll lynch him.

Nero, your first quote says enough. You are sick of me. You latch onto one interpretation difference and you tunnel it forever. You do it as town, so you have to do it as scum. Either way, it makes the game impossible. So, you go in my scum pool and if I get a vig, I will shoot you. You block town from recognizing each other.

[Titus]

I considered the possibility of you being scum

Stop it. Stop spamming with nonsense that waffles.

DP is silenced town thanks to your bullshit.

[Infinity 324]

Titus, I'm willing to talk to you if you're willing to accept you might be wrong on me.

If you're not willing to do this then sorry, but you can't complain about people being unwilling to talk to you.

[Aj The Epic]

Now, onto your issue. Zefiend doesn't word vomit as scum from what I have seen.

He just lurks away.

That's using your definition of just quotewalling back. What I see when zefiend replies like that is someone trying to reach out.

Scum zefiend doesn't reach people.

Quote walls supporting points are details. They are not the details you want. If quote walls bother you, tell him to use post tags. If I am right, you should see details and ignore the quotes getting in the way. If I am wrong and he struggles to put two coherent thoughts together, we'll lynch him.

So you're saying he's scum here, right?

Like honestly I see cakez and zefiend both as possible scum but tbh without finishing ONE LYNCH we're not going to see which one was the town wagon and which was counterwagoning scum.

[Heartless]

If I am right, you should see details and ignore the quotes getting in the way. If I am wrong and he struggles to put two coherent thoughts together, we'll lynch him.

we're on the same page

[Firebringer]

PeregrineV has been prodded.

[PeregrineV]

PeregrineV has been prodded.

Sorry thought this was in night.

I'm here.

[PeregrineV]

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Jailkeeper

(DP reads this following..."A Jailkeeper that

simultaneously blocks and protects their target

is considered Normal on mafiascum.net, provided that any mutual blocking scenarios are planned for during review. Any role that receives results (such as Tracker or Watcher)

but is blocked

should receive a "no result" message, rather than told their target didn't go anywhere or nobody visited their target. A Jailkeeper cannot stop a Strongman from committing a kill.")

You were not blocked, Cake was blocked.

I'm not sure

if people

are really this unsure of roles and how they work, or are intentionally misrepresenting them on purpose....

I'm feeling like it's the latter.

so are you saying I scum?
that leaves me sad and numb.

No, if I did, I wouldn't be voting you Rogue Leader.

[PeregrineV]

I thought you said you thought piper was being intentionally obtuse wrt setup, so how do you townread him? What do you think of him unvoting aj if that's the case?

I don't know if it was intentional. By the end of the posting chain, I don't think so.

I think he should unvote AJ, I find AJ to be town.

More interested in why Titus voted AJ based on the conversation.

[PeregrineV]

huh, putting the below together and it comes to mind,
I dont have a lot in my town column, am I unkind?

Someone tell me why I am wrong,
I even wont make you do it in a song.

TOWN-
Heartless
BBmolla
NULL-Nero Cain, TheWayItEnds, SirCakez, Infinity 324
ɀefiend, mastina
Aj the Epic, PeregrineV
Titus
SCUM-

Mod: you have BBmolla listed twice in the alive "spoiler" on page 1.

Talk about your null and why the people on it are null.

And why is Titus scum in your eyes?

[PeregrineV]

Getting paranoid that he could be scum and pine joining the crew n1 basically guarantees no scum out of that group. Or at least it's very likely. Piper is still probably town but better to be safe.

so as scum, I chose to throw a buddy who had AT LEAST one more,
neutralizing shot day 2, out the door?

you were fine, when you thought you were higher.
in my list of reads, what else has transpired?

(....DP sniffs the air...."yep" he thinks to himself, "bullshit is here")

@infinity

- that was some pretty bad backtracking....