Mini 1852 - Werewolves and Jester win!

[Hiraki]

Hi everyone - first game in quite awhile so I hope I won't be too rusty.

I will admit that I am still very picky about RVC phases and will continue to do so.

VOTE: Vonflare this usually goes well

Not a fan of this. This is useless.

Stranger has a 90% chance of having 20% chance of flipping scum.
Worth a quick lynch?

I don't care how sarcastic this is. It's not helpful. It's more distracting than pushing the mod on Page 1.

VOTE: PUPPER
Where he at though?

He has double posts to you, what do you mean?

pretty sure he hasnt posted yet unless I have gotten dumber than i was before

The game's barely started and he's heading into prod range.

Makes him a decent candidate for a policy lynch.

Good thinking. Not very suitable actions for the thoughts though.

UPPER looks like a game mechanic playerslot to me. The player isn't on the sign-up list and there is one more player thanone would expect in a mini. Also the account only has one post in the test post thread

Lynching it might not be the worst idea just to figure out what it is, but at the same time I'd rather lynch scum.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Klingoncelt

Bringing up a pl on a 'lurker' this early is lame. I mean, literally no one ever policy lynches in the wee pages of D1, but it's lame even for a policy lynch suggestion.

This makes no sense to me. Why would you vote Klingoncelt?

Eh he suggests a policy lynch but doesn't vote for it either. There some inconsistent logic in there.

I find something

very

odd that you're going after him of all people for this stuff. I understand what you're saying but if he wanted to PL him, wouldn't he vote? Scum are just as smart as you.

Kling is fine with me, I just want the day to end really early.

Does this have anything to do with your role or are you being serious?

Anyway, at least I got a bit of discussion started, if this game goes any slower it'll start moving backwards.

Really not feeling this response. That's all you had to say to a somewhat serious vote? I thought you wanted to continue discussion?

Instead of commentingon needing to catch up and how there isn't much to catch up on and excuses. How about just catch up and post something significant and until then don't clutter the thread, there are wayyyy too many posts happening as it is, it's hard to keep up.

I'm caught up. Don't worry about me, sweetheart.

Yet I have literally 5+ posts quoted already and this is all you're willing to share?

Pupper is cute.

That being said, I'm not feeling anymore comfortable with these responses.
While you're right that getting discussion started is a good thing, I don't necessarily see that as the intention behind your post that I took issue with. And even if that was the intention, you've done little to continue on this discussion.

High-5 buddy. You've risen far from the bottom.

Jaack... You scum?

I love one-liners that show you are very eagerly staying on slidelines so much.

Okay, so who's next for the questioning?

My vote is going on you if this continues.

Page 5 is pretty garbage on all sides except that McMemmo is 99% town.

Follow me Pupper and you will sleep tight.

Vote: Vedith

I would like more content from the following:
AlpacaAlpaca
Drone
Gamma Emerald (currently sitting at spot no. 2 for vote)
mhsmith0
Pupper
SnarkySnowman
StrangerCoug

[Hiraki]

can you post anything relevant?

[Hiraki]

can you post any good opinions?

[Hiraki]

I do find it very concerning that your signature leads to a page on "How to Not Mess Up as Town" and one of the rules is to share your thoughts on the game. Why did I have to call you out on it to do so?

[Hiraki]

2) Share your thoughts on how the game is going.

i'm really not asking that much and you've given maybe 3 sentences on 6 (really 5 tho) pages of content

not to mention one your scum reads is on someone that doesn't talk and is a very coasty vote at any rate and it's very easy for you to come back and say at L-2 that you scumread him earlier

and the dreal scumread is very lazy too

half of the people are complaining about a lack of content in this game and i can easily tell you why there's a lack of content

[Hiraki]

unvote, vote: gamma

one of you will die today

[Hiraki]

yeah i'm totally scumslipping right now buddy - i'm sure i don't have history of using the word die in replacement of lynch

let's go pupper, we've got work to do

[Hiraki]

yeah i'm totally scumslipping right now buddy - i'm sure i don't have history of using the word die in replacement of lynch

let's go pupper, we've got work to do

Nice job misrepping my vote buddy.
I understood you meant lynch and we're hardly into the day so your proposition is a false dichotomy.

How can I misrep your vote if your vote is literally two words without an explanation?

Haha! I fell right into your trap! You got me!

As I said before, I didn't say you needed to post as much as me, it's just that I don't agree with what you posted and I think it's very coasty with no real substance. The fact that the only two scumreads you have are on two players that are either not playing 100% seriously at the moment (or for the case of Pupper, perhaps never will be serious) is very concerning to me.

And then your next post about the game is a post that comes

directly

after confirmation to say that Vedith said something bad? Why would you just randomly talk about something that obscure? It's out of nowhere and quite frankly looks like you were looking for something to talk about since I asked for your thoughts. Not to mention, there's actually nothing bad with that post because it's clearly not serious. It's before the game even started.

At this point, I would suspect that you're just not being serious and then just say that right now. But for the fact that you brought up a confirmation post and called it scummy says that there's definitely something that I can't stay away from at this point.

[Hiraki]

i'm not saying that i love doggie but I would rather go after scumreads then nullreads

[Hiraki]

what do you think about BTD6? Nos?

must be out of the game for awhile - explain?

[Hiraki]

mcmenno - town
drone - null

you?

[Hiraki]

unvote, vote: gamma

one of you will die today

I'm not sure if you have the power to make that call.

trust me, i do (this is not a soft claim just egotistical arrogance)

mcmenno - town
drone - null

you?

Explain why McScumbag is town.

no reason at all to think he's scum first off

i feel his reactions give him enough credit to be town but i can understand why people think he's scum - not a hard 100% lean but it's good enough to say yes

I'm not sure what to make of gamma.

noted

[Hiraki]

post 49 is not an RVS vote

[Hiraki]

VOTE: PUPPER
Where he at though?

He has double posts to you, what do you mean?

pretty sure he hasnt posted yet unless I have gotten dumber than i was before

The game's barely started and he's heading into prod range.

Makes him a decent candidate for a policy lynch.

this post

And explain why people think he is scummy.

because they literally read posts in /iso/lation

[Hiraki]

How do you know that McMeno was making a serious vote?

because he changed his vote and then referenced said vote

If he said "i don't like your face" or something like that, then sure I would agree with you - but it is clearly serious.

People think McMeno is scum because of his Iso? What in particular?

clearly referencing that you have solely been looking at McMenno without looking at the context of the game. It's page 8. That

might

work on a voting analysis...on page 30.

I tire of this. You're not understanding what I'm saying and I think I understand what you're saying but it's just wrong. If you're going to vote me to help your scumbud, feel free to do so now

[Hiraki]

I want to see Klingoncelt respond to Jaack before I put my vote back down.

see that

you were right

he was referring to stranger's post

ABOUT KLINGONCELT

IT'S ALMOST LIKE MCMENNO SAID:

"StrangerCoug, waiting is not an option. Here is my vote for Klingon based on the preceeding facts."

This is

NOT

hard to piece together.

the fact that in post-edit hindsight that you talk about this post and just completely ignore the part where StrangerCoug clearly talks about Klingoncelt is concerning in more than one way

That means that his reaction HAS to be in his ISO, correct? I quoted all 4 posts, and questioned which reaction you thought was town, and you give a bullshit answer that I can't look through his ISO to find it?

1) he voted someone that looked scummy
2) he did it making sure that everyone saw him

this is a good reaction to me - if it's not to you, then i really don't care. don't call what I said bullshit though

And because I called you out on this, me and Gamma are now scum buds? And I am trying to save his lynch?

just because half of the game hasn't responded doesn't mean I don't know what will happen, i have meme magic too - there is literally no way I will let Gamma squeeze out of this. strangercoug is on the right side, why can't you just be on the right side?

here's the best question of the entire day that I didn't think to ask until you decided to make me ask it:

what is your opinion on gamma?

[Hiraki]

Why is Vedith concerned about being read as scum with me?

you know why

[Hiraki]

and how does that make it obviously a posting restriction?

do you see the title of the name

pupper is ignorable and quite honestly anyone with investigative powers should just investigate him so we can get rid of him tomorrow

Gamma or Vedeith today plz

Anyway, at least I got a bit of discussion started, if this game goes any slower it'll start moving backwards.

Really not feeling this response. That's all you had to say to a somewhat serious vote? I thought you wanted to continue discussion?

I'm not taking that vote seriously. It looks like busywork to me.

understandable still yucky

The question of McMenno's vote looks more like an honest misunderstanding than anything else.

ok so then can we lynch gamma today and then when that happens and he flips scum, we'll hash vedeith tomorrow? i don't think you have much support on your klingon vote atm

[Hiraki]

strangercoug - what do you think about vedith?

[Hiraki]

strangercoug - what do you think about vedith?

EWBOP - and drealmerz, with an emphasis on the last post

[Hiraki]

>page 10
>weird mini
>no lynch yet?
>??? kc lynch when ???

i defended you pretty hard so if you could just not make me look like a total idiot, that'd be great

[Hiraki]

kk so you're going to apply pressure to a lurker right now

/right now/

[Hiraki]

he's not wrong buddy

[Hiraki]

what about gamma

[Hiraki]

so you are in opposition of this wagon we have on him rn

[Hiraki]

that's v sad, could you maybe reconsider because you've given yourself no one to wagon on atm

(tbh, i could compromise on dreal but don't tell anyone)

[Hiraki]

do you know that feeling where you feel really excited for something and then you get even queezier and reliaze that compromising doesn't work to your values or something like that

having that with the above

[Hiraki]

no this is entirely worse

i can't switch i lied

[Hiraki]

Kuroi's reasons on dreal are REALLY bullshit. It's a scumread scum would make. The reasons listed feel more like towntells to me.
VOTE: KuroiXHF

how is this day not finished with your scumflip yet tho

kk so you're going to apply pressure to a lurker right now

/right now/

wtf?

I didn't know there was a schedule, when did this become a thing?

no but like can we do this on day 2 or 3????

call it a weak defense but there's better active targets atm

[Hiraki]

im sure asking pupper a question the fifth time will work - he will definitely write a wall about the game and not post any gifs

this is why he is ignorable and should be shot by any town PRs

scum won't shoot that doggie

[Hiraki]

see - this is why drealmerz, even if he might be scum, doesn't deserve death today

[Hiraki]

ill be honest - mcmenno has jumped up my list a little bit but for the fact that gamma is still alive means that i can't go for mcmenno atm

feel free to call me a lyncher, im just catching scum bros

[Hiraki]

ill be honest - mcmenno has jumped up my list a little bit but for the fact that gamma is still alive means that i can't go for mcmenno atm

feel free to call me a lyncher, im just catching scum bros

Take your head out of your arse.

you have not convinced one person with your arguments but I have done so

am I really the one with my head in my ass?

[Hiraki]

i've looked at every player but if you continue to insult me, i'm honestly ready to leave

you're the ONLY one accusing me of this and you just happen to be a scumread of mine

[Hiraki]

i just wrote out a long post and then had to somehow log-in and I have no intention of writing it again

our differences are literally irreconcilable at this point and I hate to be that guy but I am on the edge of leaving because I don't want to play with Vedith for being an absolute prick

The following, according to Vedith, are not insults and somehow promote good discussion to the game:

You are playing so badly

Yes, you really are.

in reference to my take your head out of your arse response

ill be honest - mcmenno has jumped up my list a little bit but for the fact that gamma is still alive means that i can't go for mcmenno atm

feel free to call me a lyncher, im just catching scum bros

Take your head out of your arse.

see - this is why drealmerz, even if he might be scum, doesn't deserve death today

What a shot post.

It's quite honestly unacceptable 10-year old behavior that I'm not going to deal with.

Here's stuff that I'm OK with:

Sadly I agree that Hiraki is just VI and not scum.

literally ISO 28-30 is a civil discussion between disagreements

There's nothing wrong with stating your opinion - there's something wrong with making posts that have no point and are clearly trying to just get the other person agitated.

Off that:

So people that you scum read can't have a negative comment against you? Are you even listening to yourself?

I am not scumreading everyone that I disagree with.

[Hiraki]

I'm literally dealing with the incarnation of Donald Trump's persona on Twitter.

Mod: Sorry, I really

really

hate to do this but I have no will to play with this prick. If you don't think his actions are enough for at least a warning, please replace me.

For everyone else in the game, if you agree with me in some sense about his behavior - not even regarding lynching Vedith - please say something.

To Vedith, I hope you change for your own sake.

[Hiraki]

I understand that - perhaps you could understand that you can only take so much before you just have to let a little out.

I apologize to Vedith for those comments. They were not appropriate.

[Hiraki]

I will continue for the moment but my tolerance for bullshit is very low.

[Hiraki]

Coug is OK. He called you weak town at first and then switched onto you with proper reasoning - regardless of whether you agree with the reasons.

McMenno, I've discussed at larger lengths. I've consistently called him town and only called that read into doubt with the 368 vote on Gamma. This will come into more substance if Gamma flips town. I'd like to believe, based on the quality of McMenno's other posts, that he does read the game but does not actively comment. I would like to see more active content mostly for alignment reasons rather than scumhunting reasons.

Memeno wouldn't vote Gamma there if a scum team, but Coug trying to distance themselves to McMeno...

This is too theoretical for Day 1 with no flips.

[Hiraki]

Coug is OK. He called you weak town at first and then switched onto you with proper reasoning - regardless of whether you agree with the reasons.

McMenno, I've discussed at larger lengths. I've consistently called him town and only called that read into doubt with the 368 vote on Gamma. This will come into more substance if Gamma flips town. I'd like to believe, based on the quality of McMenno's other posts, that he does read the game but does not actively comment. I would like to see more active content mostly for alignment reasons rather than scumhunting reasons.

Memeno wouldn't vote Gamma there if a scum team, but Coug trying to distance themselves to McMeno...

This is too theoretical for Day 1 with no flips.

sorry - coug called you town and is voting gamma so that part is wrong. not that it makes a difference - i have no qualms with coug's play atm.

[Hiraki]

im very curious about pupper tbh - im kind of still on my vote streak so lemme try this

Pupper: Vote Aristophanes

and ill give you a treat

[Hiraki]

Hiraki, I think you were close to finding scum but then slipped>?

??

i was v disappointed in you pupper, to the point where your first actual post in the game looks like complete bullshit

not sure if anyone noticed but Drone included my name

twice

the first gif is a happy dog (i got happy)

the second gif is a scared dog

pupper, why is there disparity?

[Hiraki]

Hiraki, I think you were close to finding scum but then slipped>?

??

i

am

v disappointed in you pupper, to the point where your first actual post in the game

is

complete bullshit

not sure if anyone noticed but Drone included my name

twice

the first gif is a happy dog (i got happy)

the second gif is a scared dog

pupper, why is there disparity?

EWBOP: edits are in bold - just wanted to fix grammar

[Hiraki]

Very well, then.

the no sounded like more sarcasm to me so just so we can get this straight

mcmenno - in all seriousness - was that no sarcastic?

It's not scared, it's confused as to why it's getting asked about you twice.

i guess that makes sense

disappointed you didn't explain the point directed toward you tho

You have all but admitted that you do not want town to make an educated lynch today, and you know that that increases our chances of a mislynch. The day will take as many pages as it needs and we do not need scum rushing us along when we have enough time to decide.

but doesn't it just tick you the wrong way that this is your reason for voting someone today???

[Hiraki]

no, though I suppose it's too late now

Unvote, Vote: McMenno

That's L-2

im still v unsure on what you're saying dreal

[Hiraki]

no but his recent posting is much worse than early postings

[Hiraki]

and dw - i know that I literally called him town like 300 posts ago so I'm explaining - figured I should put that out there since this will take awhile to explain everything

[Hiraki]

My post got eaten but I sort of saved it but I also don't want to write everything again -

I thought that McMenno was town because of his posting style. Kurio - as I read - noted this as apathy, we kind of thought the same way. I went a step further thinking that McMenno was not posting or posting less because he had some card up his sleeve. This card could be a PR or just not a good D1 player - which is fine. Posting less is OK as long as you don't post anything that's blatantly eye-raising.

Here are some examples:

waiting is for scrubs

VOTE: klingoncelt

>page 10
>weird mini
>no lynch yet?
>??? kc lynch when ???

407 is where he kind of throws it all overboard for two reasons.

Personally, I have no trouble with this. I don't believe a lyncher win means town loses.
And that's if you're a lyncher.

You're okay if he's the lyncher?
No Kuroi... Do something worth while.

I have the second most posts this game. I've spent a lot of time in this game.
I feel like I've been doing something worth while.
You just disagree with me. I'm more worried about catching scum than worried if a win condition that has nothing to do with me and doesn't affect me is fulfilled or not.
And again, I don't know he's a lyncher.

your posts aren't very substantial though

I see. I know IGMEOY at FOS (Finger of Suspicion).

I use FoS as well for when I feel it's too strong to warrant an IGMEOY.

must follow the pupper

VOTE: gamma

This reeks of a bus of Gamma. Welcome to my #2 suspect slot.

Also, answer my question in #231.

I want to end the day earlier so the twon doesn't get to use such useless tools as "scumhunting" and "analysis"

This post reeked for two reasons.

1) Pot calling the kettle black. (much like the second reason, i felt that this was originally on purpose)
2) The second statement is weird after explanation (although that sort of means that the second reason took awhile to formulate because I thought this was a joke, much like I thought about McMenno's play and that there was something behind it)

Now that it's come out that there is complete seriousness. Either McMenno will never take the game seriously or there is no card up his sleeve after all. Neither is very important to me now though.

[Hiraki]

ARE YOU KIDDING ME

[Hiraki]

This is what I get based on what we know about decoding the message, and I think it's right:

Hello everyone, this is Hiraki reporting live from the town. Today, although the town tried to lynch the Survivor McMenno, KurioXHF died in his replacement. We do not know if this was on purpose. However, what is certain, is that Kurio's sacrifice will not be in vain. Tomorrow, I will lead you all to victory by destroying scum. There is no possible way that the scum will prevail. This message should make you quake in fear in your tiny little scumboots. When there's no kill tomorrow, know that I stopped it. If there is one... well... darn.... you cannot stop me and I will win pupper, plz bark once if you are town or twice if you are scum 1086

Hiraki, can you confirm the authenticity of this?

yeah haven't really read but that's why i was mad

i was never told that my bullshit powers would come out that way

i will just leave it there and not comment on it for now

Vote: Drealmerz

[Hiraki]

Hiraki, you or McNugget needs lynching today.
I know that McNuggest is 3rd party, and I have high reason to believe that you are scum.

Wouldn't that be lovely if you got your way? I'd rather that not happen though. Perhaps we could get along?

What does it say about you Hiraki?

I wrote it - it sends a message to the right people. If you're very concerned about it, then you should vote me and ruin everything - otherwise you shouldn't.

[Hiraki]

I think you're the best candidate atm based on D1 plays

[Hiraki]

Actually you should comment on it.

You might as well, it put you front & center.

i think ill stick to my guns

[Hiraki]

i didn't do that - i thought you did it

maybe you shouldn't assume things so quickly, someone else did this to us

[Hiraki]

Vote: Vedith

i trust him

[Hiraki]

i mean sorry i'm stupid

Unvote, Vote: McMenno

[Hiraki]

Hiraki did u have anything to do with the Kuroi thing

no, unfortunately



hope you get better klingon

[Hiraki]

if yall haven't noticed, im not voting vedith because (redacted)

mcmenno is the way to go today, kill me or vedith scum

its your best shot, otherwise you're done tomorrow

[Hiraki]

I checked Hiraki and it said Cult...
So... VOTE: McMeno

do i need to kill myself to win the game? you have to be paranoid or something

Also @Hiraki - I think dead did that btw.

wouldn't it connect anyway? like i'm telling you - if i'm cult, I have no reason to lie since I can't win at this point and i'd rather help town (i swear but again, i'm not cult)

Vote: Jaack

i like drone's post more sorry

mod: your OP has strangercoug's flip outside of the dead pile, pretty sure it's just a mistake

[Hiraki]

Why aren't we lynching Hiraki?

lol

my message is just me getting mad at the bodyguard stuff, i have no reason nor want to decode it

[Hiraki]

i think mcmenno is some sort of bastard trick, i don't want another "day-bodyguard" to die again

Unvote, Vote: Gamma

[Hiraki]

would rather you have done that --

oh no kill kk thanks vedith

plz stop voting vedith, says me - the one with the eye in the sky

jaack or mcmenno tbh fam

[Hiraki]

wait why did u change your profile pic to Vedith's, that gave me a confuse

you have no idea how much this scared me

McMenno can't be the lynch choice today.


In post 410, Stranger Coug Townreads Hiraki, Drealmerz, and Vedith.

In post 595 Vedith says that Hiraki did something to him during the Night.

What was it that he did, Vedith?

In post 631 Vedith says : "I checked Hiraki and it said Cult... So... VOTE: McMeno

Why vote McMenno instead of Hiraki?



VOTE: Hiraki

do you really think that me and vedith are like master maifosos and we can just whim things to happen? there are things happening backstage that cannot be revealed just yet

as to your second question, i am assured that vedith realized that he is a paranoid cop/cult cop/whatever (whatever variety picks up the wrong faction on the right people and the right faction on the wrong people)

it really should say a lot that vedith and I have gotten along

[Hiraki]

anyone else have a feeling mcmenno is just trying to hop to stay alive and might not actually have any more bodyguards?

[Hiraki]

Hello everyone, this is Hiraki reporting live from the town. Today, although the town tried to lynch the Survivor McMenno, KurioXHF died in his replacement. We do not know if this was on purpose. However, what is certain, is that Kurio's sacrifice will not be in vain. Tomorrow, I will lead you all to victory by destroying scum. There is no possible way that the scum will prevail. This message should make you quake in fear in your tiny little scumboots. When there's no kill tomorrow, know that I stopped it. If there is one... well... darn.... you cannot stop me and I will win pupper, plz bark once if you are town or twice if you are scum 1086

Also, Hiraki, this was exactly what you sent/reported to the Mod, correct?

100%

[Hiraki]

hidden scum-mason is possible

that would JUST BE SCUM COME ON DUDE

[Hiraki]

hidden scum-mason is possible

that would JUST BE SCUM COME ON DUDE

wow you're dense
the scum part would be hidden

kk

[Hiraki]

Eh since it looks like we're just gonna role the dice with Vedith and me tomorrow, drealmer is probably the next best option.

He seems overly willing to cast doubt on literally everything except for PUPPER growling at Gamma, which is not exactly overwhelming evidence.

VOTE: dreamerz7

why are you not confident to do Vedith today? don't you literally have a cult/scum/im not checking result on him?????????????????????????????????????

[Hiraki]

i would really really really rather gamma or yourself

can you give me something better to chew on than the case being "dreal is being weird"?

[Hiraki]

Vote: Gamma

This is simple

[Hiraki]

let me listen to the person that I think is scum/cult and the other one that I also think is scum/cult

perfect ideas

[Hiraki]

vedith had a point btw

not a strong one but a point

[Hiraki]

town masons - it's nothing i'm buying into, just something to look at

i'm 99% sure that vedith is not lying

[Hiraki]

does this mean you've won mcmenno or were you lying the entire time

[Hiraki]

meant moreso for the purposes of his role

[Hiraki]

you'll just be figuring out something we've known for quite awhile tbh

[Hiraki]

I'm a time sensitive survivor

in addition to normal surv wincon I win and leave the game if three days last less than 7 days

just realized that you wouldn't win in this situation

whoops

[Hiraki]

Unvote, Vote: Jaack

glad you've finally figured this out

[Hiraki]

right, we don't want scum to get too much information

[Hiraki]

don't give me that face, i've been very adamant on jaack/vedith(now arc) and who is right

[Hiraki]

oooo...that's scary coming from Drone but I think he's still on our side, right Drone??

[Hiraki]

kk we good fam

[Hiraki]

/no one believes you/

just give us your scumbud, tyvm

[Hiraki]

can we make a deal gamma?

if i'm wrong about this, i will happily help you lynch Vedith tomorrow

but I know that there's a 0% chance that I'm wrong

[Hiraki]

are you saying that i'm scum now too?

[Hiraki]

I really can't give you good ones for various reasons that'll probably be revealed tomorrow.

I'm 100% certain in Jaack scum due to Vedith. I have literally never been so secure in a read in my entire mafia career. Solely due to action reasons.

[Hiraki]

this is very annoying

[Hiraki]

im re-reading soon

[Hiraki]

should we claim at this point?

[Hiraki]

should we claim at this point?

[Hiraki]

i was waiting for the why too

i feel like gamma is good but I have been misreading him way too often to not take a stance back

[Hiraki]

Can the day end?

are you sure about this?

[Hiraki]

Can the day end?

are you sure about this?

here is my content but fuck it

Vote: Gamma

sorry dude if this is wrong, i think you know the feeling tho

[Hiraki]

i think so

[Hiraki]

mod shhh i needed reactions

UGH

unvote

since arc won't answer me, i will ACTUALLY read this game again sometime tonight

[Hiraki]

Vote: Gamma

[Hiraki]

I'm still here - I can't just comment on things out of thin air, I've said stuff. I still think that Gamma is the best way to proceed today.

@Mod:

I don't mind if you prod me mod but I check this game thread every day and it's just me (biased here), McMenno, Umlaut and occasionally Gamma. There are 6 people in this game - ArcAngel refuses to post content at this point other than "hey is he dead yet" and is now going on V/LA? - no offense but that's pretty unacceptable to me. Drone hasn't posted since the 6th of this month and isn't being replaced. IIRC, you also sent out prods before that but didn't move any action on Drone.

[Hiraki]

In revision, it was also lost that I think the 5 Day deadline is pretty unacceptable with two players who may not even be here in a very inactive game.

[Hiraki]

Hiraki, can you explain the Gamma case since McMenno refuses to?

I apologize - I read this today and thought I submitted something but in review after coming home, it seems I did not. I will give you this later today (this is 3 AM EST)

[Hiraki]

Gimme the good old East Coast extension and we'll be as good as diamonds.

[Hiraki]

*West Coast...lol

I will admit that I have a bias against Gamma posting (which is why I did re-read and go over his posts a bit because I've consistently called him scum incorrectly a few times now)

Going back, Gamma's D1 posting is pretty good. I think, except for the one obvious dispute, we agreed on a lot of things, especially drealmerz's play with Pupper.

So unless anyone has any objections I say we finish what we started.

This is bad posting because no one has a clue what the fuck is going on and why McMenno survived. I am not saying that Gamma knew that Pupper would die that day but moreso for the fact that going after McMenno didn't really buy him anything great.

Not to mention, this post literally comes up right after:

This is a bastard game. There's no reason to believe anything is certain at all.

So we're just going to do this again because maybe it'll work this time? Not very great for me.

Compared to the failfest that has been our last two attempts on McMenno, this is much better.

Very weird statement to make in that situation from Gamma's actions.

Keep in mind that this was also a vote for Vedith who didn't participate substantively in either the D1 or the D2 wagon. He was on the D2 wagon as more of a meh situation.

As for his read on Vedith, I don't particularly buy it at all and it feels forced from D1-2 postings.

[Hiraki]

Yeah so Arc's last post is on the 23rd. Maybe another 5 day deadline????????????

Vote: Drone

It's either Gamma or Drone for me.

[Hiraki]

And I'd rather lynch an active tbh, since they have the ability to kill

That's a good point.

Unvote, Vote: McMenno

BTW, me and AA are lovers. Happened awhile ago - that's why Vedith and I had a very odd thing going on in D2.

[Hiraki]

I don't think it's Gamma. Considering the person had to be here to make the kill, it's either myself (no), Gamma (no - ech), or McMenno

[Hiraki]

OK - I'm kind of done trying to figure this game out normally - you're not used to this MathBlade because you weren't here D1-D4.

D2 I was paired as a lover with Vedith (now AA), no QT or anything like that. We're just lovers.

[Hiraki]

Do you think I'm lying or that I've been cheated of a QT?

[Hiraki]

Wouldn't that be lovely if you got your way? I'd rather that not happen though. Perhaps we could get along?

KW

[Hiraki]

I don't like how you throw shade my way because I am a replace.

Wasn't shade - I am just being honest that you have not been through this game where we lynch someone twice and two other people randomly die, a random mod controlled person dies, and the deadline situations.

Why would you happily lynch Vedith who was replaced by AA9 if you were lovers?

Because I was sure about Vedith's role. Jaack and Vedith were CCs. I had my doubts that there were two cops in this setup.

[Hiraki]

If you believe Vedith/AA9 to be a cop why haven't you asked AA9/Vedith for results?

Vedith was replaced with AA9 who has been flakey. Doubt those night actions have actually been used.

And why wouldn't the supposed cop be dead?

Mafia has been killed since N4. I have no clue why.

[Hiraki]

What should I be doing then, Mathblade?

[Hiraki]

I am scumhunting. Are you saying I should keep my lover in consideration?

[Hiraki]

Unvote

[Hiraki]

I know AA9 needs replacing. It's a shame the mod does not.

[Hiraki]

I have reason to believe Hiraki isn't town.

Does this have anything to do with the cop stuff Vedith was talking about?

[Hiraki]

I checked Hiraki and it said Cult...
So... VOTE: McMeno

Plz read mathblade

[Hiraki]

Clearly tho, kind of ready for endgame tbh

[Hiraki]

What of the above implies that i was fishing?

[Hiraki]

R u being serious

Because when the claimed cop has reason to believe that I'm scum and won't reveal why, i guess the first question should be why instead of a good guess - wait how is that scummy again????

[Hiraki]

I didn't enjoy this and I think the fact that my told role was a BP and my flip role was a Mafia GF says a lot. I understand it's bastard but that doesn't totally justify randomness.

[Hiraki]

there was no randomness.

It is easy to say that when you're sitting from above.