Mini 1869- camn's revenge GAME OVER!

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

We just voted but come on

[Aristophanes]

XD

[Aristophanes]

Finally!!!

[SirCakez]

Uhhhhhh

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Ari

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

There's no possible way Ari is scum

[Aristophanes]

Yes Gin?

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

ARE YOU SCUM

[camn]

Well, Fate.
I never thought you would betray me.

But they say you have.
I salvaged my antique throwing sword from the last party... lets see if it's still sharp!

Fate was stabbed with an antique throwing sword.....AGAIN...

Hmm. My aim was a little off.
I see I hit you in the femoral artery.
I wonder how long that will take to kill you?

Wait- What's that in your pocket? What do you have there?

[camn]

OMG, Fate... what IS that? Is that a fucking

INDUSTRIAL LASER??

WHa- What are you doing with that thing? Do you carry it around all the time?

Well.. I hope you aren't thinking of pointing it at me. You are the one fooling around so much that you had to be stabbed. Don't blame me.

What's that?
You don't want to shoot me? Good. Cuz that would be stupid.
WHOA! what are you doing?

HOLY SHIT THAT IS INTENSE!

Hey Fate...
Fate?

Shit he's not moving anymore. And that is a lot of blood.



Well.. the smoke is clearing at least....

Fate,

Vengeful Townie

,

finally died of blood loss.

Aristophanes, was horribly and instantaneously burned to death with an industrial laser. He was a

VANILLA TOWNIE!!

Shit. That was unexpected.. hey wait.. what happened to Pine?

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OH NO!
He is gone!

Gin, Cakez...- what is happening...



Waait. GIN is DEAD. IN MY OWN HOUSE!
Fuck this shit- I am out of here. This party went straight to shit.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic,

1-shot EavesDropper,

was strangled from behind.

camn

,

Innocent Child

,

jumped in her helicopter for a last minute escape.

She may or may not return FOR GREAT JUSTICE.
But For now- The Chalet belongs to Pine. WHEREVER HE MAY BE.

GAME OVER! SCUM WIN!

[camn]

The Setup is enclosed HERE:
More talk in a bit. I have to get up and go to work!

Spoiler: SETUP

TOWN

:

TheRealGin-N-Tonic

: 1-shot EavesDropper (including Pine)

BTD6_MAKER

: 1-shot EavesDropper (No-Pine)

Fate

: Vengeful Townie

Prism

: 1-shot twilight neighborizor (even night, with daytalk)

mastina

: 1-shot twilight neighborizor (odd night, night talk only)

Monokuma

: Inventor

Nachomamma8

: 1-shot Hider

Aristophanes

: Vanilla

Vaxkiller

: Vanilla

drealmerz7

: Vanilla

SCUM

:

SirCakez

: Backup Strongman

Aeronaut

: JOAT (1-shot Jailkeep, 1-shot Rolecop, 1-shot Strongman)

Katsuki

: Godfather

Pine

: Guilty Child Impotent Treestump

Spoiler: Notes on the Roles

"You,

NAME

, are a

Town1-shot EavesDropper

, trying to make a living and survive this insanity.

* You have a unique talent. You are sneaky. Once during the game, you may send me a target, and sneak around listening to thier conversations. The First night will be dedicated to recon. You will follow them and learn thier movements. The second night you will go check out anything that looked suspicious.. and hopefully overhear a nighttime communication of theirs. You just have to tell me WHO and WHEN. You may target ANYONE IN THE GAME.. including Pine.
- Once during the game, tell me a person you will recon. This takes one night
- Once you have reconned someone, in some SUBSEQUENT night, tell me you want to listen in on them . The next thing they post in a PT will be sent to you.. partially redacted, I am sure.

* Additionally, your voice and vote are powerful weapons in their own right. Use them to your best advantage!
* At no time may you privately communicate with any other player, unless otherwise advised
* You win when all of PINE'S LACKEYS are dead, whether you survive to the end or not. Leave Pine for me."

Spectators include:

Firebringer
UpTooLate
MagnaofIllusion
ThinkBig

[camn]

Final Summary, etc!

For your enjoyment:
Scumtopic- (will open if its OK)
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=69772
Mastina's Hood:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=70136
Prism's Hood (gods if only someone had been listening in!):
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=70147
Draft Thread
- me and Pine got too real here, so we are gonna keep it closed.

Spoiler: Night Actions:

Night 1

TheRealGin-N-Tonic targeted Aeronaut. (This is a Recon-Targeting)
mastina targeted TheRealGin-N-Tonic in twilight to setup a 'Hood.
Monokuma gave Watch to SirCakez
SirCakez killed Nachomamma8 (no effect)
Aeronaut targeted mastina (JK- no effect)
Nachomamma8 hid behind Katsuki and died.

Night 2

TheRealGin-N-Tonic targeted Aeronaut and got results
Prism targeted Fate in twilight and opened a 'Hood
Monokuma gave BPV to Gin
SirCakez watched Gin
Aeronaut killed Mastina (Strongarm-Kill)

Night 3

Monokuma gave Tracker to SirCakez
SirCakez killed Monokuma

Night 4

SirCakez Targeted TheRealGin-N-Tonic, but BPV

Night 5

SirCakez killed Prism

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Spoiler: my notes

So, Of course- this was a troll game, and advertised as suchh, so screw the haters!
But I always say- any game that makes it to Lylo with just one scum left is balanced. QED.

Anyway- my thoughts were this:
1. I consider 2x 1-shot abilities to be about the same as a single unlimited, maybe weaker.
Why? They are stronger cuz it takes two kills to nullify, but weaker because its only 2-shot.
Also, weaker cuz counterclaim comfusion, like here.. but stronger cuz confirmation with flip.

Given that, we had
Inventor
Eavesdropper
Hider
Vengeful
Neighborizor.

For me, the Neighborizor is not a powerful role, it can go either way, and it was in place to offer false guilties to the eavesdropper.
The Eavesdropper could be countered by PLAY alone.. so it's scum-counter was the ROLECOP. Once scum KNOWS it exists.. they can play around it. They didn't do so here.. but that is not a balance issue.
Inventor is also a weak role, because it can go like it did here.. with abilities to scum. No real counter needed, although the Strongarm Kill counters the BPV.

2. I explicitly stated that I balanced AGAINST the scum-abilities.. not the other way around, as is typical. Which is why I think inclusion of a Hider/Tracker/Watcher set was fair. The combination is no more powerful than a single sane unlimited cop, IMO..
THough again.. how it played out, none of those were significant.. other than Nacho.
There was some debate about resolution of nacho's death.. but I think it is the same no matter how I slice it.
Either the hiding kills him.. or he DOESN'T HIDE, right? and he is killed by the nightkill. . .and same result.
I guess he could successfully hide..and avoid the kill, and NOT reflexively die.. I will think about that in the future.. but I think it is TOO non-normal. The Godfather role is already non-normal.. but it is well-known enough that it makes sense.. to the extent that Cop-Innocents are always questioned. I'm not sure it is the same with Hider-Innocents.. so I think that would be TOO MUCH, unless the Hider Role PM had some statement about this, which mine did not!

Lastly- My bad with Jin/ Gin.
JIN was in Hunger Games.. whereas GIN was in under an alt or something... so he was not really on my radar as a nickname. So when Pine said "Gin, I scanned the playerlist and saw Jin... and
Luckily Katsuki made good on that.

[camn]

My TOWNWIN ENDING>>> CUZ IT WAS AWESOMER!

Spoiler:

OK- You have made a decision I see....
SirCakez, huh?
I wasn't really suspicious of him! But now that you have laid out your reasoning.. I SEE WHAT YOU MEAN!

Lets interrogate him, huh? We can use my bat again.

HEY CAKEZ! ARE YOU SCUM? ARE YOU?
DID YOU SELL ME OUT TO PINE???

Huh. He wouldn't talk.
Lets go through his stuff....

SirCakez, beaten to death Day 5, was a

Mafia Backup Strongman!

O. M. G!
That is all of them!
NOW I CAN DO WITH PINE AS I PLEASE!!!

Ok .. just give me a few minutes....

PINE!

THIS is for KILLING NACHO!!

AND FOR THE BEAR

AND FOR TURNING KATSUKI AGAINST ME!!!

AND FOR KILLING MASTINA

ALSO for that time in Cabo when you stood me up..

AND PARIS!

AND MOST OF ALL>>>>> FOR RUINING THE HUNGER GAMES!
I HAD A PLAN FOR GREATNESS.. AND YOU RUINED EVERYTHING!!!

Pine,

Guilty Child Impotent Treestump

, was brutally violated in unspeakable ways, Day 5.
GAME OVER!
TOWN WINS!

[camn]

ALso--

SORRY for being such a shitty mod so many times.
Im traveling.. I didnt expect this game to open so quickly...but it is what it is.

I screwed up JIN/GIN.
I screwed up an entire day of votecounts. which would have seen Fate dead earlier.. and probably a town win.
I misflipped Mastina..

/Sigh.
I will improve.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

FATE FUCK YOU FOR NOT FUCKING LISTENING

I HAD GAME FUCKING SOLVE

[Pine]

MUAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

The Chalet is mine![/i][/color][/b]

[Pine]

FATE FUCK YOU FOR NOT FUCKING LISTENING

I HAD GAME FUCKING SOLVE

Yeah but it wasn't about you. It was about him.

This is actually a common Town flaw - figuring out the setup is only half the battle. You also have to convince the Town. All we had to do in endgame was let Fate's paranoia run off the rails.

[Pine]

You'll notice, if you look back over the game, that my trolling was way less substantive when Town was off-track, and a lot heavier when you were close to the mark.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

God I'm so fucking angry

[Fate]

I am not sorry.

I asked for a No lynch. I made it very clear it was the superior play.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

You'll notice, if you look back over the game, that my trolling was way less substantive when Town was off-track, and a lot heavier when you were close to the mark.

I did notice. I couldn't say anything because Fate would have accused me of WIFOM of it all

[Fate]

I wanted Sir Cakez lynched days 1-fucking 5 anyway

SO

I don't want to hear it

[drealmerz7]

thanks, camn! for a very interesting setup and premise!!!

it was fun to watch and participate a little in - being VT in such a cool setup kind of bummed me out, and then RL stuff kind of made me not able to invest the necessary energy to play correctly, I should have probably replaced but, I wanted to be a part of the magic! :\

gin, again, definitely not hard feelings on my part, we are totally different types of players and I'm sure we will figure out interaction that works for us both in future games

fate, mastina, camn, and katsuki), I hope the both of you pick up playing a game here or there and to see you in future games, I can pretty much guarantee nothing will be as atrocious as mystic/this game from me in the future, it was just bad circumstances and timing for things on a large scale

also, keep watch for my theme games coming to both queues, I think they'll be the sort of setups you'll be in to for varying reasons

[Aristophanes]

I'm so so so sorry everyone!

[drealmerz7]

peace, friends