Mini 1869- camn's revenge GAME OVER!

[Aristophanes]

This has been one of the most enjoyable games I've played!

I hope the scumteam felt the same!

[Aristophanes]

seriously though can someone tell me why you all think I'm scum?

From evidence before or after the hammer?

[Aristophanes]

Lets find them.

Letsa go!

[Aristophanes]

Ummm, Camn, I just noticed that Aero was in the count all day yesterday. All of the VCs.
And that he counted towards the lynch limit.

What that done on purpose or was it accidental?

Ha ha - it was accidental. Stupid spreadsheet.
I'm the worst mod ever, this game!

[Aristophanes]

I GET IT ALREADY!

Spoiler: ..

VOTE COUNT 4 . 1

• TheRealGin-N-Tonic -
  0 ( )
  L- 5
  
  
  Fate ---------------
  1 ( SirCakez, )
  L- 4
  
  
  drealmerz7 ---------
  0 ( )
  L- 5
  
  
  Aeronaut

  -----------
  0 ( )
  L- 5
  
  
  Prism --------------
  0 ( )
  L- 5
  
  
  SirCakez -----------
  0 ( )
  L- 5
  
  
  Vaxkiller ----------
  0 ( )
  L- 5
  
  
  Aristophanes -------
  0 ( )
  L- 5
  
  
  
  Not Voting -
  7 ( TheRealGin-N-Tonic, Aristophanes, drealmerz7,
  Aeronaut
  , Fate,
  Prism, Vaxkiller, )

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to SUMMON CAMN'S WRATH
Deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-15 20:00:00)

VOTE COUNT 4 . 2

• TheRealGin-N-Tonic -
  0 ( )
  L- 5
  
  
  Fate ---------------
  3 ( SirCakez, Vaxkiller, TheRealGin-N-Tonic, )
  L- 2
  
  
  drealmerz7 ---------
  1 ( Fate, )
  L- 4
  
  
  Aeronaut

  -----------
  0 ( )
  L- 5
  
  
  Prism --------------
  0 ( )
  L- 5
  
  
  SirCakez -----------
  0 ( Pine )
  L- 5
  
  
  Vaxkiller ----------
  0 ( )
  L- 5
  
  
  Aristophanes -------
  0 ( )
  L- 5
  
  
  
  Not Voting -
  4 ( Aristophanes, drealmerz7,
  Aeronaut
  ,
  Prism, )

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to SUMMON CAMN'S WRATH
Deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-15 20:00:00)

VOTE COUNT 4 . 3

• TheRealGin-N-Tonic -
  0 ( )
  L- 5
  
  
  Fate ---------------
  0 ( )
  L- 5
  
  
  drealmerz7 ---------
  5 ( Vaxkiller, Fate, Aristophanes, SirCakez, TheRealGin-N-Tonic, )
  L- 0
  
  
  Aeronaut

  -----------
  0 ( )
  L- 5
  
  
  Prism --------------
  0 ( Pine )
  L- 5
  
  
  SirCakez -----------
  0 ( )
  L- 5
  
  
  Vaxkiller ----------
  0 ( )
  L- 5
  
  
  Aristophanes -------
  0 ( )
  L- 5
  
  
  
  Not Voting -
  3 ( Prism, drealmerz7,
  Aeronaut
  ,
  )

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to SUMMON CAMN'S WRATH
Deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-15 20:00:00)

[Aristophanes]

We rushed yesterday a bit. I suppose we should at least think today.

Thoughts on a Massclaim?
Yae or Nay?

[Aristophanes]

I have a boring one. I inherited a VT role.
Never got gifted anything and haven't done shit lol

I'll popcorn to Cakes I suppose.

[Aristophanes]

Of course, if Vax comes in first he's welcome to just do his thing and claim.

[Aristophanes]

Also, out of Vax or Cakez, who would you lean? I'm personally leaning on Cakez, at least my heart tells me that.

I'm mostly with you on Cakez. I had something that I got hung up on earlier that made me townread him, but I think it was PineWine, so I'm disregarding it now.

[Aristophanes]

I mean, I appreciated it.

You getter respect Camn or she'll leave you tied up on the floor! XD

[Aristophanes]

All were doing is killing Gin tho, what's the point!? Maybe do this tomorrow, but NL solves nothing today!

Tracker result would be neat ad well.

I'll reconsider this, but I don't think we need to NL yet.

[Aristophanes]

We're being slow for no reason.

[Aristophanes]

I don't see why you wouldn't want one of me/Ari to go additionally, just as a matter of safety.

We can do that D6 with a NL.
I don't see the point of it with so many left.

[Aristophanes]

HOLY SHIT GIN!
I JUST CLICKED YOUR ISO TO SEE WHERE YOUR VOTE IS AND YOU HAVE 756 POSTS!!!

756

That's more than some while games have from all users!!!

I will honour your request for a lynch today and
VOTE: Cakey

[Aristophanes]

While = whole*

:gacepalm:

[Aristophanes]

VOTE: vax
Should be clear why

Because you don't self vote, even if it would be on scum?

[Aristophanes]

Also, Gin, if there is scum in {Prism, Fate} and we lose this because we didn't reexamine them, I'm gonna be really sad.

[Aristophanes]

Okay, right. I forgot the details (yeah, even the bomb claim. That feels like so long ago! lol)

So, Lynch Cakez, you or I die at night.

NL, Prsim or I die at night.

3P lylo where we lynch Fate, he kills Vax, guaranteed win.

Got it!

[Aristophanes]

Sometimes I need it spelled out. Thanks Gin!

[Aristophanes]

Gin, you're worrying too much about remaining alive fir the final kill.

Why don't we just wait for Prism to hammer Cakez?

[Aristophanes]

Cakez is a more likely Scum choice for Pine, but fine.

VOTE: Vax

[Aristophanes]

Pine my friend, would you like to hammer your scumbuddy?

[Aristophanes]

MY HAMMER NOOOOO

I GET STRONGEST SCUM ABILITIES WHEN I HAMMER

Well you should have been faster then my friend!

[Aristophanes]

Ohey accidental Pagetop! I love those!

[Aristophanes]

gg scumteam?

If not, I'm gonna have to ask you to paraphrase Pine's freakout from the Scumthread when Day 6 opens.

[Aristophanes]

You fuck should know not to discuss until the game is over!!!

That said, I'll vote NL. But do we need to?
We know the answer.

I think...

[Aristophanes]

Sigh

GG guys

You are literally the worst!!!!!


And I love it! <3

[Aristophanes]

Respectable!

[Aristophanes]

I can see if I have time to be here and chat with you at some point yo

[Aristophanes]

Can do yo!
Though I warn you, my Mylo hat is made of tinfoil...

[Aristophanes]

She is so likely to be!
I hope we're making you proud, town!

[Aristophanes]

So Gin, I'm like, quite certain it is cakes after his ISO keyword read.

He "nullscum" read aero all game and said it many times,but never pushed it.
He looked like he was distancing from Jin hardcore, and pushed Kats/Fate preflip way too hard. Like he was setting up a mislynch on Fate knowing Kats was as good as dead. And he tried so hard to get the Fate wagon through instead while being "willing to vote Kats if I have to."

When he makes the scumteam predictions, it's 1 scum, 2 town (assuming he's scum) in Dreal/Kats/Fate (somehow no Aero, his consistent Nullscum and full scum read), which is a classic scum formula.

I still have to do this for Fate, but I mean, it's right here!

I just got Ninja'd in triplicate.
I'm putting in work Gin! XD

And another ninja.

[Aristophanes]

Fate,are you actually SS?

[Aristophanes]

She is so likely to be!
I hope we're making you proud, town!

You aren't

Then I'll work harder!

[Aristophanes]

Yeah, I realized it was a dumb question after I hit "submit"

[Aristophanes]

So, I like Fate's Iso a hell of a lot more. He didn't realism until 500+ pages there was Gin and Jin. He waaaaay over defended Katsuki upon replacement. No scum buddy would do that. He then flew off the handle at Cakez for his Kats/Fate scumteam push, which once again was just so much, too much!

Never really mentioned Jin, and Aero was just kinda there in his ISO.

Now if u tinfoil this, Fate obviously faked not knowing there were 2 Gin/Jin people,made epic scum theatre, and didn't mention Aero because meh, fuck associatives.

But it seems like the wrong answer.

[Aristophanes]

So if Ari and I are town, Fate is some kind of shoot a wagoner or shoot the hammerer,

is the optimal play not to have Ari and I vote Fate and then SC hammer?

Yes.

Same result as if we NL, then one of us rushes in to vote him before SC can, and SC hammers (or doesn't, forcing a NL and an NK, leading to his victory.)

If he doesn't vote Fate today, we lynch him tomorrow. If he doesn't lynch fate tomorrow, he wins as he has no reason to hammer then and we are helpless.

[Aristophanes]

Same result as if we NL, then one of us rushes in to vote him before SC can, and SC hammers (or doesn't, forcing a NL and an NK, leading to his victory.)

Gin, it is integral we vote now, as I think about the situation!

VOTE: Fate

[Aristophanes]

No Lynching is a dumb idea here, by the way.

Yup.

We can't, because we hand scum the victory.

Gin, vote before Cakez gets here and shots up our win!!

Ninja'd
U da best <3

[Aristophanes]

No fucking way it's Gin IMO. Why bus Aero there? He wasn't very suspected.

VOTE: Fate
Wanted this dead for so long now

Only scumread on q living player I can find from recent days.

So it has to be Fate or I in his eyes, and if he can look at me and say I'm scum and vote me, then GG, we lynch you tomorrow when today goes to NL Cakez.

He has to vote Fate. He has no choice! If he doesn't we kill him. If he does Fate kills him. He's a dead man walking!

[Aristophanes]

The only way you get out of this, Pine, is if Gin has played one of the best scumgames I've ever seen!
If thus is the case, he is going to get the greatest Scummy nom I've ever written!

Gin, don't let him get to you

[Aristophanes]

Well thats up to scum to roll the dice

Did I fall for Pines trollgambit? How many layers of wifom have I added?


HehhEHHAHAHAHBHA

I hate you sometimes

[Aristophanes]

Fate, wtf XD

[Aristophanes]

What the actual fu-----

Gin, why did you give in!?

Fate, why. Just why.
The only would this makes sense is if you are Scum, not vengeful/bomb/SS/whatever!

Else tomorrow will come, I'll vote you, Cakes hammers, one or both die and I live.

If you kill me to and you make a 1v1 with Gin leading to his hammer and scum victory I'll be so disappointed!

[Aristophanes]

Fate, claim your actual role right the funk now!
I'm not kidding around anymore!

[Aristophanes]

Like, if we lose this, if Gin gets lynched, if I have to watch this all from the sidelines, after all this, I don't even know what I'm gonna do.

[Aristophanes]

This has gotta be Camn's revenge for the PYP I messed up for her.

[Aristophanes]

Which may not have been her now that I think about it. I can't remember...

[Aristophanes]

Whatever. I'm at work now.

Byeeee~

[Aristophanes]

Where the hell is Cakez

[Aristophanes]

Where the hell is Cakez

Cakez hasn't posted anywhere on site in most of a day.

Ah.
Then I will not fault him there.

But he'd better get his azz in here azap!

[Aristophanes]

Okay, you should read up then vote Fate tho

[Aristophanes]

Nobody else can be the lynch today. The only other option is NL

[Aristophanes]

Unless we draw this out no real reason to though.

[Aristophanes]

Why don't we just lynch Cakez or Ari? I could be happy with their skulls on the mantle of my new mountain chalet.

You'd love that, wouldn't you!
I may use yours as a challis though, once town crushes you and all! (If Camn allows it that is)

[Aristophanes]

Gin is here, hes being too obtuse

This is the first thing you've said today that I agree with!

[Aristophanes]

Full proof, because this theory is on fire!!
I don't disagree man. I don't get what is so hard for these two to figure out. I mean, I know they have to fight, as scum, but they're doomed!

[Aristophanes]

I think Fate just needs a hug.
*Hugs Fate*

I am town.
If Gin were scum, I'm sure he would have faked a usage or result of the track. I mean, if he supposedly faked the kill attempt, it seems likely.
This means it is you or Cakez.
This is why we have the plan in place.

@Cakez
If you are town, hammer Fate.
If you do not, it is a scum claim and you

WILL BE LYNCHED TOMORROW!

Make the right choice!

[Aristophanes]

I'm pretty sure the last scum is Ari

<3

[Aristophanes]

Camn is a sint for putting up with this squabbling!

Loving this game <3

[Aristophanes]

Ah Shit!
New phone giving me weird words...

Oh well, you know what I mean

[Aristophanes]

XD

[Aristophanes]

Finally!!!

[Aristophanes]

Yes Gin?

[Aristophanes]

I'm so so so sorry everyone!

[Aristophanes]

I had an amazing time this game!

Fate, if you shot me because of my little troll (when I thought you were Supersaint and the game was GG!) I am so sorry. I didn't know it would have any consequences, but I should have taken my own advice and played to the whistle.

You guys should see the messages I sent Camn while you decided! (Iight actually quote them lol)

[Aristophanes]

I guess it's time to get rid of the Evil Chris Pine avvie.

NOW TAKING AVATAR SUGGESTIONS

I love it tbh

[Aristophanes]

And he picked Ari!

ARI!

I could justify shooting Gin because he was buying into the notion that Gin outing Aero was an epic bus gambit (IT WOULD HAVE BEEN GIN I WANT YOU ON MY TEAM), but Ari was just blatantly obvTown.

Hahaha well, at least I've got that going for me! XD

Nacho, Gin, Martina, thank you so much for letting me get into this game! I'm so appreciative for your efforts <3

[Aristophanes]

I'll take pre-ins up to the limit of the 13 player thing

/in

[Aristophanes]

Oh, he shot Ari. Yeah I can see that, even I got suspect of Ari when he did that "halo" yes gin thing :p

I mean,that was the point of it.
Because Fate was Supersaint.
So the game was over and we had won.
Which was why there was no point in No Lynching.
Which was why I insisted Fate finish his claim if there was any variant he'd glossed over.

I mean, I'm not putting blame there, but had we had his claim proper, I'd have NL'd like he asked and wouldn't have trolled and we may have won this!

[Aristophanes]

Oh fuck me

There is no possible way Ari is scum

There seriously can't be

If Ari is scum, that thirst for revenge, I fucking feel it.

My freakout ^^

Beautiful!
This was my goal XD

[Aristophanes]

My freakout to Camn after threadless and twilight:

Shit!

He wasn't a bomb, right?
Just SuperSaint??

If my little bit of trolling causes us to lose I'm actually going to be so so so dismayed!!!
I shouldn't have done that!

I'm freaking out a little with this delay!!!

You're freaking my out here!!!

I must know!

WHAT HAVE I DONE!?!?!?

Edit

It's been half an hour!
CAMN! CAAAAAAAMN!!!

Camn!

It's been 12 hours! I've begun to hallucinate and come up with crazy ideas! I don't know how much longer I can last!
I figure Fate claimed Vengeful, had it skewed to mean Supersaint and just went with it, knowing he'd have to make a choice no matter who hammered. This is why he wanted NL, to whittle down the choices

he'd

have to make, not the one the rest of us would make, as he was the defecto lynch anyway!

Meaning I fucked up.
Royally.
So Royally I may have cost the game!
Because I didn't listen to Fate and decided to toy with Gin after our surefire win!

Fate has to make the right choice! It's all on him! And I give him all my strength to do so!

I'm waning fast. If I don't get water or to civilization soon, I'll surely perish.
If I die, tell the town I'm sorry, and that I love them! <3

[Aristophanes]

awwww aristo's freakout posts are so adorable

Heehee thanks

[Aristophanes]

Yuss! Get Tammy into this awesomeness!

[Aristophanes]

Should I give Pine an auto-pre-in?

Obv

[Aristophanes]

literally making me almost cry

No hard feelings, I mean that, but I think this is grounds for my revenge seeking needs

<3
Gin, you were fantastic this game!

[Aristophanes]

Honestly I never read the part where Mono claimed...

I didn't know what had been given out or even what could be given out until people caused a fuss about it

[Aristophanes]

I already cried over this game

Especially after seeing thise aristo PMs

I went by setup and trying to outguess what people would do with ther Night actions optimally and not just my pure gut scumread om Cakez that was there the entire game

Aristos troll angel pushed me over the edge

I let you down Gin. There was zero reason for me to not realclaim since Pine didnt buy my Bomb claim after the Vax lynch

I'm sorry. You played well just rest in that

Man, I'm so sorry for doing that to you!
Know that you are fantastic regardless! <3

Town also missed a huge redflag.

No one claiming the track confirmed it went to scum.

Gin claims it even if he's mafia. If it doesn't go to him, Cakez as receiver of the watch is the logical target.

Didn't I catch that?
I thought I said that.

[Aristophanes]

Ari, I do have warn you though for future reference. DO NOT DICK AROUND IN MYLO LYLO lmfao

I know.

But like, I thought game over, so what was the harm!?

Apparently so much.

[Aristophanes]

Like, I obviously have enough experience to know that. I just was having fun because I knew we had won!

[Aristophanes]

They slipped twice Gin.
Iso them for the answer.

[Aristophanes]

Bruh, you had me freaking out, I spent like 4 hours pouring over your ISO because I thought you were scum and was like "how the fuck did Ari pull this off."

I didn't sleep after the hammer

I'm honestly so sorry!!

No kill.

Because lulz.

This would have broken Fate's psyche

Totally!!

[Aristophanes]

I didn't sleep after the hammer

like, neither did I!

[Aristophanes]

This game was so fun because the player list was relatively elite and there weren't any spambots aside from Gin

I'm flattered!

[Aristophanes]

I openly want to talk about my meta so I can come with a balanced meta when it comes to posting activity.

Good luck?

I've been trying for years, and just ask Nacho how easy I am to Meta..

[Aristophanes]

One day I'm going to teach Ari how to lie

Hahaha I'll take the classes!

[Aristophanes]

Isn't that bannable!

[Aristophanes]

I know Camn! <3

[Aristophanes]

Just pretend-multiball.

I always assume multiball unless proven differently! (Or in open setups)

[Aristophanes]

But pretend HARDER! Find that other scum!

I will!
One day...

This is why I like 3p roles. I can play as town with my own wincon and actually scumhunt still!

[Aristophanes]

I personally prefer using fake guilties as a means of pushing town as scum

Okay RC...

[Aristophanes]

I personally prefer using fake guilties as a means of pushing town as scum

Okay RC...

Ari, you know the context of this little jab at Camn right?

I may or may not...

I have a bad habit of forgetting things tbh

[Aristophanes]

This has gotta be Camn's revenge for the PYP I messed up for her.

Which may not have been her now that I think about it. I can't remember...

Aris, your endgame play is improving a lot. I was following bits and pieces of this, and when I saw it was over I started reading from the last day, looked at your posts and went "yep he's town and his point about Cakez is probably correct".

<3

Thanks!
And sorry again!

I've tried to make a move in the right direction! My Lylo/mylo play really is something that has needed improvement for a long time!