Open 665 - Friends and Enemies - Game Over! Town Victory!!!

[gigabyteTroubadour]

reads don't change as in who is town or who is scum but i misread the masonry ok

[MathBlade]

Let's win this thing people's. I'm going to bed but I really would prefer a LUV+Giga lynch over Fitz but they are agreeing to bus their buddy. I'm 100% sure Giga's not a mason here based on Giga's posting and LUV is pretty much side by side lock step sans reasons. At least Fitz is trying to hunt.

Fitz today and then we see what happens and if we have scum cornered or not. Let's get three scum lynches.

[havingfitz]

Fcuk it. I'm 100% certain I'm not scum.
I'm not certain moz isn't scum plus he's a chicken with his head cut off.
Better he goes then I do.

VOTE: moz

[havingfitz]

fitz why do you keep assuming uzi is townreading moz

What makes you think I'm assuming this? Cause I'm not.

[havingfitz]

VOTE: moz

Moz and I are both at L-1 btw.

[MathBlade]

Yep and that means moz/fitz/king impossible else King would have hammered both of you easily by now. King is the deciding vote. You don't pressure King while realizing he is the deciding vote. Fitz giga luv. #perfectSweep2017 Go Town. King hammer scum!fitz going to bed.

[Empking]

We definitely ought to be waiting for Having's claim That's only sensible.

I haven't been in the background If the other eight players take pleasure in ignoring me then I cannot physically stop that Even when the scum team is obviously Hawk/SS/LUV and at this point LUV can taste his chain of mislynches that he's not even bothering to hide it.

Giga: your whole thinking behind us being scum was your Mason-reading Everything after that is confirmation bias - you're human you suffer it - should you not try to read the game with an open mind. I think you're town. If any of us of your 'scum team' get lynched and when we flip town can you promise me that when we flip town that you'll start looking at Hawk, at SS, and at LUV?

King is confirmed scum and I have actual meta on him. I've caught him as scum twice.

Have we played two completed games together? Have we played any completed game where you didn't want to lynch me from my first post?

[Empking]

Or Moz' claim if Having is right about him being on L-1 Although, I doubt he is

[havingfitz]

We definitely ought to be waiting for Having's claim That's only sensible.

I've already claimed. I'm not scum.

And it's same to assume I'm not a mason either given the fact I've been at L-1 twice now and not claimed it.

Vote moz Empking.

[havingfitz]

that means moz/fitz/king impossible

It is impossible because I'm town. derpblade

[havingfitz]

Although, I doubt he is

We're both L-1. You are the only player not voting either of us.

[havingfitz]

At least Fitz is trying to hunt.

But let's vote him out anyway.

I kind of hope I'm not lynched as my schedule is looking like I'll have more time to devote to this game after Saturday.

[Empking]

I've been working off the assumption that Moz and Having are Masons - I haven't looked for the third since Mason-hunting is anti-town - which would explain Moz' immortality since Mason's won't bus etc. They're bussing right now, which doesn't really make sense.

I think I may have been reading the game all wrong. Which would make human if I stuck by it Still if the people who had a better grasp of the game are calling for a hasmmer then I guess

Unvote
Vote: Having

I'm going to get to rereading the game.

p-edit: Oh, that confirms it sorry guys

[havingfitz]

I'm town. Well played Einsteins.

[havingfitz]

I'd be amazed if scum don't hit a mason tonight. Surely they can't go 0-3. Good luck with the claim game tomorrow.

[havingfitz]

p-edit: Oh, that confirms it sorry guys

What are you talking about? What are you apologizing for?

[Empking]

p-edit: Oh, that confirms it sorry guys

What are you talking about? What are you apologizing for?

It confirms that you're not a Mason. You claimed it. I had thought your "I'm Town" and not being more specific was a veiled Maon game. I'm sorry for misreading the game so badly up to this point.

[havingfitz]

Whatever. Town deserves to lose at this point. Starting with BBT's pussout on D1. Unless he's a mason please vote out Hawk tomorrow. MB deserves to go as well for pushing my lynch for absolutely no reason other than low activity and misreps.

gg scum.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

I've been working off the assumption that Moz and Having are Masons - I haven't looked for the third since Mason-hunting is anti-town - which would explain Moz' immortality since Mason's won't bus etc. They're bussing right now, which doesn't really make sense.

I think I may have been reading the game all wrong. Which would make human if I stuck by it Still if the people who had a better grasp of the game are calling for a hasmmer then I guess

Unvote
Vote: Having

I'm going to get to rereading the game.

p-edit: Oh, that confirms it sorry guys

math this read progression isnt town tf

so he's considering he has the masons wrong — ok cool i'm human shit happens

but then hes still calling the scumteam SS/LUV/Hawk?

calling horseshit there's zero re-evaluation here

emp im pretty sure is hammering for towncred

fitz's reaction doesnt ping me as definite town so it's possible he's twilight trolling still imo

this game needed the masons to claim imo but hopefully that goes down in lylo

hawk we'll miss ya dearly </3

[gigabyteTroubadour]

I haven't looked for the third since Mason-hunting is anti-town

also tf is this

doing in-thread stuff like outing reads and asking questions to push for masontells =/= masonhunting

just reading the thread and noting associations isnt anti-town

[gigabyteTroubadour]

in a SS/LUV/Hawk world we have:

vts: moz, emp, giga
masons: math, fitz, cmm

technically i guess my name could be swapped around w any mason but it still makes zero sense

giga/luv/fitz makes somewhat more sense at least but masons have awkward interactions D1.

really though w every possible team do this excercise and you'll see why moz/king are the right lynches tomorrow regardless of flip

[Empking]

I didn't hammer for Hawk and sheeping LUV and SS cause I still consider them the scum team.

I haven't looked for the third since Mason-hunting is anti-town

also tf is this

doing in-thread stuff like outing reads and asking questions to push for masontells =/= masonhunting

just reading the thread and noting associations isnt anti-town

If it leaks into your posting, and it undoubtely will, then it is anti-town for two reasons.
1) It helps the scum narrow down the mason's If you're going "these three players are town for *reasons* " then scum will notice that.
2) You are not - despite being a VT - not being completely open to your fellow townies. This means your chain of thinking is not so open and you are more likely to be read as scum as you make chains of logics that have leaps in them etc.

p-edit: I was thinking Moz was also Mason, but there aren't enough possible partners if one of them isn't Having.

"regardless of flip" is not the language of someone who thinks he's lynched scum. Its from someone who either knows he's hit town and is chaining mislynches, or someone who doesn't want to give away that he

knows

we've lynched scum.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

1. only read i have ever been asked to give was uzi and i explained it the way i would whether he's mason or vt

2. fair enough but like at this point it's on them for refusing to reread the thread when asked to. i think the scumteam has been deliberately not shooting masons so im not even sure if we lose a mason tonight. plus several other slots (some mason reads, some vt reads) have already alluded to their reads so...

also tffff on the language bit literally everyone says "regardless of flip" it's just common sense to acknowledge you're not perfect. does it make me scum or are you just trying to shade me here?

yeah im not confident about the lynch because i hated your hammer and fitz was probably my weakest scumread but the gap between him and mb in my reads is huge so i really do not care. info is info and if fitz flips town i have to read the grey slot closer than ISO'ing and ctrl-f'ing the times he said fuck and using my "math is playing to scum wincon when scumhunting w/o prs? town" tell on math

[gigabyteTroubadour]

grey why did u have to replace out ?

[Hawk]

Bleh I missed a lot. My bad guys I would have Hammered Moz but it's fine fairly certain if Fitz is VT that makes me think Moz, Empking, MB or giga

Honestly it was my fault I've been too busy IRL and keep forgetting about this game. Moz Fitz EMP still makes the most sense to me and the fact that they never make any kind of stand together just means there could be only two scum there. Hopefully it wasn't fitz.