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Post Post #1325 (ISO) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:34 am

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In post 1324, Realeo wrote:You see a lot of shandonra mentioning of "I think bbmolla is scum....but maybe not." A consistent attitude with Empking and GE.
Eh. Not damning in itself, but .

Scum typically have different reads for their buddies to minimize such connections.
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Post Post #1326 (ISO) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:34 am

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but interesting*
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Post Post #1327 (ISO) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:38 am

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In post 679, shadonra wrote:Aj The Epic - -Grey-, BBMolla, Empking, randomidget (L-2)
is this really a town wagon? really???
I don't see scum!shadonra making this post, even if I was the one being shaded.

Too much potential for unexpected results from town scrutiny.
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Post Post #1328 (ISO) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:41 am

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In post 1327, -Grey- wrote:
In post 679, shadonra wrote:Aj The Epic - -Grey-, BBMolla, Empking, randomidget (L-2)
is this really a town wagon? really???
I don't see scum!shadonra making this post, even if I was the one being shaded.

Too much potential for unexpected results from town scrutiny.
Explain "Too much potential for unexpected results from town scrutiny."
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Post Post #1329 (ISO) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:42 am

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Persivul-Bbmolla
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Post Post #1330 (ISO) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:43 am

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In post 1328, Realeo wrote:
In post 1327, -Grey- wrote:
In post 679, shadonra wrote:Aj The Epic - -Grey-, BBMolla, Empking, randomidget (L-2)
is this really a town wagon? really???
I don't see scum!shadonra making this post, even if I was the one being shaded.

Too much potential for unexpected results from town scrutiny.
Explain "Too much potential for unexpected results from town scrutiny."
To be specific, what kind of "too much potential" you're talking about?
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Post Post #1331 (ISO) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:43 am

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In post 947, shadonra wrote:
In post 944, Empking wrote:
Vote: Fate
- If there's a town leader its him, but we're not getting anywhere. I don't relly hsve any scumreads. I don't tink many people do. And I think if there's someone to poin to for that then its Fate.
this vote is bad
In post 945, Persivul wrote:
In post 942, Fate wrote:What makes it null lurking and not scum lurking?

Quote specific posts if you can please
You
haven't
quoted his supposedly scummy posts. You
have
said that he skated by D1 and hasn't done fuckall.
You've also said that you were getting cop vibes from him D1, but haven't explained why those vibes couldn't have also come from a gunsmith.
Scum generally have incentive not to make waves, but in this setup a lot of people would also play a PR not to make waves. You're scum reading a lurker on nothing,
despite getting cop vibes from him, and that looks like scum trying to run a potential PR up to see if there's a claim
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VOTE: Fate
bolded part is bad, the rest is why i'm

VOTE: fate

I really don't like you pushing two lurkers on d2 and claiming they're both scum when they continue to lurk. I don't think scum is more likely to do that than disengaged town.
I must say this post does trouble me.

Why shade Empking's vote just to jump on the same wagon?

Ew.
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Post Post #1332 (ISO) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:46 am

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In post 1330, Realeo wrote:
In post 1328, Realeo wrote:
In post 1327, -Grey- wrote:
In post 679, shadonra wrote:Aj The Epic - -Grey-, BBMolla, Empking, randomidget (L-2)
is this really a town wagon? really???
I don't see scum!shadonra making this post, even if I was the one being shaded.

Too much potential for unexpected results from town scrutiny.
Explain "Too much potential for unexpected results from town scrutiny."
To be specific, what kind of "too much potential" you're talking about?
Whenever you put information out for town to scrutinize, you take the risk that information will ultimately be parsed in an unexpected manner.

Scum tends to minimize the risk of such scrutiny by not drawing attention directly to their buddies the way shadonra did to Empking/(BBMolla) in that post.
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Post Post #1333 (ISO) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:48 am

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In post 1332, -Grey- wrote:Whenever you put information out for town to scrutinize, you take the risk that information will ultimately be parsed in an unexpected manner.

Scum tends to minimize the risk of such scrutiny by not drawing attention directly to their buddies the way shadonra did to Empking/(BBMolla) in that post.
If we're talking about scum!Grey, that makes sense.

If we're talking about scum!shandonra, eh no. I don't believe shandonra is that meticulous. I mean, regardless of alignment, a player, who admits in a confbias, but still push his confbias, is not that meticulous enough.
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Post Post #1334 (ISO) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:49 am

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Kinda lukewarm on shadonra as last Scum.

It's possible, I guess, but I think there's more to be found.
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Post Post #1335 (ISO) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:05 am

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BBMolla > shadonra

Sounds like a winning combination to me.
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Post Post #1336 (ISO) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:08 am

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I think this game is pretty much wrapped up.

I'd like to hear from everyone before Molla is put back to L-1, please.
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Post Post #1337 (ISO) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 7:43 am

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I'm not scum so please don't try to find a team with me in it without lynching me you fuckwads
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Post Post #1338 (ISO) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 7:44 am

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I'm not scum and quite frankly I'll be laughing from my grave at my town flip
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Post Post #1339 (ISO) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 7:45 am

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When I flip take note of Greys confidence though, I don't know if he would fake it.
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Post Post #1340 (ISO) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 7:46 am

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In post 1337, BBmolla wrote:I'm not scum so please don't try to find a team with me in it without lynching me you fuckwads
We're working on it, broheim.
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Post Post #1341 (ISO) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 7:46 am

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Actually it's probably Grey/Persival

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Post Post #1342 (ISO) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 7:48 am

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Yeah Grey not suspecting Pers makes zero sense that's probably the team.
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Post Post #1343 (ISO) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 7:48 am

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In post 1341, BBmolla wrote:Actually it's probably Grey/Persival
Oh look, exactly what Gamma spent all of yesterday trying to sell.
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Post Post #1344 (ISO) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 7:48 am

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Realeo votes first in LYLO, if anyone else votes they are scum claiming.
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In post 1179, Gamma Emerald wrote:I have in my excel that I suspect Grey as scum with Persivul due to Grey's voting patterns
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Post Post #1346 (ISO) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 7:49 am

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In post 1343, -Grey- wrote:
In post 1341, BBmolla wrote:Actually it's probably Grey/Persival
Oh look, exactly what Gamma spent all of yesterday trying to sell.
The obvious scum trying to bus his buddies what a shock
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Post Post #1347 (ISO) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 7:49 am

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The dude literally made sure he fucking died by counter claiming

He had no plans to make it to endgame
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Post Post #1348 (ISO) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 7:50 am

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Only thing I'm guilty of is shitty reads.

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Post Post #1349 (ISO) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 7:52 am

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In post 1347, BBmolla wrote:The dude literally made sure he fucking died by counter claiming

He had no plans to make it to endgame
Right.

I know the first thing I do when I'm outed as scum is give town a roadmap to victory.

Makes complete sense.
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