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yeah uh i'm replacing in for antihuman i didnt actually know until now lol
{CMN, Uzi, Mathblade, Snarky, Hawk} are all town i'm pretty sure based on the last page which i skimmed last night
i think that poes the game down to fitz/mozamis/empking fmpov but from reading emp is the only one i actually scumread - will double check i'm not missing any slot tho
more after class i forgot entirely about thisi no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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ok fitz i literally have only read page 47 and snarky and empking's iso why should i not lolhammer you rn for that "i'm not scum" claim that sounds like a slimy way to soft-mason-without-doing so
if you're an actual mason claiming is literally what you should be doung right now because you're about to be POE'd out of the game
i'm p sure you're just scum though
like i'm shocked that the scumteam hasnt picked up on whats been going on - part of why uzi's town
like is there any reason grendel was killed...? that kill baffles me but again i literally read 1 page and skimmed 2 isos so maybe i'm missing the nuance in such a risky kill but
going afk againi no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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math i am 99.9% sure i know the masons and i can tell you fitz isnt one
why is he being dodgy about his claim?
luv can you get in here i am pretty sure math is town but i dont want a repeat of pyp and i already see this convo going to hell
almost home btwi no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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uzi do you agree it's likely moz/fitz/emp?In post 1191, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:The only problem is your slot MB because Grey is unpredictable as hell.
least sure about moz being scum but everyone who dies seemed to be scumreading him?
like there has to be a reason a mason hasnt died yet - boring was obvious town so i can see why theyd opt to kill her over a mason but why grendel?
btw the extent i've read mathblade is ctrl-fing "fuck" in grey's iso and seeing 13 results in one page. meta analysis concludes town.i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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but like
over confirmed town??
i dont understand why a scumteam is suicidal enough to not kill in the masonry because i literally didnt read shit and i'm like 99.9% sure i found the scumteam
boring was a potential recruit target so that at least makes sense
but grendel ?????????? it has to be deliberate
also if theres only two in that team, who's your backup scumread? mb?i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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yeah im cool with moz
VOTE: moz
snarky why is fitz town i dont see it
i'll towncase mb later then i guessLil Uzi Vert wrote:
I have no clue why to be honest.In post 1194, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:but like
over confirmed town??
i dont understand why a scumteam is suicidal enough to not kill in the masonry because i literally didnt read shit and i'm like 99.9% sure i found the scumteam
boring was a potential recruit target so that at least makes sense
but grendel ?????????? it has to be deliberate
also if theres only two in that team, who's your backup scumread? mb?
I can't decided between Moz/MB/your slot. I'm pretty sure it isn't Hawk.i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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snarky you dont take issue with this?In post 1176, havingfitz wrote:My claim is I'm not scum
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like he's leaving his claim options openi no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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like ideally i'd vote empking here but i'm voting for whichever of moz/emp/fitz has the most votes w/o hammering at this point because i dont see myself being wrong on any townread except maybe mb but i highly doubt iti no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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scum!luv kills hawk N2 100% of the time
also this is a game with 3 confirmed town. it helps to read for subtle clues to find themi no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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btw moz dont expect any towncredit from bussing here
scumteam making suboptimal kills here means that they have to bus in order to buy time to masonhunt
there is zero way this scumteam wins via direct CC in lylo against this masonry so they can't lynch a VT todayi no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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sure do wonder why empking and fitz FOS HawkIn post 1071, Hawk wrote:That's three scum pair doesn't make sense MB.
It's Emp Fitz and Moz most likely. If you can't see it it's cause you're blind. Vote either Emp or Moz.
Town:
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Snowman
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Antihuman
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Empking
Mozamis
I'll explain when my head isn't pounding from sinus headaches and I'm not drugged up on cough medicine.i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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hmmmIn post 767, boring wrote:{Grey, Snarky, Hawk, Anti}
{LUV, ConMan, Fitz, Alisae}
{Empking, Fancy, BBT,Moz}
We have a backup mod, right? Should we just try to contact him?i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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HMMMM
i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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yeah im pretty sure emp and fitz doubling up on hawk like that means moz was groomed for endgame
explains why he's significantly less scummy too i'd bus both of my partners in his positioni no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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also this doesnt make sense unless you're softing mason with me or hawk which is uhIn post 1215, mozamis wrote:fitz, uzi, emp, conman, snowman
loli no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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honestly with how this scumteam has been masonhunting this would go over their headsIn post 1222, SnarkySnowman wrote:VT -> faking mason to draw a nightkilli no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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yaaay town with decent readsIn post 1221, ConManMick wrote:
Catching up but could lynch in fitz, king, maybe still Moz.In post 1152, MathBlade wrote:
Because lynching Moz is lazy and lets people not state reads. If after you analyze every player you come back and say "Moz is scum because blah blah blah" then we have a discussion on our hands (assuming blah blah blah is actual reasons of course) But why do you think there are so many mislynches? Because we keep doing shit like not playing mafia having a few votes lurk around and complain why no lynch yet? That is the same thing that happened with Alisae.In post 1151, SnarkySnowman wrote:So uh, how is Moz not lynched?
Also I'm feeling good about fitz town now tbh
CMM and Snowman reads. Now.i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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i'll look into it tomorrow then probably wrt fitz. reading the dead ppl's final reads and votes the only conclusion i can draw here is that they were deliberately ignoring the masons bc they didnt think they were threatening and instead opted to kill players that were threatening. mozamis is a common denominator in both boring and and grendel's readlist, and mozamis is willing to vote both fitz and empking. conclusion here is that he's bussing and hoping to make 3way
super hyped about my new futon and a snow day tomorrow tho so gonna actually sleep for once lmaoo
i dont see uzi as scum at all so if not fitz it has to be mbi no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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see it's always posts like this that make me hope you're scum when we play together but you're almost certainly town ://////In post 1230, MathBlade wrote:FoS LUV
luv is the most obvious town there is, again, because in no universe does luv kill grendel and he's the only one who has any clue what's going on when scum have demonstrated that they do not. this game would not be as easy to replace in if uzi were scum.
you are confusing town apathy/already basically knowing the scumteam and not caring to vote for a top scumread because the scumteam is basically confirmed with scum tactics. there's 8 days to lynch and it's going to be empking/moz/fitz no matter what anyone does about it - i just want to make sure the masons and VTs are basically synced up in case one of them is actually town.
i'm fine with a hammer whenever hawk is, i think this'll be the first entirely town lynch of the game btwi no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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wait nvm this is an all-town wagon tfIn post 772, tojam2 wrote:BlueBloodedToffee (L) - Alisae, Antihuman, boring, Hawk, Lil Uzi Vert, SnarkySnowman, ConManMicki no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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lol???????????????????In post 772, tojam2 wrote:Alisae (L-4) - Empking, mozamis, havingfitz
uzi do you think that makes sense
that the d1 lynch was all town and the cw was all scum?
like
i really REALLY do not see anything else in terms of reads
but what does this implyi no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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this feel like really obvious SvS interactions btwIn post 74, Empking wrote:He looks like he's genuinely scumhunting.
Have a go at guessing why.i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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^ snarky & cmm can you vibe w/ thisIn post 1238, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:moz > king > fitz > mb i think wins the game 100% of the time in terms of lynch orderi no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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*theseIn post 1237, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:this feel like really obvious SvS interactions btw
ebwopi no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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In post 1241, Empking wrote:They're both obviously scum.i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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mb remember when uzi talked about being in autowin
that doesn't come from this scumteam. look at the nightkills
uzi is basically conftown from our povi no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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mb you're smart
look for the masonry. don't say it in-thread
you'll notice that literally ONLY ONE GROUP OF THREE SLOTS make sense as masons
that should be enough to crack the game open for you :/i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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coming from someone voting for hawk this is a riotIn post 1249, havingfitz wrote:
And I'm p sure you wear pants on your head.In post 1184, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:i'm p sure you're just scum thoughi no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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again if there is town in {moz, fitz, empking} i'm just very disappointed
mathblade can join that crew if they want i guess but im cutting them some slacki no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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please just read the game again if you're town for christ's sakeIn post 1252, havingfitz wrote:
Because Hawk is comfirmed town somehow? I missed that confirmation.In post 1250, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
coming from someone voting for hawk this is a riotIn post 1249, havingfitz wrote:
And I'm p sure you wear pants on your head.In post 1184, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:i'm p sure you're just scum though
in a world you're town the scumteam is mb/emp/moz 100% of the time
don't lolhammer moz though i want hawk to talk to mei no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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idk why i'm town that's just my role pmIn post 1254, havingfitz wrote:If you're town you'll just have to resign yourself to being disappointed then. Why aren't you scum? Because of your slot's previous stellar play? Because you have come in and just overposted pointing your finger at people?
at this point i don't have to do any sort of sorting because the scumteam is mechanically confirmed to me as soon as i get two townreads
i am certain uzi is town
that is literally all the info i need to solve this gamei no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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i have now read antihuman's iso and while it's not as clearing as uzi it's obvious townIn post 1256, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:i haven't read antihuman's iso at all btw so why was his slot even scummyi no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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mb does the world of fitz/king/moz make sense to you at the very leastIn post 1059, MathBlade wrote:
That world you are posing doesn't make sense.In post 1058, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Scum is in Fitz, King, MB, and Moz.
maybe do one of your vcas with that as the scumteam ;/i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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ok so scum were deliberately not shooting for a masonIn post 1065, Empking wrote:Grendel seems like a very odd kill. He was far too try-hard to be a Masonm. So I'm guessing scum are in who he was lookng at.
but?????????????????????????????????????????????
their strategy here tho makes zero sense though because the masonry is extremely fucking obvious - so as soon as a VT figures it out and has a correct townread outside of the masonry town wins
what the hell is the point of doing thati no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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yeah this isn't scumIn post 1068, MathBlade wrote:
Just stawp. Mentioning "mason-like" players is bad. Scum should not be given clues as to who the masons are. If they get clues they can start offing the masons which is bad. IMHO we have gotten lucky so far in that no masons have died.In post 1066, Empking wrote:Only Moz, but that's half the game so that still doesn'r explain the kill as compared to other more Mason-like players who were also on the Moz wagon.
In order to find the scum we generally need to look at people who don't want to talk about other players because then they have to have a read on them. In contrast masons will try to look as if they are hunting their partners even voting them occasionally to keep up appearances as to not have to put the mason team.
The scumteam and Mason team are likely going to both have insider knowledge and both will be defensive it is a matter of why they do what they do to find which.
math your scumteam is emp/moz/fitzi no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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math why doesnt moz/emp/fitz make senseIn post 1074, MathBlade wrote:I explained why your team doesn't make sense and you ignore me and continue spouting yours
pedit: lmao
i replaced into this game literally because of how obvious it was
call me selfish but i just wanted the easy wini no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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this is a shallow way to look at thingsIn post 1266, mozamis wrote:at least those 2 seem open to debate and discussion, a town sign.
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literally 1 townread is all i need to be 100% certain about my every move as town
this game is extremely close to being solved because we have 3 conftowni no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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btw math scum have to sow confusion and paranoia at the non-clears to have any shot w the strategy they're going forIn post 1266, mozamis wrote:fuck maybe I've got this all wrong. you and giga the scum on my wagon, not snowman or conman? at least those 2 seem open to debate and discussion, a town sign. fuck though giga did look very town. However, he does seem to be railroading town into a lynch with all his "game solved" bollocks. THIS GAME IS A LONG WAY FROM BEING SOLVED. I dunno. Maybe its just Uzi on my wagon. He's literally making no attempt to scum hunt at all. Maybe he's just waiting for his buddy mathblade to come in and hammer, and that's why he's so cocky?
uzi, mathblade and fitz? or giga? at least fitz seems a bit unsure and confused, a bit of a town tell. Giga's certainty is worrying.
this is a scum posti no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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In post 1272, mozamis wrote:
yeah but if you're scum with Uzi that means nothing.In post 1271, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:i have given my reasoning for my uzi townread
you're acting as though i have no reasoning to have the game down to four suspects when thats literally a normal thing to do as towni no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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think hard on this
i replaced into this game - BEFORE I GOT MY ROLE PM - knowing the masonry
does the narrative here where i implicitly imply knowing three conftown the whole game make sense when we have town (in a giga/math/fitz team) that isnt mason hunting and is still relying on reads? no.... i'd just allow townies like you and emp run around making bad lynchpools and maybe encourage that confusion
scum doesnt hand you a masonry of 4 for no good reasoni no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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ah ok
but yeah the game is solved and i think moz trying to paint that as scummy is.... lol
plus i think a scumteam with moz is the only one w any motive to kill boring and grendel. anyone else shoots a mason probablyi no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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yeah boring is pretty good at looking town - i misread her in all of her scumgames i watched
i can see scum thinking she's a mason with drive to solve the game though with her reads which is why i think the kill wasnt bad
grendel is still utter mindfuck but everyone seems to agree from daystart
but only your actions up to this point actually seem to understand WHY it's mindfuck from a town perspective
and even you said the kill made some degree of sensei no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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