Fire Emblem: Heroes of Mafia [Game Over]

Papa Zito · Post Post #9 (isolation #0) » Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:53 am

first

pedit: ALSDKFJASLKDFJASLKDFJ

VOTE: Vaxkiller

Papa Zito · Post Post #14 (isolation #1) » Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:55 am

In post 10, Vaxkiller wrote:We all follow my vote now.

No you stole my first.

Papa Zito · Post Post #20 (isolation #2) » Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:27 am

In post 18, PeregrineV wrote:
Vote: Prince Lyon

I paid him a small bank transfer processing fee of $2,145USD to expedite a shipment of $45M is GOLD BULLON, and he has not contacted me since I sent him the money by Western Union.

This is probably the best RVS vote I've ever seen.

Papa Zito · Post Post #29 (isolation #3) » Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:43 am

Do you think we could get a Fire Assassin lynch done before he posts?

Papa Zito · Post Post #33 (isolation #4) » Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:47 am

well met

VOTE: Fire Assassin

Papa Zito · Post Post #36 (isolation #5) » Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:01 am

Gamma that was a very bad post.

Papa Zito · Post Post #53 (isolation #6) » Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:28 am

Papa Zito · Post Post #57 (isolation #7) » Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:49 am

Ye that's why I play FF Brave Exvius instead of this one.

Papa Zito · Post Post #69 (isolation #8) » Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:56 pm

Stay classy mafiascum.

VOTE: Desperado

Papa Zito · Post Post #83 (isolation #9) » Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:13 pm

Ok that kind of shit isn't gonna do you any favors.

Papa Zito · Post Post #86 (isolation #10) » Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:16 pm

That kind.

Papa Zito · Post Post #103 (isolation #11) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:12 am

In post 100, Boonskiies wrote:@Super - why are you so play putting him to L-1 page 4? This wagon has scum on it, even if Dunn ends up being scum.

VOTE: Super

If Dunn ends up being scum who cares how many scum are on the wagon?

Papa Zito · Post Post #113 (isolation #12) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 4:06 am

In post 108, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 103, Papa Zito wrote:
In post 100, Boonskiies wrote:@Super - why are you so play putting him to L-1 page 4? This wagon has scum on it, even if Dunn ends up being scum.

VOTE: Super
If Dunn ends up being scum who cares how many scum are on the wagon?

Sure, a scum lynch is good no matter what, but my point i've been trying to make is why waste information given for page 5. Scum is coasting, and if he flips town, we just got screwed out of a lot of info because of a quick lynch.

So are scum coasting or are they on the wagon?

Papa Zito · Post Post #116 (isolation #13) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 4:09 am

Is it weird to "pop a vote and disappear" less than 24 hours into a conversation?

Papa Zito · Post Post #117 (isolation #14) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 4:09 am

Where conversation = game because multitasking is hard.

Papa Zito · Post Post #122 (isolation #15) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 4:12 am

In post 118, Boonskiies wrote:Work with me for a second, Papa. Other than Desperado who you are voting for, do you have any scum reads from any of the main wagons, which are/were Dunn, Fro99er, and now seemingly Superhans.

I'm sorry, are you seriously asking if I've developed solid scumreads on page 5?

Papa Zito · Post Post #130 (isolation #16) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 4:17 am

In post 124, Boonskiies wrote:It's page 5...work with me man. I'm trying to start conversation and change off of our irrelevant conversation.

I'm not sure what makes our conversation "irrelevant" as I'm currently trying to worm into your head but sure. I've seen 3 scummish things so far.

1. Gamma's counterwagon comment when there was no counterwagon in existence.
2. Desperado's jump onto Gamma
3. Your complete and total overreaction to the game state.

None of this is worth much.

Papa Zito · Post Post #133 (isolation #17) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 5:00 am

Post 45.

Boonskiies are you gonna do something with this info I typically don't share or what.

Papa Zito · Post Post #136 (isolation #18) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 5:07 am

In post 135, Vifam wrote:I wouldn't really call any of it scummy tho, maybe Gamma's counterwagon thing but other then that

Sure, which is why I'm ????? to this line of questioning but I'm playing along to see where it goes.

Papa Zito · Post Post #138 (isolation #19) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 5:46 am

Arrite I misread, strike that one from the list.

PROGRESS

Papa Zito · Post Post #167 (isolation #20) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:36 am

@Cabd:

Can you please update the roster etc in the first post?

I stg I don't know who the hell is in this game anymore.

Papa Zito · Post Post #173 (isolation #21) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:47 am

In post 170, Cabd wrote:
In post 167, Papa Zito wrote:
@Cabd:
Can you please update the roster etc in the first post?

I stg I don't know who the hell is in this game anymore.

Yeah, sorry I didn't do that already; it's fixed now.

Thank you sir.

Papa Zito · Post Post #194 (isolation #22) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:37 am

This is the worst page.

Papa Zito · Post Post #195 (isolation #23) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:37 am

I've got nothing else to do.

In post 186, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 83, Papa Zito wrote:Ok that kind of shit isn't gonna do you any favors.
This was a really scummy post

Why is this a scummy post?

Papa Zito · Post Post #246 (isolation #24) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:22 am

In post 242, Dunnstral wrote:This game is missing something

I think we're having a hard time driving stuff forward

THAT'S WHY STARTING TOMORROW I'll start making big posts talking about what's happened

This is exactly where I'm at.

I look forward to Big Posts..

Papa Zito · Post Post #262 (isolation #25) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:37 pm

Ok I can join that.

VOTE: ThinkBig

@Cabd:

Can you please prod Malachite, she's been gone for over 48 hours.

Papa Zito · Post Post #279 (isolation #26) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:03 am

Gamma help me.

Papa Zito · Post Post #283 (isolation #27) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:40 am

Vax, why are you willing to lynch Gamma?

In post 280, Gammagooey wrote:I like my Vax vote a little better than voting ThinkBig but if you want me to move over I can do that too.

I'm not asking you to move your vote. Consolidation needs to happen soon tho.

I have basically no reads with 7 days to deadline in a large theme. I'm very ????? at this situation.

Papa Zito · Post Post #289 (isolation #28) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:09 am

In post 286, Gammagooey wrote:
In post 78, Vaxkiller wrote:I was going to vote Gif, but Dunn replacing Frie Assassin?

VOTE: Dunn

actually I remember this post being weird.

Vax I'd appreciate if you could share your thought process here.

Papa Zito · Post Post #291 (isolation #29) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:15 am

How is 78 a shitpost when there's a vote involved?

Papa Zito · Post Post #293 (isolation #30) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:20 am

No but a decision was made there. You were going to vote GiF, but you voted Dunn instead. Why?

Papa Zito · Post Post #306 (isolation #31) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:42 am

In post 294, Vaxkiller wrote:
In post 292, Vaxkiller wrote:Because at that point I had no reasons to vote Fire or Dunn
or gif for that matter. Just randomly chose that name.

As far as why? If you would been watching over the shoulder type that post out and ask why I did that? I would have responded, why not?

Ok.

Given current gamestate (aka you're the only vote on Dunn) and given our timeline (7 days to deadline) and given your reasons behind the vote to begin with (aka none) why are you still there?

Papa Zito · Post Post #308 (isolation #32) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:59 am

I take it you don't buy his responses then.

Papa Zito · Post Post #325 (isolation #33) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:19 am

Yeah same. Not at all interested in that slot.

Papa Zito · Post Post #346 (isolation #34) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:55 am

How is this in any way relevant to anything.

Papa Zito · Post Post #369 (isolation #35) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:19 am

In post 367, Brian Skies wrote:I hope Prince Lyon was prodded.

@Super: In what way? You're just using this discussion as an excuse to increase your post count and look busy.

do we have a vig

Papa Zito · Post Post #372 (isolation #36) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:22 am

oh Brian

Papa Zito · Post Post #384 (isolation #37) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:57 am

What the hell does that mean

Papa Zito · Post Post #403 (isolation #38) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:55 pm

Dunnstral you are vastly overestimating your presence in this game.

Papa Zito · Post Post #423 (isolation #39) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:05 am

In post 415, Aj The Epic wrote:The run up on Vax seems really forced, which is strange because the runup on Dunnstral was done really well.

Hallo AJ can you expand on this plz

Papa Zito · Post Post #426 (isolation #40) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:19 am

In post 425, Cabd wrote:well if you insist

stop being so good at this

Papa Zito · Post Post #432 (isolation #41) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:12 am

oh my god it's beautiful

Papa Zito · Post Post #439 (isolation #42) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:18 am

In post 434, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 432, Papa Zito wrote:oh my god it's beautiful
Hopefully that post will suffice in response to you pages ago.

I actually need to parse through it but I love the pretty colors!

Papa Zito · Post Post #452 (isolation #43) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:30 am

In post 450, Cabd wrote:Pagetops: official currency of 2018

holy hell

Papa Zito · Post Post #463 (isolation #44) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:44 am

In post 458, Vifam wrote:Super/Frogger/Boon are all town I think idk about the rest of you

Talk to me about Froggy.

Papa Zito · Post Post #465 (isolation #45) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:52 am

Ok fair.

Papa Zito · Post Post #509 (isolation #46) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:14 am

In post 429, Boonskiies wrote:
Dunnstral
- I can see everything he's been saying from a town perspective, but I can also REALLY see everything he's doing from a scum perspective. I actually really dislike his stances here, as he has a high count for lynch candidates, and he doesn't take a definitive stance anywhere, even setting himself up in a position where he can change his townier reads into a scum read on a whim. Because of multiball, I still think scum was on his wagon, but I will ignore that until more info has been revealed. I find it funny how I was trying to stop this wagon earlier only to come to this. Blinded by the potential quick lynch, I guess.

Boonskiies can you go into more detail here please?

Papa Zito · Post Post #515 (isolation #47) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:59 am

Is there something inherently scummy about having a lot of suspects?

I'm also interested in the phrase "he doesn't take a definitive stance anywhere"

Papa Zito · Post Post #518 (isolation #48) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:35 am

He pretty clearly lists only 4 out of 15 players he wants to vote today no?

Papa Zito · Post Post #521 (isolation #49) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:42 am

sigh

VOTE: Chara

Papa Zito · Post Post #542 (isolation #50) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:04 pm

You have but honestly I feel like that reasoning is weak. None of my town reads are currently so strong that I'd be unwilling to swap if needs be, especially without flips and wagons to look at. That post he laid out his 4 top scumreads with reasoning (albeit poor) and also gave a few townreads. shrug

Papa Zito · Post Post #555 (isolation #51) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:58 pm

In post 551, Vifam wrote:Guess who got the pagetop

very strong play

Papa Zito · Post Post #558 (isolation #52) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:12 pm

I didn't like 503.

Papa Zito · Post Post #560 (isolation #53) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:32 pm

Chara's only mention of Vax is the "I was hoping for a snappy response" which honestly doesn't make sense, and then the walkback we've been talking about. Prior to that post Vax makes a series of posts that I actually quite like so I can't imagine what would result in the super softball "could also vote Vax" when Chara'd spent what little energy's been put into the game on an entirely different set of people.

Papa Zito · Post Post #670 (isolation #54) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:27 am

In post 655, Not Chara wrote:what don't you like about me scumreading someone i hadn't interacted very much with?

The vote came out of nowhere. I didn't see a progression towards that read anywhere.

i didn't like the series of posts. Vax would be a nullscum read, and i didn't like his Dunn vote either.

What specifically didn't you like? (If you already answered this just link it)

Papa Zito · Post Post #677 (isolation #55) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:09 am

Oh my god that iso why aren't we wagoning this.

VOTE: PeregrineV

Papa Zito · Post Post #679 (isolation #56) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:22 am

Ok guys this is the first wagon I'm actually gonna campaign for.

choochoo all aboard we finally got something good let's gooooo

Papa Zito · Post Post #681 (isolation #57) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:25 am

preflip associations are garbage too

Papa Zito · Post Post #688 (isolation #58) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:51 am

In post 686, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 677, Papa Zito wrote:Oh my god that iso why aren't we wagoning this.

VOTE: PeregrineV

I'd actually prefer you to hammer me, if we get that far.

oh ho ho nice

Papa Zito · Post Post #693 (isolation #59) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:14 am

oh hey cabd how's it going

Papa Zito · Post Post #703 (isolation #60) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:47 am

Vax help a brother out.

Papa Zito · Post Post #707 (isolation #61) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:03 am

I'm scumreading PV a lot more.

Papa Zito · Post Post #713 (isolation #62) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:24 am

In post 711, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 707, Papa Zito wrote:I'm scumreading PV a lot more.
It's mutual, so that's good.

I'm not on the other team sorry :3

Papa Zito · Post Post #731 (isolation #63) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:55 pm

Gamma I feel you but I need your help over here.

Papa Zito · Post Post #745 (isolation #64) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:17 pm

I'm parsing that claim.

In post 732, Vifam wrote:Why do you think PV is scummy

Read his iso prior to my post.

Papa Zito · Post Post #749 (isolation #65) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:24 pm

In post 1, Cabd wrote:10. The town faction is guaranteed at least one 5-star hero. In the event town rolls no five star heroes; a player will be randomly chosen to be upgraded before role PMs are sent.

This is all I see on factions and guarantees.

Papa Zito · Post Post #750 (isolation #66) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:24 pm

TB why did you choose red?

Papa Zito · Post Post #759 (isolation #67) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:27 pm

In post 751, Vifam wrote:Oh ok so TB is town

really? how do you figure

Papa Zito · Post Post #764 (isolation #68) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:30 pm

In post 755, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 750, Papa Zito wrote:TB why did you choose red?
Because red is my favorite color. Never really played fire emblem before so I just randomly picked and chose my favorite color.

What were your other choices?

Papa Zito · Post Post #768 (isolation #69) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:44 pm

Thanks Gamma.

My concern is that he was so ready to claim. A town player knows he's possibly (probably?) our only 5-star but he seemed almost eager to get that claim out instead of addressing concerns or just getting to work figuring out the game. Couple all this with a claim that isn't really testable and well.

Papa Zito · Post Post #786 (isolation #70) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 3:03 am

Can someone in this goddamn game be town

please

?? It's a open setup I know you fucking exist.

Papa Zito · Post Post #788 (isolation #71) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:51 am

In post 787, Fro99er wrote:I hopped on.

it's a frog joke

I get it

Papa Zito · Post Post #791 (isolation #72) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:52 am

If you'd help me on my wagon I'll give you a dollar

Think of all the flies you could get for a dollar.

Papa Zito · Post Post #795 (isolation #73) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:54 am

PV is my wagon.

It's better because I'm on it.

Papa Zito · Post Post #801 (isolation #74) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:00 am

They're not town bad.

Papa Zito · Post Post #803 (isolation #75) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:14 am

I'm not gonna cry over a Not Chara corpse.

Papa Zito · Post Post #806 (isolation #76) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:03 am

I honestly don't believe his claim but there's not a lot I can do about it.

Also why did you abandon me

Papa Zito · Post Post #811 (isolation #77) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:15 am

In post 810, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 808, Desperado wrote:lmao thinkbig is probably scum

he literally claimed 15 hours ago

not chara and GIF haven't even posted since
Why do you think I am scum? Also, with a claim such as mine, the other scum team would probably try to kill me if I am scum.

Except you literally just claimed to be unkillable.

Papa Zito · Post Post #816 (isolation #78) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:29 am

In post 744, ThinkBig wrote:But basically yeah, I'm essentially impossible to kill

I'm just using your words.

Can you explain your early game before your absence?

Papa Zito · Post Post #826 (isolation #79) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:51 am

In post 817, ThinkBig wrote:Sure. What do you want me to explain?

Your lack of presence essentially. In order to make your role even somewhat viable to town you need to act as an NK sponge, but without a mechanic to force the issue your only way to accomplish that is to be the biggest townread in the land and essentially force one or both scumteams to take a shot at you. I don't see this in your early play at all.

You knew (I assume?) that you were going to have an extended absence come up during Day 1, which means you had limited time to accomplish this (and then pick back up when you returned). So what happened.

Papa Zito · Post Post #833 (isolation #80) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:07 am

good grief

Papa Zito · Post Post #840 (isolation #81) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:13 am

In post 827, ThinkBig wrote:If I understand my role correctly, it is basically s combination of ascetic+bulletproof with an option of turning that off and being able to roleblocke a player. The claim can be tested by having a PR (vig?) visit me tonight. They won't get any results if my ability is left on.

I don't have any confirmed vigs to send your way unfortunately. Not to mention it doesn't prove the roleblocker aspect.

I dunno. I don't like how you played early, even if it was because you were busy. I don't like how eager you were to claim instead of just playing your way out of the situation especially since you're claiming to have much more free time because that kills any town utility you had. I don't like your answer to my color question and I don't like your dodge about the other options. Since as town you're essentially VT but as scum you're still a super strong role plus there's been some interesting reactions to your claim I'd still like to see your flip.

Papa Zito · Post Post #873 (isolation #82) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:46 am

In post 857, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 803, Papa Zito wrote:I'm not gonna cry over a Not Chara corpse.
Are you sure? Your vote for me came after I voted her.

I'm not sure how that's relevant to anything.

Papa Zito · Post Post #876 (isolation #83) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:56 am

In post 874, Cabd wrote:WHEEEEEE

I feel like this is cheating.

Papa Zito · Post Post #889 (isolation #84) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:59 am

In post 884, Aj The Epic wrote:There's also no counterclaim to his assertion as a 5-star role, which we know town has 1 of. I'm fairly certain there's a possibility of more but the roll percentage of a 5 star is low enough to expect no more than 1. AKA his claim is basically true unless counterclaimed.

Though I probably wouldn't have claimed the "can be killed by strongman" part.....

Congratulations. In a game that's essentially an allegory for pain, suffering and loss you've managed to make the worst post in the thread.

In post 886, Fro99er wrote:I think it was Zito who gave meta

Papa Zito · Post Post #899 (isolation #85) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:57 am

In post 893, Vifam wrote:Yeah there's no reason to lynch TB today tbh

so you see the only-lynchable roleblocker as a town role then

Papa Zito · Post Post #903 (isolation #86) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:06 am

In post 901, Vifam wrote:
In post 899, Papa Zito wrote:
In post 893, Vifam wrote:Yeah there's no reason to lynch TB today tbh
so you see the only-lynchable roleblocker as a town role then
I don't see how it's useful to town tbh

And yet simultaneously there's no reason to lynch it today.

Papa Zito · Post Post #925 (isolation #87) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:00 am

In post 915, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 912, Superhans wrote:
In post 843, Superhans wrote:ThinkBig tell me what colour your orbs were.
THINKBIG

can you answer this for me please.

if you have forgotten check your inbox.
Unfortunately I deleted the message by accident.

guys

Papa Zito · Post Post #948 (isolation #88) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:36 am

VOTE: ThinkBig

Papa Zito · Post Post #953 (isolation #89) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:38 am

In post 951, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 948, Papa Zito wrote:VOTE: ThinkBig
^Opportunistic vote, thy name is Papa Zito

I've explained at length why I don't believe your claim. GTFO with that nonsense.

Papa Zito · Post Post #959 (isolation #90) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:46 am

Maybe it does matter.

Papa Zito · Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:30 am

In post 1006, ThinkBig wrote:I claimed early because:
1. There was a wagon on me for being inactive and
2. It may have taken a few hours in order for me to catch up.

You thought someone was going to wait for you to post that you were back and reading before they were going to hammer you? You literally thought you had less than a couple hours to live when nobody declared intent to hammer?

Papa Zito · Post Post #1019 (isolation #92) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 3:24 pm

In post 1015, GuyInFreezer wrote:let's QL him so he has more time to celebrate without having to worry about this game.

What a nice gift.

Papa Zito · Post Post #1033 (isolation #93) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:15 pm

In post 1029, ThinkBig wrote:You don't consider l-4 to be pressure?

is this real life

Papa Zito · Post Post #1059 (isolation #94) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:14 am

Cabd please PM me your Paypal details so I can purchase one (1) vig shot thanks.

Papa Zito · Post Post #1065 (isolation #95) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:40 am

Hans you're a bro and I'm glad you're in this game.

Papa Zito · Post Post #1073 (isolation #96) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:00 am

You've got to be kidding

Papa Zito · Post Post #1078 (isolation #97) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:03 am

I am 100% with you on this ok. I will help you wagon the shit out of him tomorrow.

But today the death gods demand ThinkBig.

Papa Zito · Post Post #1081 (isolation #98) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:23 am

Gamma get in here.

Papa Zito · Post Post #1083 (isolation #99) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:27 am

Are you asking why I'd rather lynch the otherwise unkillable roleblocker?

Papa Zito · Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:38 am

In post 1084, Gammagooey wrote:
Papa Zito wrote:Gamma get in here.
In post 1081, Papa Zito wrote:Gamma get in here.
i'm around but i still have like 30 min before i can do more than bounce back between this and other stuff, whatcha need

Vote thinkbig so we can get a hammer and I can start transferring funds for vig shots.

Papa Zito · Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:57 am

In post 1087, Vifam wrote:
In post 1083, Papa Zito wrote:Are you asking why I'd rather lynch the otherwise unkillable roleblocker?
Yes

I think he has a higher chance of flipping scum.

Papa Zito · Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:29 am

In post 1094, Brian Skies wrote:Looks like the AJ wagon still has a chance.

Tomorrow I promise.

Papa Zito · Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:16 am

Am I gonna have to start throwing a hissy fit here or something.

Papa Zito · Sun Feb 26, 2017 8:33 am

I'm not gonna be able to read up until tomorrow, sorry guys. Weekends are always tough for me.

Papa Zito · Mon Feb 27, 2017 7:41 am

Ok, I'm caught up.

I think we need to clear up the whole Not Chara dance with a noose today. From the iso my opinion is that he wasn't buddies with Dunn or PV. Beyond that he didn't leave much else. But the Prince Lyon/Not Chara stuff really stands out. Chara's completely unprompted roleblock claim stinks.

VOTE: Not Chara

Papa Zito · Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:08 am

In post 1228, Gammagooey wrote:I will admittedly be not horrifically shocked if NC turns out to be scum, but please read over what I just said about PV and give me your opinion on it? Like I really think that the type of pushing to impose and imply opinions on the game instead of convincing people is way more likely to be coming from scum and as much as meta is garbage there's another instance of him specifically doing it as scum too.

I did, and it's meta. ITT PV's interactions with our flipped scum make them appear to be at odds. My focus for now is to kill off one scumteam to lower the potential body count.

Papa Zito · Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:10 am

aka you could be right but if he's scum he's on the other team

Papa Zito · Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:50 am

The thing I like about Dunnstral is that he isn't afraid to take strong, controversial stances.

Papa Zito · Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:02 am

I have a p good feeling that Gamma is town ye.

Papa Zito · Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:07 am

I agree. Which is why I'm being more forthcoming in my town reads, I feel like we're going to lose if we don't figure out a solid town core.

Papa Zito · Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:17 am

Why do you think we're wrong about Chara?

Papa Zito · Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:21 am

Does it help if you know Prince Lyon = Not Chara?

Papa Zito · Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:27 am

In post 1265, Aj The Epic wrote:I'm not sure if focusing Brian Skiies' teammate even makes much sense given the situation. Solo scum has to play like an SK from D2 onwards and has to focus to eliminate the other scum to have a chance to win. Other scum team has to take care of a night kill role. It'd probably be more advantageous to snake out someone like PV who's probably on the other scum team.

Ah yes. This guy still needs bullets. Thanks for the reminder.

Papa Zito · Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:36 am

Oh frogger is a townread too, forgot to mention.

Papa Zito · Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:43 am

Dammit cabd.

In post 1274, Dunnstral wrote:So no it doesn't mean anything to me, am I missing something?

I think you are. Start here: viewtopic.php?p=8869733#p8869733

Papa Zito · Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:59 am

In post 1280, Dunnstral wrote:So we're voting not chara solely on something brian did?

really?

Papa Zito · Mon Feb 27, 2017 1:58 pm

Wait why is boonskies at the bottom of your list?

Papa Zito · Mon Feb 27, 2017 5:47 pm

In post 1331, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1329, Vaxkiller wrote:Leave despardo off your wheel this time.

It's decided. doing another color wheel and desp shall not be colored.

dats racist

Papa Zito · Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:02 am

We're running low on time.

In post 1316, Desperado wrote:he's...scum?

No but why.

Papa Zito · Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:27 am

In post 1341, Not Chara wrote:
In post 1264, Papa Zito wrote:Does it help if you know Prince Lyon = Not Chara?
is this some way of saying my predecessor is a reason to scumread me?

Partner, not predecessor.

Papa Zito · Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:37 am

In post 1343, Not Chara wrote:VOTE: Papa Zito
i want to find the player on my wagon with the best shot pf acyually getting wagoned after me. this one is it.

why
does the roleblock claim stink, Zito? you used it as a springboard to vote off of, which i'm sure was convenient for you. what's my scum agenda in claiming that?

the only way this consensus wagon on me makes sense is if you all yhink i'm Brian's partner. what justifies that thinking? that Brian would openly defend me when two other players were doing that work for me?

In post 1344, Not Chara wrote:uh, no. predecessor. i replaced Lyon, you just said that. what does this mean?

It stinks because it was unprompted. You didn't get run up, you just opened the day with "oh hi I'm a power role" like this is good play or something. So I have to ask myself, "Self, why did this player decide to declare they were a power role in the thread?" Given the events of the night (a flipped scum + you were targeted by someone) and your previous day's play (weak/scummy) the best conclusion I could reach was that you were attempting to deflect suspicion away from yourself ("don't bug me guys I'm a PR").

FTR I don't need anything "convenient" to vote you. I'm not shy voting for people or pushing a lynch I believe in.

Also: Uh, no, partner. I've actually linked directly to the extremely odd shenanigans involving our flipped scum and your slot. I guess you aren't actually reading the game.

Papa Zito · Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:38 am

In post 1351, Desperado wrote:@ zito: i don't really care if you don't understand it, i've explained it more than once. explaining it again isn't going to ~magically~ make you get it.

Link me to your explanations please.

Papa Zito · Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:46 am

In post 1356, Desperado wrote:@ zito: iso me and ctrl+f boon

i honestly don't know how you don't know why i think he's scum??? i haven't been shy about it

I don't know why you've decided to be a giant aggressive asshole today but sure.

Reading through your iso I see scattered potshots at boonskies for not living up to some sort of internal posting standard and you didn't like his reads list. Wow. How the fuck did I manage to miss this gem of a read.

Papa Zito · Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:58 am

In post 1357, Not Chara wrote:can i claim now? you know Vax is itching to votw me, and i'd rather not wait for someone else to vote at one day remaining, when there isn't enough time to move.

Why acknowledge the lack of time and not be shy of claiming at the start of the day but suddenly start shuffling your feet about it now.

It looks like you just completely agreed with my read on your actions there so I'm curious why your vote is still on me.

Also why are you asking Desp questions when he's a solid townread?

Your play continues to make me ??? but fuck me maybe that's the norm these days and I'm just a stranger in a strange land.

Papa Zito · Tue Feb 28, 2017 5:12 am

In post 1365, Desperado wrote:
In post 1359, Papa Zito wrote:
In post 1356, Desperado wrote:@ zito: iso me and ctrl+f boon

i honestly don't know how you don't know why i think he's scum??? i haven't been shy about it
I don't know why you've decided to be a giant aggressive asshole today but sure.

Reading through your iso I see scattered potshots at boonskies for not living up to some sort of internal posting standard and you didn't like his reads list. Wow. How the fuck did I manage to miss this gem of a read.
didn't we already establish that you don't understand the read?

and i'm not being aggressive or an asshole, i just don't care to repeat myself in a text based game that has multiple tools at your disposal to answer your question

There's nothing in your iso that answers my question. Nothing points to why you have such a hardon for boonskies and why he's hated and why he must die nownownow. The failure is on your part to communicate not on mine to understand. Being a dick and making words ~magical~ doesn't help your cause.

Papa Zito · Tue Feb 28, 2017 5:14 am

In post 1364, Not Chara wrote:
In post 1361, Papa Zito wrote:Also why are you asking Desp questions when he's a solid townread?
because i want to know if and why i'm wrong for not townreading Vifam.

ok

and i asked if i could claim now because i want there to still be time left in the day when i do, i already said that. and that claiming earlier was a mistake. i'm not thickheaded enough to repeat shitty actions that get me scumread a second time in the same game.

Context matters.

Papa Zito · Tue Feb 28, 2017 5:54 am

In post 1371, Desperado wrote:False, you just don't agree with why I have a hard on for boon. There's a difference. If me not feeling compelled to quote my own posts when you are perfectly capable of accessing them yourself makes me a dick then so be it.

I certainly don't and you've done a terrific job of not convincing me of your case here. Have fun grandstanding instead of actually getting him lynched I guess!

P.S. I asked for a link :3

Papa Zito · Tue Feb 28, 2017 6:25 am

is this real life

Papa Zito · Tue Feb 28, 2017 6:36 am

In post 1414, Not Chara wrote:i wish scum would kill me. i'm a tracker/watcher, i targeted Brian Skies.

sigh

This isn't how you claim. You give us role name, stars, etc etc etc. You tell us who you targeted, with what, and why. Don't dole it out bit by bit please.

Papa Zito · Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:28 am

whoooooosh

Gamma my vote is yours tomorrow bud, we'll do w/e you want.

Papa Zito · Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:31 am

In post 1452, Desperado wrote:
In post 1443, Not Chara wrote:i believe my shot would have been spent had i targeted an ascetic, or someone otherwise investigation-immune.
but since i was roleblocked (prevented from acting), i never used it in the first place, thus keeping the shot.
It makes no sense to refund your shot if you got roleblocked, at all.

FTR I wouldn't make this assumption. It's entirely possible that roleblocked shots get refunded in this particular game.

Papa Zito · Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:42 am

In post 1465, Desperado wrote:and what is the purpose of vax's role if shots are just refunded willy nilly?

If I were a one-shot vig

and I successfully got a shot off

and someone could reload my gun again

I would be the happiest man

Papa Zito · Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:46 am

I think it is too. I believe the roleblock as well.

My issue is that the claimed target is dead and is inconsistent with the iso. Reading over Chara's day 1 I would've expected a watch on hans.

pedit: Vifam check pronouns

Papa Zito · Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:49 am

If you aren't blocked then your shot is used.

duh

Papa Zito · Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:51 am

sigh

No, we have two players who have been informed that their action didn't work and got a refund. Their

assumption

is they were roleblocked.

Papa Zito · Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:53 am

In post 1485, Desperado wrote:and that is an incredibly poor assumption given natural action resolution and the nature of one-shot roles

... it is?

Papa Zito · Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:54 am

(again, plz check pronouns)

Papa Zito · Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:56 am

In post 1492, Desperado wrote:and if you're wondering what the point of all of this is, i don't think it's a reasonable assumption as a town one-shot PR to think that you were blocked AND that you still have your shot

so if you were informed that you still have your shot, you should be thinking of other reasons why your action didn't complete

Ok. Like what.

Papa Zito · Tue Feb 28, 2017 8:01 am

In post 1497, Desperado wrote:what don't you understand zito?

I understand everything. I'm asking you for your alternative explanation. If roleblocks don't refund shots then what scenario does?

Papa Zito · Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:02 am

Good morning friends.

Papa Zito · Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:53 am

You're the oddest juxtaposition of reasonable and unreasonable I've ever seen.

Papa Zito · Wed Mar 01, 2017 5:06 am

still not she :/

Papa Zito · Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:20 am

It's the

0 presence/awfully iffy Day 1 Not Chara + Insanity Day 2 Not Chara
vs
The extremely sincere sounding Right Now Not Chara

which has sent me in a bit of a tailspin over your slot

Papa Zito · Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:25 am

In post 1579, PeregrineV wrote:Wednesday post.

I mean do people like this get to live instead

My check cleared where's my dayvig shot mannnnn

Papa Zito · Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:42 am

Yes that's an extremely plausible scenario.

Regardless of how much I dislike how the vast majority of the town is playing rn and how much better Not Chara looks in comparison

just by being active

the problem is I can't let them anywhere near lylo after these shenanigans and so here we are.

Papa Zito · Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:06 am

In post 1590, Not Chara wrote:then don't let me near lylo. give me one more night. i'll probably be roleblocked again, or maybe scum used their only shot night one.

Honestly the requests for one more night gives me the heebie-jeebies. (it's a scientific term)

I wouldn't shed a tear lynching either GiF or Aj. I think both have excellent probabilities of being scum.

In post 1592, Not Chara wrote:process of elimination says the scum on my wagon is gammagooey.

I really think Gamma's town this game. Hopefully that's not just nostalgia talking.

sigh

Gamma what do you think here?

Papa Zito · Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:08 am

I don't negotiate with terrorists.

Papa Zito · Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:13 am

I'll give you a hint on the first bit. Read why I'm voting Not Chara.

On the 2nd bit: you're an idiot.

I hope this helps.

Papa Zito · Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:16 am

In post 1600, Aj The Epic wrote:Ok question time, if I'm not Chara's scummate, why even out that Chara's shot could be refunded? Why not let it die that much easier?

I don't think this is English.

Papa Zito · Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:28 am

It sure looks like Not Chara is gonna get lynched regardless of your contribution and if that is the mechanic it's going to come out eventually anyway so why not claim some credit now?

Papa Zito · Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:30 am

to wit: I don't think your decision had anything to do with Not Chara at all

Papa Zito · Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:19 pm

In post 1611, Boonskiies wrote:I'm aware, Papa, that you just posted your reasoning, but what's wrong with being iffy day 1? Also, I don't see insanity in her posts toDay.

someone stop the ride I wanna get off

Please review our flipped scum's interactions with the NC slot.

Papa Zito · Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:42 pm

.... from the literal scum player?

Papa Zito · Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:58 am

In post 1624, Not Chara wrote:just lynch Aj and GiF after i die, would you?

Yep this is the plan. Aj trying to introduce a lot of white noise is ringing all the alarm bells.

Papa Zito · Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:42 am

In post 1631, Cabd wrote:
Votecount 2-10
GuyInFreezer (4): Dunnstral, Not Chara, PeregrineV, Boonskiies
Not Chara (6): Desperado, Fro99er, Vifam, Papa Zito, Gammagooey, Vaxkiller

With 12 players alive, it will take 7 votes to lynch/no lynch.
Not Voting (2): Aj The Epic, GuyInFreezer

Deadline for Day Two is: (expired on 2017-03-04 16:48:05)

A fire begins to burn...

I think this votecount will be very important later.

Papa Zito · Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:21 am

In post 1645, Fro99er wrote:PZ talk to me about this plan if you're in here.

I think there's a couple good reasons to lynch GIF over Chara. The lease of which Vax brings up that if Chara is town both sucm factions will want it dead at night and if Chara is scum the other scum faction will still want it dead at night.

I'm not opposed to this. I just don't want Chara to slide into the shadows again.

Papa Zito · Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:28 am

Alright.

VOTE: GiF

Papa Zito · Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:02 am

Clearly someone used a day power and clearly it's in the town's favor so clearly we shouldn't be fishing.

tia

also if the town could actually start playing that'd be gr8

Papa Zito · Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:29 am

In post 1666, Not Chara wrote:i wish GiF had reacted to his wagon at all.

I wish GiF had done anything this game at all.

I wish more than 4 people would post.

I wish a lot of things!

Papa Zito · Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:41 am

I don't think character has anything to do with alignment.

tia = thanks in advance

Papa Zito · Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:10 am

I need a pile of dead AJs and Charas first.

God I wish I was a vig in this game I'd be doing SO MUCH WORK

Papa Zito · Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:09 am

In post 1686, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1679, Papa Zito wrote:I need a pile of dead AJs and Charas first.

God I wish I was a vig in this game I'd be doing SO MUCH WORK
I might be willing to lynch aj. Not Chara

uh

is that "I might be willing to lynch aj. and Not Chara"
or
"I might be willing to lynch aj. Not Not Chara"

Papa Zito · Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:16 am

I think it's pretty clear now that GiF was the townie counterwagon. We're lynching Chara today.

actually just for fun

VOTE: Not Chara

does this do anything

Papa Zito · Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:16 am

jfc let me post

Papa Zito · Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:20 am

aight then

Papa Zito · Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:49 am

You'd set up a bus on your one and only partner with unknown town power and another scumteam out there?

Brave.

Papa Zito · Thu Mar 02, 2017 5:21 pm

Huh???????????????

Papa Zito · Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:07 am

Internal consistency is overrated.

Papa Zito · Fri Mar 03, 2017 4:11 am

Chara's likely scum regardless of wagon composition but sure.

Papa Zito · Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:21 am

The wagon on you built agonizingly slowly and couldn't quiiiiiiite make it quite to the fabled mountaintop. Yet GiF was lynched within seconds. This is despite there being far more evidence favoring a Not Chara lynch over a Gif lynch.

Therefore I call shenanigans.

Could you be Brian Skies partner? Absolutely, for reasons stated in the thread. Could you be on the other team? Absolutely, for claim reasons plus the new information via Day 2 wagons. Does your slot's ability to be on either scum team make you my absolutely #1 favorite lynch of all time? Boy howdy.

Throwing shade at me doesn't change any of this.

Papa Zito · Fri Mar 03, 2017 4:24 pm

boonskies can I get an updated rainbow thing plz

Papa Zito · Sun Mar 05, 2017 4:24 pm

I'll read up tomorrow.

Papa Zito · Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:57 am

ok done

In post 1831, Not Chara wrote:hold on, i need to read what actually happened at night.

Did you get a chance to do this?

Papa Zito · Mon Mar 06, 2017 4:31 am

@Vax: I'm not typically around on weekends.

In post 1915, Not Chara wrote:i don't like that Aj was the one to 'catch' Peregrine here.

I don't either. The fact he claimed the refund gives credence that he tried to do

something

N1 but I'm still bothered that he claimed it unprompted and I don't like anything in his posting history. So I'm not quite sure what to do with his claim. It doesn't help that PV isn't posting though.

Papa Zito · Mon Mar 06, 2017 4:45 am

In post 1918, Vifam wrote:It's either

1. Scum no killed
2. Frogger and both scum teams all targeted the same person
3.All scum targeted Frogger?
4. PV is scum

5. Unclaimed doc
6. Some kind of redirect
7. Some kind of bulletproof
etc

I'd like to understand your AJ read as well because I really don't share it.

Papa Zito · Mon Mar 06, 2017 4:47 am

That's fair, and I'm perfectly willing to wait for him to come back before doing anything.

Papa Zito · Mon Mar 06, 2017 4:49 am

In post 1929, Vifam wrote:AJ's D2 posting felt pretty town

the arguments for him being scum aren't really that convincing either

Which D2 posts did you feel were town? And what arguments aren't convincing?

Papa Zito · Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:02 am

In post 1934, Gammagooey wrote:yeah literally everyone but PV's been here at this point, and *most* things that would suggest an alternate reason for things other than AJ jailkept PVscum should and almost certainly would have been claimed by now

You'd expect a doctor or bulletproof to claim when a jailkeeper already claimed a block thus throwing their action into doubt instead of keeping to the shadows and continuing to work? In a game with 2 scumteams?

Papa Zito · Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:27 am

The main theme I've picked up from this game is Where Is My Town. If you meant something else there I missed it.

We're at 7-2-1 and I'm not super stoked by this claim so I'm worried we're going rapidly downhill from here. I don't trust AJ more than I trust my cat and that damn thing got into the bedroom AGAIN this morning so I feel really really really iffy about this claim even though I shouldn't cuz lolmultiball.

I hate multiball now btw god.

Papa Zito · Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:44 am

Something I just realized and I think is important

In post 1848, Vaxkiller wrote:I am responsible for roleblocking EVERYONE on night 1.

This means Brian Skies was definitely a scum crosskill. I'm going to reread things in light of this.

Papa Zito · Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:02 am

In post 1992, Vifam wrote:Seriously Chara is probably redscum

Yeah I'm afraid you're probably correct on this.

VOTE: Not Chara

I'm debating whether massclaim is good or not here. I'm not sure.

Papa Zito · Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:19 am

Gamma is very likely town this game jsyk.

Papa Zito · Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:22 am

In post 1980, Gammagooey wrote:a lone dunn kill is weird as fuck.

I think that was one scum faction trying to target the other.

Papa Zito · Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:38 am

Oh, right. I expect the lack of kill to be due to *rolestuff*. Which rolestuff I dunno.

It's why I'm mulling whether a massclaim is a good idea. Getting that out in the open will help us Solve The Puzzle which will certainly help. But it also really helps inform the rival scumteams on where their shots should go. :/

Papa Zito · Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:28 am

If you're gonna claim then fullclaim.

Papa Zito · Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:34 am

In post 2022, Boonskiies wrote:Night 1, I shot at GIF

Talk to me about this.

Papa Zito · Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:39 am

In post 2028, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 771, Boonskiies wrote:I believe if we have a Vigilante, shooting TB might actually be a good shot because if he's lying, then boom, scum dead. If he's telling the truth, then he's alive and vig doesn't accidentally shoot a townie. If we have a vig, anyways.
I was trying to fish for thoughts on shooting TB that night without outing myself to deal with the TB problem. But then he was lynched.

What? You were on his wagon. If your intention wasn't to lynch him then why were you on his wagon?

Papa Zito · Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:50 am

Why did you decide to shoot night 1 but not night 2 if "didn't know crap/Vig is anti town role in your eyes"

Papa Zito · Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:53 am

In post 2031, Boonskiies wrote:I hammered him. If you check, I was arguing on both sides whether to lynch him or not. Nobody responded to my vig thoughts, either.

No? Gamma voted after you and he hammered himself. Four hundred posts later.

Papa Zito · Wed Mar 08, 2017 3:23 pm

In post 2061, Desperado wrote:So I'm lying about being informed if my one shot is used even tho every other one shot has also been informed if their shot was used?

Lol

A. Those were active abilities
B. That was the result of Vax's global roleblock thing

Papa Zito · Wed Mar 08, 2017 3:25 pm

The good news is someone's lying here. The bad news is neither of them are making any damn sense.

Papa Zito · Wed Mar 08, 2017 3:29 pm

You just tried to gotcha boonskies on bad info.

Papa Zito · Wed Mar 08, 2017 3:37 pm

I'm not interested in having a conversation with an angry brick wall.

Hopefully somebody else maybe can shed some light on this situation maybe?

Papa Zito · Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:24 am

In post 2091, Desperado wrote:So when I ask myself "Self, why would Boon say you're lying about being informed that your one shot has been used even tho that has been the norm in this game" the answer is because he is scum muddying the waters to secure a lynch.

This is completely false. Again, the refund was due to Vax. Refunding one-shots is not "the norm in this game." Which makes your role an outlier.

Papa Zito · Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:50 am

In post 2034, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 2032, Papa Zito wrote:Why did you decide to shoot night 1 but not night 2 if "didn't know crap/Vig is anti town role in your eyes"

I said right before that...like...literally right before that...null reads low activity players are cool.

Also, can we like...focus on the missing night kills? Like actually. I have no scum motivation to claim right here with only one death coming through.

Let me rephrase I guess. Why did "null reads low activity players are cool" apply on night 1 but not on night 2?

Papa Zito · Thu Mar 09, 2017 8:23 am

My issue isn't your targets per se. My issue is an inconsistency with how you used your role. I don't get why someone who was comfortable shooting N1 would suddenly not be comfortable shooting N2 but then would be recomfortable shooting N3. Your explanation doesn't make much sense to me.

In post 1606, Boonskiies wrote:Anywhosies, yeah, I am so against this NC wagon. Like...everything that's being posted for reasons to scum read her I see as pretty townie. There is at least one scum in Gamma, Vax, and Vif.

D2 you weren't around much I agree. However, this was one of your D2 posts. This tells me you were paying attention to the game, enough attention at least to strongly oppose a wagon that was sitting at L-1. You even spent your next several posts that day further defending Not Chara, which is weird to do if you aren't at all caught up. You also mention 3 players you think are scum here, which further cements that you're at least somewhat aware of what was going on.

I'm not buying this.

Papa Zito · Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:49 am

In post 2117, Boonskiies wrote:I was skimming, sure, enough to see the very obvious NC push, which was the majority of the day, how could I miss it even by jut looking at a few posts? If you don't remember, I was town reading NC BEFORE all the shenanigans with Day 2, as my color wheel shows that. The fact that they were saying they got the shot refunded, and people "weren't buying it" solidified her as town in my mind, as it happened to me as well. Why wouldn't I try to defend? And I didn't go as hard to defend them as you are saying I did. All I ended up really doing was voting GIF, then everyone else followed, including Desperado on the hammer even though Vax had already put the intent to hammer without letting GIF speak.

You made multiple posts that day defending Not Chara. I can do a percentage if you'd like. You did hard defend Not Chara, you didn't just vote GiF, stop lying.

Also, if "the majority of the day" was the NC push, and that's all you were commenting on, well by god you were following the thread then weren't you?

Papa Zito · Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:18 am

In post 2128, Vifam wrote:Is it impossible for both Desp and Boon to be town?

Boon claims he shot Desp. Desp claims bulletproof. If that was all it was fine but Desp ALSO claims he gets informed if his one-shot is used and he wasn't informed. So someone is lying here.

Papa Zito · Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:42 am

In post 2133, Boonskiies wrote:you fail to bring up the possibility of me being roleblocked. I felt it was pretty obvious I had a role based on my protection of Aj and NC.

If you getting roleblocked is something you're seriously considering, then

In post 2022, Boonskiies wrote:ahhh heeeellllllll naw.

First of all...
VOTE: Desperado

I'm a 1 shot vig [life and death], and I shot at Desp last night. Night 1, I shot at GIF, but it got refunded, which is why I'm very pro town NC/AJ and didn't really question their roles. And Desp probably going to claim some BP role, but that just doesn't make sense as town with a bodyguard, JK, and a vig? Come on. That's way too much blocked kills for town.

... why did you immediately assume Desp was a BP role?