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FTR, if he paid me back just 10% of that through Paypal, I'd be willing to forget the whole thing.....In post 20, Papa Zito wrote:
This is probably the best RVS vote I've ever seen.In post 18, PeregrineV wrote:Vote: Prince Lyon
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Rhodesia maybe?In post 21, ThinkBig wrote:
Lol.In post 18, PeregrineV wrote:Vote: Prince Lyon
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See? Lawyer Prince? How do you say no?In post 24, Prince Lyon wrote:Hi. Legally I am required to make 'best efforts' to pay my contractual amount.
I made best efforts. Contact me if anything changes :-p
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Dangit! He gets away again!!In post 60, Cabd wrote:Searching for a replacement for Prince Lyon.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.- PeregrineV
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I think you died. I saw a dancing dude when the hammer was dropped on you at L-1.In post 184, Dunnstral wrote:
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Green because he's a frog?In post 315, Boonskiies wrote:Sorry. Had a last minute print job offered today. Basically a prod dodge.
I'm going to give a little hint of how my color wheel is going to start.
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I thought Brian Skies replaced Prince Lyon.In post 367, Brian Skies wrote:I hope Prince Lyon was prodded.
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Not Chara replaced Prince. Not you. Silly.In post 377, Brian Skies wrote:It sure feels like I replaced somebody. :/ God I feel dumb.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.- PeregrineV
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In post 378, Brian Skies wrote:PV, do none of these wagons interest you? Or are you just gonna sit on your Mala vote? Your entire iso is full of jokes with no content and now you're just sitting on a slot that may not even continue to exist in this game.
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I kind of have players I want to sort, but waiting for my sorting hat.
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True. If I even had a scum inkling, it's day1 so I would be chasing it.In post 382, Superhans wrote:
Selfish. If everyone played like that the game would be stuck in perpetual RVS.In post 380, PeregrineV wrote:In post 378, Brian Skies wrote:PV, do none of these wagons interest you? Or are you just gonna sit on your Mala vote? Your entire iso is full of jokes with no content and now you're just sitting on a slot that may not even continue to exist in this game.
No, not really. Still trying to get feels for people.
But, so far, nothing worthwhile.
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Actually they did post. Normally, I'd let it pass, since they didn;t make a content vote, and I would assume you meant that.In post 415, Aj The Epic wrote:Hello! I started reading yesterday as I was in the replacement queue. Finished page 11 this morning. Y'all need more wagons, but I think Chara's a pretty safe bet for town. By most recent VC it seems something has changed but w/e. The run up on Vax seems really forced, which is strange because the runup on Dunnstral was done really well. I think I'm going to look for the differences in those when I finish reading.
Other than that, has Peregrine V contributed anything to this game other than a vote on someone who had yet to post?
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No worries. I think the vote was entirely mediocre, but since I'm aiming for mediocre or better, mission accomplished.In post 428, Aj The Epic wrote:AhHHHH Fucked up
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Nah. If you had replaced into a big ass wagon, you would have either towned it up real quick or started scum flailing.In post 427, Aj The Epic wrote:Obvious slight bias since Malachite is my slot, but malachite really didn't say anything and shouldn't really be a topic of interest for someone with no reads (aka Peregrine). As town, I'd expect him to move to a bigger wagon and try and manufacture reads off reactions. To me his actions make no sense.
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Are you actually discouraging people from making reads lists?In post 438, Desperado wrote:it has nothing to do with my placement on the list because you don't actually have any reads
you spent 2000 words to tell us you had a townread on papa and everyone else can either be town or scum or hasn't posted enough
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Answering since my post was above this one.In post 447, Dunnstral wrote:^So what do you think of my replace in?
Fire didn't do anything, so you are your own slot.
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If that's the case I'm gonna buy me a jet.In post 450, Cabd wrote:Pagetops: official currency of 2018I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.- PeregrineV
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He had a post with a vote on.....someone or something.In post 455, Dunnstral wrote:
...? But Malachite didn't do anything eitherIn post 453, PeregrineV wrote:Fire didn't do anything, so you are your own slot.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.- PeregrineV
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Bunch of neighborhoods, we elected a boss each night, that was the only way we could use our powers.In post 457, Dunnstral wrote:
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In post 462, Dunnstral wrote:
I think I probably wasn't in a game like thatIn post 461, PeregrineV wrote:
Bunch of neighborhoods, we elected a boss each night, that was the only way we could use our powers.In post 457, Dunnstral wrote:
Not sure what game is being referred to btwIn post 453, PeregrineV wrote:that game with the planets
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Is there anything specific in the reads themselves you want to argue about?In post 480, Desperado wrote:
it isn't a matter of what i would ratherIn post 474, Superhans wrote:So you would rather he didn't make the post?
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Technically, I don't have to back it up.In post 546, Not Chara wrote:who wants to talk about why they're voting me?
Boonskiies still town, Gamma possibly town. i'd say Desperado is town on my wagon, unsure about the rest. Vifam's reasoning for the vote doesn't make sense and needs to be explained, and PV's vote needs something to back it up as well.
don't remember if Papa Zito gave reasoning, but PV's vote is more suspicious to me than it for reasons i hope are obvious.
But, since you did ask...
Awful lot of Malachite defense/justification when his posting doesn't seem to warrant it. You actually summed up his RVS vote on a non-player as "behavior". I feel that is a generous over-categorization of his single post, and you are actually calling out 2 people who are voting him.In post 257, Not Chara wrote:read up from yesterday.
Boonskiies feels like town. also has the best avatar in the thread right now. i voted Fro99er initially for his point about scum being concerned about flavour (because how does that translate to asking in thread? scum have google) but now i'm townreading him for it. go figure. :>
Brian's Malachite vote is terrible. 'nothing else interests me at this time'? he voted Malachite for completely NAI behaviour. i don't know if that makes him scum.
superhans wagon doesn't feel good either. i guess early wagons don't need a lot of reason, but it seems to be the go-to for a lot of players.
like Dunn's Brian vote, though. Peregrine voting Malachite too continues not to make sense to me.
VOTE: Brian Skies
could also vote GIF for now.
It's a wagon not a lynch, and you seem to be setting yourself on the fence to wagon or not-wagon him at a future time.In post 258, Not Chara wrote:gave Superhans another quick check. i guess i do see why he would be voted, but there's nothing that really makes me want to press him. i don't know if this is a real feeling, or my usual knee-jerk urge to oppose early easy wagons.
You have 3 separate quotes, and then mention/vote ThinkBig....In post 259, Not Chara wrote:In post 47, Desperado wrote:chillin
wondering why you went straight to "lol you think we're partners????" when surely you knew it was multiball
kinda weirdIn post 87, ThinkBig wrote:Well that was a quick change in vote from dunnestral. Yuck.oh, right. i didn't like anything ThinkBig posted, that's what i was forgetting.
VOTE: ThinkBig
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what is FOTM?In post 562, Aj The Epic wrote:Dude talk about FOTM voting...I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.- PeregrineV
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Didn;t know there was a "classic" going-through-the-motions scumscumhunting.In post 614, Desperado wrote:classic going-through-the-motions scumscumhunting
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Meh. Supehans is way more town of the 2.
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Yeah, after I posted mine.In post 689, Desperado wrote:
you being serious?In post 684, PeregrineV wrote:Talk more about what this looks like, so we can all be on the lookout for it.
you almost literally copy/pasted my case on him
And I would tend to find you more town for all that, except for comments like the above.
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The reason I like my NotChara vote.In post 695, Desperado wrote:after you posted your what?
multiball doesnt affect what fake scumhunting looks like. i dont think chara was thinking critically about his wagon and who was scum/town on it.
Multiball means scum#1 is looking for scum#2, so why would they need to fake anything?
I thought you said you had ways of spotting scum scumhunting the other team? (614)I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.- PeregrineV
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In post 698, Desperado wrote:they're still scum and they're still an informed minority
so their scumhunting doesn't look as genuine as it does when town does it
i didn't think not chara's investigation of his wagon was genuine
so it's scumscumhunting
Then is NotChara scum with AJ/Malchite, since that seemed to be the primary focus of both of them (if I read some other recent posts correctly).In post 699, Desperado wrote:i can see where you would misinterpret that as scum looking for scum but that isn't what i meantI will haveLimited Accesson weekends.- PeregrineV
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Yes.In post 705, Desperado wrote:seems like something to discuss after we've gotten nc's flip
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It's mutual, so that's good.In post 707, Papa Zito wrote:I'm scumreading PV a lot more.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.- PeregrineV
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what do you think of NotChara's focus on your slot?In post 708, Aj The Epic wrote:
It's almost like you're playing fucking ignorant that in the first post we learned there are two factions. You also have done... nothing? with your scum read of me prior to softing it. You actually have never mentioned it until conveniently right now.In post 680, Vaxkiller wrote:Pere's iso is garbage, barely a single opinion, but I hate how someone im scum reading had the same thought. They didn't back it up with a vote tho...
In post 415, Aj The Epic wrote:Hello! I started reading yesterday as I was in the replacement queue. Finished page 11 this morning. Y'all need more wagons, but I think Chara's a pretty safe bet for town. By most recent VC it seems something has changed but w/e. The run up on Vax seems really forced, which is strange because the runup on Dunnstral was done really well. I think I'm going to look for the differences in those when I finish reading.
Other than that, has Peregrine V contributed anything to this game other than a vote on someone who had yet to post?
Flavor of the month/momentIn post 683, PeregrineV wrote:
what is FOTM?In post 562, Aj The Epic wrote:Dude talk about FOTM voting...
In post 681, Papa Zito wrote:preflip associations are garbage too
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You can't be on NotChara/AJ team, unless they are not a team.In post 713, Papa Zito wrote:
I'm not on the other team sorry :3In post 711, PeregrineV wrote:
It's mutual, so that's good.In post 707, Papa Zito wrote:I'm scumreading PV a lot more.
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I'm talking about 257In post 715, Aj The Epic wrote:@PV the only NC focus I see from them is the post that 'scum tend to defend them early, but not this hard' post in 659-661. If that's all, there's really nothing to discuss.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.- PeregrineV
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In post 661, Not Chara wrote:i'm more interested in PV and Vax right now, along with ThinkBig.In post 720, Aj The Epic wrote:My response WAS that it's ridiculous. I'm concerned about who's scum, not who's a partner. I'd do it if there was obvious connections between 2 players I though were scum but my two scum reads are Vax and PV and there's nothing necessitating them being partners.
Sorry, not sure why I keep feeling like there is a connection between NotChara/AJ. Probably because of stuff like this also.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.- PeregrineV
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15 "questions" to people, but no follow up on any answers, if they were answered.In post 730, Gammagooey wrote:@Chara- what is the one thing in the game you are most sure of atm?
boon you never answered thisIn post 527, Gammagooey wrote:actually @boon i have a better question
Why is the combination of me+vax as both town unlikely to you?
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It's mutual, so that's good.In post 707, Papa Zito wrote:I'm scumreading PV a lot more.
6 votes on six different players
Calling posts and pages bad, while defending other posts that are called bad.
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You noticed the fluff and fencesitting, and your asking why he voted for her?In post 784, Superhans wrote:please explain y you're voting Not Chara. was it because of her fluff? fence sitting?
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In post 799, Vifam wrote:PV's posts are pretty bad but idk if they're like scum bad
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Are you sure? Your vote for me came after I voted her.In post 803, Papa Zito wrote:I'm not gonna cry over a Not Chara corpse.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.- PeregrineV
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Pretty sure it's because I'm voting NotChara, but let me finish reading first.
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Why's that? Like, what is the source of your townread on NotChara being stronger than your read on AJ?In post 842, Brian Skies wrote:I would lynch AJ before I would lynch Chara.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.- PeregrineV
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So other than her calling out people voting the slot you replaced into, why else do you townread her?In post 849, Aj The Epic wrote:In post 839, PeregrineV wrote:
I'm talking about 257In post 715, Aj The Epic wrote:@PV the only NC focus I see from them is the post that 'scum tend to defend them early, but not this hard' post in 659-661. If that's all, there's really nothing to discuss.
I think I addressed this earlier and said this is one of the reasons I was townreading Chara, and that it might contain some confbias on my part but that I also didn't like either vote.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.- PeregrineV
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In post 851, Brian Skies wrote:The reason I would vote AJ before Chara is because I can see AJ being scum whiteknighting Chara regardless of her alignment.
why does that same logic not apply to NotChara?
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I'll help you.In post 864, Brian Skies wrote:
Early posting was mostly joking around with no scumhunting. My experience with PV is that when he's town, he just lurks and comes back later with relevant content. Here it seems like he was trying to have a presence without actually making a meaningful contribution anywhere. This continues for 18 pages until Chara and AJ call him out for his vote on a non-existent slot (interestingly, Chara only scumread/voted me for this in one of her opening posts and seemingly ignored PV). He then immediately reverts to this behavior until here, which is likely just his response to being pressured by Papa Zito and Gamma. I don't know if he legitimately believes in a NotChara/AJ scumteam or if he's just reiterating the concerns that have already been expressed by others.In post 859, Fro99er wrote:
why do you think he's scummyIn post 822, Brian Skies wrote:Because I think he's scummy and his wagon is more likely to result in a scumflip than the largest alternative.
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And there is no pressure. Zito voted NotChara, I voted NotChara, Zito voted me and has been trying to get people to join. He is not trying to get anything from me, because none of the 15 questions were to me.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.- PeregrineV
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In post 865, Brian Skies wrote:
My townread on Chara is not strong. I just think that if there's scum between the two, that it's possible that it's only AJ (or that AJ is not her partner). This is because AJ has spent most of his energy pushing suspicion on players voting his slot or chainsawing Chara.In post 860, PeregrineV wrote:
Why's that? Like, what is the source of your townread on NotChara being stronger than your read on AJ?In post 842, Brian Skies wrote:I would lynch AJ before I would lynch Chara.
Maybe. But Aj's reason for townreading Chara, as dumb as it was, makes sense. I have not seen the reverse.In post 866, Brian Skies wrote:
Because Chara's post is not a strong defense of the Malachite slot, and I don't believe it was ever intended to be. AJ, on the other hand, is clearly hard defending Chara.In post 863, PeregrineV wrote:In post 851, Brian Skies wrote:The reason I would vote AJ before Chara is because I can see AJ being scum whiteknighting Chara regardless of her alignment.
why does that same logic not apply to NotChara?
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OK.In post 869, Brian Skies wrote:
Votes are still pressure. And multiple people have expressed suspicions on you in one way or another.In post 867, PeregrineV wrote:
I'll help you.In post 864, Brian Skies wrote:
Early posting was mostly joking around with no scumhunting. My experience with PV is that when he's town, he just lurks and comes back later with relevant content. Here it seems like he was trying to have a presence without actually making a meaningful contribution anywhere. This continues for 18 pages until Chara and AJ call him out for his vote on a non-existent slot (interestingly, Chara only scumread/voted me for this in one of her opening posts and seemingly ignored PV). He then immediately reverts to this behavior until here, which is likely just his response to being pressured by Papa Zito and Gamma. I don't know if he legitimately believes in a NotChara/AJ scumteam or if he's just reiterating the concerns that have already been expressed by others.In post 859, Fro99er wrote:
why do you think he's scummyIn post 822, Brian Skies wrote:Because I think he's scummy and his wagon is more likely to result in a scumflip than the largest alternative.
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That makes it more likely town, because town try to be honest when they should have just left that part out.In post 884, Aj The Epic wrote:There's also no counterclaim to his assertion as a 5-star role, which we know town has 1 of. I'm fairly certain there's a possibility of more but the roll percentage of a 5 star is low enough to expect no more than 1. AKA his claim is basically true unless counterclaimed.
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Lots of people who play mafia tend to townread people who "protect" them (see this site, for example). In 257, Chara, calls out the votes on the AJ slot. As one of the top items of interest when she replaced in. I can see AJtown seeing this as defending him, and thus make Chara a town read. I can see AJscum calling his scumbuddy or townChara a townread for doing it.In post 871, Brian Skies wrote:I've only seen two mentions of Aj's slot in Chara's posting. The first was here where she said she thought our votes on the Malachite slot was weird. The second time was here where she indicated that she could see AJ as scum whiteknighting her.
AJ, on the other hand, has mentioned a strong townread or defended her on multiple occasions: 415, 427, 562, 584, 596, 601, 639, 641, 647, 849. 645 and 649 were deflections directly related to his townread on Chara. 708 was an attack on a player that voted Chara. 715 was a direct response to a question you posed to him about Chara. This means that 14/18 of his posts mentioned Chara or were related to his read on Chara in some way. None of his other posts indicate an interest in anything unrelated to her.
What about AJ's townread of Chara makes sense to you? Why do (did) you think there's a likely team between the two? And why does the bolded matter considering Chara has never stated a townread on AJ?
What is hard for me to see is why townChara makes many of the posts she did (682).
Why do I think they are a likely team? Because of Chara calling out the votes on AJ/Malachite. Why bother, unless she had a read on the slot?
And AJ does townread the slot for that. Which I think AJtown knows better.
And Chara suddenly says AJ could be scum(659), but is still voting ThinkBig (273).
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It's only your 8th year of mafia, so I should explain this?In post 872, Gammagooey wrote:
aside from the no followup answers since i feel that's pretty self-explanatoryIn post 852, PeregrineV wrote:15 "questions" to people, but no follow up on any answers, if they were answered.
6 votes on six different players
Calling posts and pages bad, while defending other posts that are called bad.
More of the same.
why do you think the other things are more likely to come from scum than town?
Shopping your vote around until you find traction is often done by scum in order to secure a mislynch.
Discouraging town from posting or voting by calling their posts bad will reduce their participation in the game and reduce scumhunting.
But, you can go through his iso and say why the whole thing is more likely to come form town.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.- PeregrineV
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It feels like you don't really care about who or why you vote.In post 873, Papa Zito wrote:
I'm not sure how that's relevant to anything.In post 857, PeregrineV wrote:
Are you sure? Your vote for me came after I voted her.In post 803, Papa Zito wrote:I'm not gonna cry over a Not Chara corpse.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.- PeregrineV
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In post 936, Superhans wrote:ThinkBig had scum motivation not to present the picture of his balls.
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In the first grouping.In post 936, Superhans wrote:@EVERYONE
how many of you have deleted your original orb selection message?
I personally haven't.
I don't understand why anyone would delete a message that is so critical to a game they're currently playing.
ThinkBig had scum motivation not to present the picture of his balls. He must have deleted the messageafterhe claimed. Considering your message box can take thousands of messages before needing to delete one of them, why not delete the oldest first?
I may be wrong.
Also I think the level of detail put into his PM:
Corrin: Fateful Prince
Rarity: 5-stars
Color: Red
is quite good. Would a player such as TB be able to fabricate the
"Abilities: I am immune to all actions except strongman actions. I can turn this ability off and roleblocke a player."7
Also is Fateful Prince related to the role itself? Would a someone such as TB who claims to have no knowledge of the game (this I believe) be able to make this role pm?
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