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Post Post #4150 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:40 am

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C.C.: His voice was re-recorded. The moment "he" appeared, it was already me, just like in a magic show.


Vote Count 7.6culted (2): randomidget, BTD6_maker
Yume (1): culted

Not Voting (3): Creature, Yume, Vecna


With 6 players alive, 4 votes are required for a lynch.

Day 7 will end in (expired on 2017-03-01 17:46:40)
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Post Post #4151 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:41 am

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Call GM: Freedom wincondition says that every threat needs to be eliminated. Is my understanding that if everyone dies, freedom wins, correct?
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Post Post #4152 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:42 am

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Can you tell who are the remainning scums?
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Post Post #4153 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:46 am

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In post 4149, Vecna wrote:
Call gm - Can the lover forced suicides ever be redirected or blocked in any way?
That's not an ordinary active ability knowing its perform-able by an assumed dead player. Beside that everything about the ability will be reolved and considered like every other active abilities. (for example a delayed action might effect it or if there is someone who can target dead people)
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Post Post #4154 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:46 am

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In post 4151, Vecna wrote:
Call GM: Freedom wincondition says that every threat needs to be eliminated. Is my understanding that if everyone dies, freedom wins, correct?
Yes
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Post Post #4155 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:49 am

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We dont know creature.

Based on the show, Id say it definately isnt you - unless Jeremiah / Orange boy s a fakeclaim (which seems unlikely to me)

I could see Schneizel being anti-freedom since he really walks that thin line in the show.......But if I had to design a setup such as this I wouldnt put him on the same team as the emperor + V.V. + Marianne.

The most likely last scum, based on show contents/flavour is Culted. He was a faithful servant to all the people that have flipped scum.

The only reason im stretching this out so much is because I dont want to fuck it up last minute, and as far as I can make out we have (at least) 1 more mislynch.

Randommidget as scum makes very little sense with his flavour. I also dont think its a fake-claim since his abilities match with the flavour very well.

SSBM6 -maybe- could be some weird scum, allthough he isnt really allied to V.V. / marrianne / charles at all. The only reason id consider it possible is because he's a sociopath on the show that just does everything for his own entertainment and cares little for anyone else. The in-game actions however dont appear to be scum-motivated whatsoever.


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im 85% sure Culted is the last scum. Im stretching this out to make sure we dont get bitten in the ass by the last little bit of uncertainty since I was wrong about Davesaz as well.
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Post Post #4156 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:27 am

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Vecna, scum were provided fakeclaims.
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Post Post #4157 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:28 am

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In post 4154, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 4151, Vecna wrote:
Call GM: Freedom wincondition says that every threat needs to be eliminated. Is my understanding that if everyone dies, freedom wins, correct?
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Didn't realize that this was the case

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Post Post #4158 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:33 am

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In post 4138, Vecna wrote:Culted, if we hammer you today, would you make me suicide?
No.

But if we lynch yume and that's not scum and it does go to a random/you/me 3way then that's auto freedom win.

Just have random hammer me, I suicide you, everyone's dead and freedom lives. Or if random refuses we lynch him for the win.

Only issue there is creature surviving my kill but you'll likely have a cop result on him anyway I think
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Post Post #4159 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:34 am

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Or just for the wifom we can decide on which of creature/random I kill and you cop in the pt but I'd super rather aim a kill at creature than random
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Post Post #4160 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:35 am

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In post 4139, Vecna wrote:It could potentially be the case that V.V. forced culted to do the scum factional kill on night 2, which caused culted's visit to show up in the way it does.
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Post Post #4161 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:37 am

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I think it's 3 groupscum and lelouche as the weird sk thing.

Considering cd's role, and if yume is scum that's 2 lynchproofs making a 3 man team make slightly more sense

But if I'm wrong it could be mylo today which sucks because yume is less likely to be teamed than anyone else (though it's not particularly likeyl for anyone either just less for her)
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Post Post #4162 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:38 am

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you are forgetting the fact that btd6 is alive
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Post Post #4163 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:47 am

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In post 4162, Randomnamechange wrote:you are forgetting the fact that btd6 is alive
No I'm just more worried about preparing for a scenario where vecna isn't the scumkill because that's the only way I make it to tomorrow anyway

Btd is town you 100% vote creature in that 3way if it happens btw
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Post Post #4164 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:56 am

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In post 4155, Vecna wrote:im 85% sure Culted is the last scum. Im stretching this out to make sure we dont get bitten in the ass by the last little bit of uncertainty since I was wrong about Davesaz as well.
You were wrong about dave "as well"
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Post Post #4165 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:56 am

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Vecna what's scum flavor?
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Post Post #4166 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:21 am

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In post 4163, culted wrote:
In post 4162, Randomnamechange wrote:you are forgetting the fact that btd6 is alive
No I'm just more worried about preparing for a scenario where vecna isn't the scumkill because that's the only way I make it to tomorrow anyway

Btd is town you 100% vote creature in that 3way if it happens btw
i know, i was just talking about numbers
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Post Post #4167 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:35 pm

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What do you mean?

6 alive - lynch yume - I kill creature - scum kill on anyone but vecna = 3 alive. Which means we were wrong about one of you and btd, but in that scenario it doesn't really matter because we can kill everybody regardless.
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Post Post #4168 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:37 pm

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The only thing that messes with that is if scum no-kill which doesn't make sense or if creature doesn't die.

But that makes things even more obvious imo
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Post Post #4169 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:34 pm

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In post 4156, culted wrote:Vecna, scum were provided fakeclaims.
And how would you know this? Because so far only the third party has flipped with a revealed fake-claim. :wink:

Either way, both fakeclaims were of reasonably minor characters. All flavours claimed here are not that. Also pretty much all of the flavours have been fact-checked with their ability usage (pending creature).
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Post Post #4170 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:37 pm

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In post 4161, culted wrote:I think it's 3 groupscum and lelouche as the weird sk thing.

Considering cd's role, and if yume is scum that's 2 lynchproofs making a 3 man team make slightly more sense

But if I'm wrong it could be mylo today which sucks because yume is less likely to be teamed than anyone else (though it's not particularly likeyl for anyone either just less for her)
No, thinkbig was confirmed emperor.

Random confirmed you did not use your geass to stop me from rolecopping him.

Thus he was commuting N5. It makes total sense flavourwise, the emperor vanishes on the show when he enters ragnarok as well and becomes unreachable to nearly everyone (=obvious commute ability).

Doesnt mean he didnt willingly suicide on you to attempt to townclear you ofcourse
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Post Post #4171 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:51 pm

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At any rate, im hammering Yume so I get all the knightmares.

Me and culted discuss in our PT whether creature lives or dies.

Me and culted discuss in our PT whether I rolecop SSBM6 or Creature (notice if creature died I rolecopped SSBM6).

Scum use factional kill on either me, culted, RM or SSBM6.

This results in the following possible scenarios:

I die, I make culted suicide, Creature dies. 2 people remaining: --> SSBM6 + Randommidget. If either of them somehow is scum, we loose. I dont see any way around this if SSBM6 indeed is a scum alligned Lloyd or is villeta nu is somehow scum. Most likely this results in either culted or creature flipping scum and us winning.

Creature dies, I die, I >DO NOT< make culted suicide: --> This means I rolecopped SSBM6. In any scenario where creature dies and culted is not made so suicide ill have copped SSBM6 and have found out he's lying. In this scenario lynch SSBM6 tomorrow.

Creature dies, Scum factional kill either SSBM6 or RM. --> No unclears left, we lynch culted tomorrow

I guess theres not really any scenario where culted doesnt kill creature, unless somehow Yume survives the lynch again.

If for some reason both creature and SSBM6 survive the night, but both me and culted die - lynch creature over SSBM6. Im quite sure ill be rolecopping SSBM6, and if I find any scum-indication there I wont make culted suicide.



Any questions? Now is the time to ask. Else lets set it up so that I can hammer Yume.
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Post Post #4172 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:52 pm

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Btw, if Yume does flip scum but the game isnt over, all of the above goes out the windom.

Then my theories do not hold, and everything will need to be reevaluated since it would indicate some weird multiball mechanic.

Think that covers all likely scenario's.
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Post Post #4173 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:55 pm

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VOTE: culted

One of us is scum and I am not, so gotta be this.
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Post Post #4174 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:36 pm

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Btw, I'll only be online tonight.
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