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Post Post #9 (isolation #0) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:09 pm

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/In if you'll accept a hydra.
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Post Post #32 (isolation #1) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:07 pm

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we be so town we cheered when we got our role PM.

vote: RC
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Post Post #37 (isolation #2) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:08 pm

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Equi, you town?
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Post Post #42 (isolation #3) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:09 pm

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In post 38, DeathRowKitty wrote:i will give my vote to piegirl hydra for the next 15 minutes if she'll bite me the way i like it~
OK. :3

/me bites DRK a little hard again~
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Post Post #59 (isolation #4) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:11 pm

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In post 43, Equinox wrote:
In post 37, Treesort wrote:Equi, you town?
Unfortunately, yes.
Regfan and I both individually had you as a player who preferred town. were we wrong to think this?
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Post Post #62 (isolation #5) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:11 pm

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tentative town read on Wheme, I think.
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Post Post #68 (isolation #6) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:12 pm

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In post 63, Firebringer wrote:
In post 59, Treesort wrote:
In post 43, Equinox wrote:
In post 37, Treesort wrote:Equi, you town?
Unfortunately, yes.
Regfan and I both individually had you as a player who preferred town. were we wrong to think this?
this actually might be scum.
y?
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Post Post #75 (isolation #7) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:13 pm

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Fixed my internet problems. Lets get to this.

Equnox - The hydra hate while having approved us is disappointing. Got any reads so far? Some or really any thought process from you here would own.
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Post Post #93 (isolation #8) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:16 pm

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In post 74, Firebringer wrote:
In post 68, Treesort wrote:y?
just the question itself. like I don't think you honestly think that Equinox would enjoy scum at all....like it feels too silly of a question to ask them.

whats the purpose of that? none, its filler.
I don't really know if you actually believe this. Regfan and I had agreed on a "if she posts and isn't hating the game she's town" for reading her and if that's an incorrect assumption I'd rather sort it out now than later; I can't speak for him but I was making a judgement call based on one game of hers I had vaguely saw.

with that in mind, does that affect your read on us?
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Post Post #95 (isolation #9) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:16 pm

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Actually pretty happy with Pies vote of ours on RC, think his posts so far have been super underwhelming, the vote on Nacny particularly doesn't sit right (Nancys one of my stronger town reads at the moment).
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Post Post #101 (isolation #10) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:17 pm

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In post 86, Firebringer wrote:VOTE: Treesort

That is scum.
I also want to know what made your read on us stronger here.
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Post Post #106 (isolation #11) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:18 pm

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In post 92, Equinox wrote:It was a joke. If I hadn't wanted to play with you, then I'd have asked Ether to kick you.

My gut impression of you isn't good. DeathRowKitty's probably town. I thought nancy might be town for possibly seeing what I'm seeing from you, but her calling the team so quickly bugs me a bit.
I was moreso joking re; you approving us in the "Alt" thread. Would love you to elaborate re; your concerns about us, I think we're both players that are rather easy to read (Especially me) so you having us as scum is questionable. I do agree with the Nancy read, no idea on DRK (Already told Pie she has to try and read her).
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Post Post #108 (isolation #12) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:18 pm

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I want nancy to actually back up any of the reads she's posted; I'm concerned she's playing a "be very active and post a lot but not actually have any substantial read" type of game.
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Post Post #119 (isolation #13) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:19 pm

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Would appreciate us being taken off L-1.

Scum having the opportunity to blitz us isn't great

Really do think RC has a decent chance of being scum here, dislike Wheme's post so far; feels very frozen.
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Post Post #123 (isolation #14) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:20 pm

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In post 117, Egg wrote:I don't like two parts of a hydra missing my question...
it was an absurd question. you can tell by the fact that I town read Wheme for pushing on it.

what did you hope to gain with it?
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Post Post #125 (isolation #15) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:21 pm

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I hate Fire ignoring me and I think he's legitimately claiming scum as a joke (which is something I'm sure he's done in games before).
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Post Post #128 (isolation #16) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:21 pm

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In post 121, Equinox wrote:It was a gut read off your "cheer when we got our PM" post. I'll give you some time, since I remember Regfan tends to flounder in the early game.
Fair, that was a Pie post but we pretty much had the same reaction of "YAAAAAAAAAS" when checking our role PM - we didn't know how we'd play this game as scum at all. What's your thoughts on Whem so far?
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Post Post #131 (isolation #17) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:21 pm

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like his push on me is all sorts of forced and if I get lynched here you lynch him next unless he starts actually thinking about it.
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Post Post #136 (isolation #18) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:22 pm

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In post 130, WhemeStar wrote:@hydra possible for you to say who posts what?
a general rule of thumb re: us is Regfan uses caps and I (pieguyn) don't.
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Post Post #139 (isolation #19) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:22 pm

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still want nancy to back up literally any of their reads.
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Post Post #141 (isolation #20) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:22 pm

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Unvote, Vote: Wheme


Really don't see many actual thoughts and reads from him which is what I noticed of his most recent scum game I had with him. Find his stance on us but his lack of doing anything about it similarly troublesome.
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Post Post #147 (isolation #21) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:24 pm

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@Fire - I played preciously one game where you were scum, Postie wasn't in it. Pie thinks you're scum that's pushing us ignoring everything else, I disagree and liked your comments re; chosen. I've got a weak town read on you, currently discussing the read with Pie.
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Post Post #153 (isolation #22) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:25 pm

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In post 144, Egg wrote:Same idea as you questioning equinox. I wanted to see if your town preference was genuine.
I dunno if you remember but do you remember a certain TM 13p normal game? that alone should be able to tell you about my preference for playing town.
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Post Post #154 (isolation #23) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:25 pm

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In post 146, Firebringer wrote:Going to lurk till we a lynch now.
Cya guys.
If you're town how about actually start working with us; just vote parking and leaving won't help at all and if anything it'll make it harder to dissuade Pie from reading you a scum. What's your stronger town reads right now / why?
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Post Post #162 (isolation #24) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:26 pm

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I'm starting to come around on wheme, for the record.
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Post Post #164 (isolation #25) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:26 pm

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In post 149, WhemeStar wrote:I don't think i have posted any detailed thoughts in a marathon game.
It's not about detailed reads, it's about reads at all which you're severely lacking.
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Post Post #179 (isolation #26) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:39 pm

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Nacny, can you please give us some explanation behind your read progressions (What did you scum read Egg & Wheme for earlier), why do you scum read Yoshi now? Just something to work with since Pie thinks you're mafia and I don't at all and this is the biggest part we're arguing about.
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Post Post #181 (isolation #27) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:39 pm

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Also think Fire has a pretty high likelihood of being town via interactions.
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Post Post #184 (isolation #28) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:40 pm

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I'm coming around to Fire-town, too. I'm still a bit hung up because him true claiming scum as scum is a thing, but I didn't mind his recent posts as much.
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Post Post #185 (isolation #29) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:41 pm

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In post 180, nancy wrote:treesort did you bus??
Nope. Please answer #179. Would also like an explanation behind the town read on Kitty.
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Post Post #190 (isolation #30) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:43 pm

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I'm pretty happy with both Fire & Equinox being town at the moment.
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Post Post #194 (isolation #31) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:45 pm

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In post 189, nancy wrote:yoshi wasn't on the wagon, rc probably isn't scum, egg is dead so yoshi by poe
I think ruling out the possibility of scum being onwagon is a mistake. What's the RC "Probably isn't scum" thing about? He's where I'm tossing up voting at the moment. Thanks for the Wheme scum read explanation though; what was the Egg one based on?
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Post Post #198 (isolation #32) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:46 pm

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I'm not interested in lynching Nancy.

I also have a loltinfoiltheory that Egg died because he's male and DRK is scum.
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Post Post #203 (isolation #33) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:47 pm

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Cool, that explanation works for me.

Nancy/Fire/Equinox are very probably town.

I think there's a very high chance that scum is one of DRK/RC.
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Post Post #211 (isolation #34) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:48 pm

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I'm a lot less inclined to scum read nancy after her recent post, yeah.
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Post Post #213 (isolation #35) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:48 pm

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In post 206, RadiantCowbells wrote:I would rather not get lynched this game because I am town.
Some reads & thought process from you to show that would help.
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Post Post #217 (isolation #36) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:49 pm

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Vote: DRK
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Post Post #220 (isolation #37) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:50 pm

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Really don't think it's Fire here, the "Expected to die" + genuineness of his push on us + interactions all point to him being town here. Really think it's just DRK.
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Post Post #226 (isolation #38) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:52 pm

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In post 222, nancy wrote:why drk what am i missing here?
Lack of genuine thought process, really awkward vote on you, night kill making sense with her being scum, the fact that her play revolving around Wheme makes sense as scum.
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Post Post #235 (isolation #39) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:54 pm

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I want to town read RC because the reads he's posted just don't feel disingenuous to me and I don't get what he's attempting to do if he's scum here, my expectation of his scum play could be off but he's playing a much more low-key and less overt game than what I would have expected from him. Regfan doesn't agree, but eh.
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Post Post #238 (isolation #40) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:54 pm

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In post 233, RadiantCowbells wrote:If I sheep you though I need to know Firebringer doesn't make LyLo because he's my top scumread.
Best thing you can do is explain the scum read on him for me then because there's a lot that I'm looking at that points towards him being town but yes, I always reassess if alive in the late game; that much I can promise you.
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Post Post #242 (isolation #41) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:54 pm

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In post 234, Equinox wrote:This seems pretty genuine, though?
Eh, that post did absolutely nothing for me.
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Post Post #248 (isolation #42) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:55 pm

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I don't have any form of town read on DRK, as much fun as it is to bite her~.
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Post Post #249 (isolation #43) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:55 pm

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cut by DRK post, give me a sec
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Post Post #260 (isolation #44) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:58 pm

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DRK's recent reads elaboration doesn't do a whole lot for me, the Fire part doesn't ring true and the Nancy scum read feels scum motivated.
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Post Post #266 (isolation #45) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:00 pm

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I've thrown Pie back in charge of reading DRK.

Fire & Equinox's recent posts come across fairly town, feel better about my town reads there. I really don't think it's Nancy still.
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Post Post #268 (isolation #46) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:01 pm

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I agree Fire, I think you're quite plausibly chosen too.

I still have no read whatsoever on RC or BYF.
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Post Post #270 (isolation #47) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:01 pm

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I'm sitting here, I think both Fire and RC are town and I'm on board with equi-town too.

I'm a lot less inclined to lynch nancy than I was before.

that essentially just leaves one of {BYF, DRK}?
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Post Post #272 (isolation #48) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:02 pm

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In post 269, DeathRowKitty wrote:trees, is your nancy read because you think they're town or because you don't have reason to think that they're scum?
I think they're probably town; I think their reads while frustrating D1 were nicely explained D2, I think the hammer on Whem to proceed to go "scum motivated" is an awkward move to do as scum. I'm pretty much just a fan of their play D2 in general. It's not a lock town read (It's weaker than Equinox/Fire) but not interested in lynching there atm.
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Post Post #280 (isolation #49) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:04 pm

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DRK, can we talk about your nancy read?

I'm concerned because the thing you seem to be scum reading her for is exactly the thing that I thought was the most town about her; I first thought she was just trying to play a "hyperactive flood the thread with reads" game and thought that her lack of justification for anything (not the way she did justify her reads when she got around to it) was what made her scum.
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Post Post #281 (isolation #50) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:05 pm

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In post 277, Firebringer wrote:like why do you think this is weird Yoshi?
Scum has to get a chosen townie lynched to win the game, this means pushing on one of them; if you're chosen someone pushing on you and not explaining the read is certainly an issue.

Pretty much down to lynch inside DRK/BYF/RC.
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Post Post #284 (isolation #51) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:05 pm

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I also don't really think she would have said "this wagon is scum motivated", referring to herself.
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Post Post #290 (isolation #52) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:06 pm

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In post 287, RadiantCowbells wrote:I think Fire's just scum and we're wasting our time with this.
Then explain and sell the read to me.
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Post Post #293 (isolation #53) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:06 pm

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as far as reads go BYF picking up on the Fire thing feels good to me even though I don't agree with Fire being scum.
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Post Post #296 (isolation #54) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:07 pm

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In post 289, DeathRowKitty wrote:i'm having trouble figuring out what you want me to respond to this with, unless you want me to just like fully explain everything about my read in response to it
that'd actually be pretty amazing, if you're up for it.
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Post Post #299 (isolation #55) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:07 pm

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also good lord, Regfan immediately disagreed with what I pointed out about BYF.

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Post Post #305 (isolation #56) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:09 pm

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In post 297, DeathRowKitty wrote:
In post 284, Treesort wrote:I also don't really think she would have said "this wagon is scum motivated", referring to herself.
i don't think it would have made sense for her to basically quickhammer and then say that as either alignment

i think it makes more sense from scum panicking to bus than town rushing to switch votes though
when I saw that I mostly just thought it was weird that she'd vote at all if she thought the wagon was scum motivated, so I did think it made her scum, just not for the reason you did.

I dunno, this feels like an instance of "right push but doesn't find the right reason" and I dunno what to think about it.
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Post Post #310 (isolation #57) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:11 pm

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In post 308, Equinox wrote:I'm of half a mind to lynch literally anyone in {BigYoshiFan, DeathRowKitty, RadiantCowbells} just for a flip.
Welcome to exactly where I'm at. That's the pool I'm looking to lynch inside; I personally think it's just DRK but I'm pretty much alone on that. I think I'd go BYF over RC, I know Pie would.
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Post Post #315 (isolation #58) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:12 pm

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Unvote, Vote: BYF


If we do die in the night we want some focus on DRK for sure.
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Post Post #380 (isolation #59) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:44 pm

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That was hard to watch; submitted two scum guesses after dying; DRK being scum then Equinox being scum.

That Fire lynch was so sad.
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Post Post #396 (isolation #60) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:47 pm

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In post 390, Equinox wrote:Out of curiosity, what clued you in to me being scum?
Your D3 posting wasn't all that good, specifically ; didn't share the same sort of scumhunting vibe that others in the thread were giving off at the time. Probably still would have lynched DRK before I got to you in the F5 though.
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Post Post #400 (isolation #61) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:51 pm

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Thanks for the game Ether!
In post 391, RadiantCowbells wrote:I just didn't want to play anymore tbh.
I have words for this but none of them are nice.

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