Fire Emblem: Heroes of Mafia [Game Over]

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First game back in a while!

VOTE: GuyInFreezer

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VOTE: Superhans

I only worry about not knowing flavor if I roll scum.

Slightly suspish and makes me want to shout all sorts of WIFOM.

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Gamma + Fire Assassin = ?

if you actually think i'd make that post as scum with fire as my scumbuddy instead of just peacing out for a bit and coming back later you're real bad at this game

This post looks bad

VOTE: Gammagooey[/b]

It's full of WIFOM, that's for sure.

[Boonskiies]

There's actually no reason to lynch Dunn right now. At least give it a few days; he's barely even done anything this game.

Side note: UGH, I WANT TO HAMMER SO BADLY!!! I LOVE BEING THE HAMMER....

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@Super - why are you so play putting him to L-1 page 4? This wagon has scum on it, even if Dunn ends up being scum.

VOTE: Super

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VOTE: Papa Zito

Eh...this was bad. I'm not against a Dunn lynch, but give it a couple days. Let us get some info on others first.

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@Super - why are you so play putting him to L-1 page 4? This wagon has scum on it, even if Dunn ends up being scum.

VOTE: Super

If Dunn ends up being scum who cares how many scum are on the wagon?

Sure, a scum lynch is good no matter what, but my point i've been trying to make is why waste information given for page 5. Scum is coasting, and if he flips town, we just got screwed out of a lot of info because of a quick lynch.

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Also, I'm stupid. I actually thought Dun was L-1.

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> Scum is coasting
> Hasn't even been 24 hours since the game start

Again, annoyingly missing my point. Just don't quick lynch this early in a game is all. If day 1 ends in 24 hours, and scum was here for like a post, that is coasting, whether scum means to or not, because it doesn't allow us to actually gather intel on people. We're not even nearing a quick lynch, so let's just drop this moot conversation now.

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@Super - why are you so play putting him to L-1 page 4? This wagon has scum on it, even if Dunn ends up being scum.

VOTE: Super

If Dunn ends up being scum who cares how many scum are on the wagon?

Sure, a scum lynch is good no matter what, but my point i've been trying to make is why waste information given for page 5. Scum is coasting, and if he flips town, we just got screwed out of a lot of info because of a quick lynch.

So are scum coasting or are they on the wagon?

why can't it be both?

[Boonskiies]

so easy to just pop a vote and disappear, especially because this is open as a 2-2-11 setup.

[Boonskiies]

Work with me for a second, Papa. Other than Desperado who you are voting for, do you have any scum reads from any of the main wagons, which are/were Dunn, Fro99er, and now seemingly Superhans.

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Is it weird to "pop a vote and disappear" less than 24 hours into a conversation?

Not at all, and that's my point exactly because everything that has been being brought up in this conversation was in relation to a quick lynch. The potential quick lynch would have allowed that not to be weird, which would give us virtually no information in contrast to if we waited at least a few more days.

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unvote
vote: boonskiees

fair enough. I'm an easy potential wagon right now. I'm enjoying seeing your follow up.

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Work with me for a second, Papa. Other than Desperado who you are voting for, do you have any scum reads from any of the main wagons, which are/were Dunn, Fro99er, and now seemingly Superhans.

I'm sorry, are you seriously asking if I've developed solid scumreads on page 5?

It's page 5...work with me man. I'm trying to start conversation and change off of our irrelevant conversation.

[Boonskiies]

i don't believe that you really believed dunn was close to being hammered

Also fair enough. I like that reasoning. I haven't been on site for a while, but people who have played with me before can probably vouch against that. I kind of had a "not a village idiot....THE village idiot" reputation around here.

[Boonskiies]

i know who you are

i don't care

Cool.

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Like I said, I was fine with your reasoning for voting me.

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Irrelevant because of the semantics of it all. I felt like we were on two different pages for our conversation, which didn't even really apply for me anymore after I noticed I was just being dumb.

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VOTE: Superhans

I only worry about not knowing flavor if I roll scum.

Slightly suspish and makes me want to shout all sorts of WIFOM.

I wasn't suspicious of you voting Super, I was suspish of the statement you made. I should have been more clear with that. My vote on Super is where I want it to be still. I find him the scummiest from where we are at this point in the game. It's the wagon I'm most comfortable putting pressure on right now.


@Papa - I'm going to make a bigger post and go over my thoughts in regards to your insight.

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@Fro9 - The statement is completely moot because it's you trying to be funny by "claiming town" indirectly, which in itself isn't scummy, as both alignments tend to try and be funny like that, but it was just something I wanted to look back on, possibly post game.

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Also, I gave my reasoning, and the reasoning still stands. That wagon has/had scum on it. So if anything it just narrowed it down for me. So the fact you say I didn't even "rethink my vote" is just bad. It's you not fully reading the posts, as I stand by reasoning.

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@Fro9 - The statement is completely moot because it's you trying to be funny by "claiming town" indirectly, which in itself isn't scummy, as both alignments tend to try and be funny like that, but it was just something I wanted to look back on, possibly post game.

No, I wasn't trying to be funny. I didn't like superhans saying he doesn't know the flavor and the :/ face with it.

I feel like scum tend to worry about that. Had nothing to do with WIFOM about myself and everything to do with me pointing out a reason for voting superhans.

You didn't even address my point about your vote.

Beat me by like two seconds. SNIPED.

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@Papa - I'm going to make a bigger post and go over my thoughts in regards to your insight.

This should happen by the end of the day.

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You know why scum worry about not knowing flavor. Because they need to figure out a good fake claim, or if they are provided a fake claim, then if it really is a good one.

That's why I worried about it in original Steven Universe, as scum. Because I didn't know if my fake claim provided to me was any good. Turns out it wasn't.

I misread what you were saying. You were saying it to him; I thought it was coming from you in general speaking to this game alone. I read it completely wrong. For some reason I got confusion about maybe you posted before seeing the role pm replacing in.

Damn guys...I'm rusty as hell.

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So the fact you say I didn't even "rethink my vote" is just bad. It's you not fully reading the posts, as I stand by reasoning.

Bad or scummy?

What do you think of me so far.

I don't find you scummy. I do feel your vote is misplaced given your/my reasoning, though.

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Cool,

so we apparently misread each other.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Superhans

I'm back to voting with you.

Good. This is the right place to be for now!

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@Papa - I'm going to make a bigger post and go over my thoughts in regards to your insight.

This should happen by the end of the day.

It's page 7.....

That said, I look forward to reading your report.

That's why I'm waiting until the end of the day. In theory, I'd like to make what I call The Boonskiies Color Wheel, but maybe I'll change it up for this game, and then continually update it. Plus, I like moving on from the beginning of the game and getting people to react directly towards me. Helps me keep track of everything that's going on in the game.

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i don't believe that you really believed dunn was close to being hammered

nah I thought I was closer to l-1 than 3 votes - votes were confusing with no vc


You think this is the best thing to latch onto to?

See? I'm not the only one who thought he was close to/was L-1!

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This is the worst page.

Because Boonskiies was no longer posting in the entirety of the page!

[Boonskiies]

I have surprise company over for v day, so I'll get to my post in the morning.

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Sorry. Had a last minute print job offered today. Basically a prod dodge.

I'm going to give a little hint of how my color wheel is going to start.

Fro99er

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Brian Skies

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When I can quote easier, my big post (and I do mean big in comparison to my normal posts), will be here.

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Just put em all in one post bruh please don't separate each name

I was only going to put one name, it's a teaser for my color wheel, but then people got confused and didn't want that to be in question because I won't be posting too much today.

[Boonskiies]

Last Night Tomorrow (with everyone's favorite Disney princess): Boonskiies! - Day 1

HELLLLOOOOO, players of Fire Emblem: Heroes of Mafia!!!!!! Boonskiies here, bringing you a colorful adaptation of the local events.

[queue jazzy theme music]

BUH NUH NUH BAN BAN BAAAAA!!!!!!!!!ding.

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The Boon

skiies Col

or Wheel

Chart

Town

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Lean Town

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Null Town

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Null

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Null Scum

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Lean Scum

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Scum

Papa Zito

- No reason to play along with me, and he didn't even throw down a vote on me, I believe. But I wouldn't have blamed him even if he did. I'm pretty solid on townPapa.

Fro99er

- I had a conversation with him pages back, and I see where he was coming from. I don't feel scum Fro99er would have anything to gain from backing off of me like he did. I gave him reasons he could exploit to push, and he didn't.

Vifam

- He's either super focused town or super focused scum. Either way, he's doing pretty well, I'd say, as I'm leaning towards town. On the watch list for later reevaluation, but most everything he's posted has seemed pretty off the top of the head in a genuine way. I understand his reads, even towards Not Chara.

Not Chara

- Maybe it's gut, maybe it's the fact they brought up my avatar in a positive manner, but in the small amount of posts, Not Chara is coming across town like to me. Not enough for a full read, but a safe read. I like 275.

Vaxkiller

- Feels like he's really trying to figure this game out. Gammagooey points out that he thinks that vax has the worst posts of anyone here which I think is just not true. Desperado would probably fit that bill. Nonetheless, Vax hasn't had anything that sticks out to me as scummy. Even though I'm leaning town on both Gooey and Vax, I'm probably wrong on one of them; I don't know which one of them I am wrong about yet. Until more is said, I like most of vaxkiller's posts.

Gammagooey

- He really hasn't actually done much. In 410 he brings the fact that voting GIF is better than anything else he's doing, which seems like typical lost, trying, but failing Day 1 town. I don't agree with his 285, but I at least understand where he's coming from in regards to his Super read.

PeregrineV

- Hasn't had a major presence this game, but nothing is seeming scummy. Seems like he's been biding his time and watching carefully to pounce on someone.

ThinkBig

- Nothing to say really. He went on VLA, and before that just spraying facts instead of insight. But it was first few pages so meh.

Superhans

- Y'all have seen how I've thought of super, and after looking over everything, it has changed a bit. He's troll-like, but sometimes I see it as too ballsy of a playstyle to be scum as. Then again, I used to be trolllike as well as scum, which is why I'm trying to not use meta anymore as a source of defense/offense. Super has turned into complete null as I have no idea what to think of hans.

GuyInFreezer

- Really not a lot on this guy. He's posted little, but he's made sure that people know he's been here. Also, everything that he has said has had very little substance. Not sure about a lot, iffy on committing to reads, but it's Day 1, so that's not necessarily suspicious. Watchful eye will be needed.

Aj the epic

- Not much to say about this yet. His entrance into this game seems a little "naturally forced", if that makes sense. I feel he can potentially control the game if he ends up being scum.

Brian Skies

- I don't really feel he's doing or saying anything, but he is making sure he is there to make it seem like he does. I am gut scum reading him, but holding back a little because I see him as a player who needs more information to hit his stride, so he isn't my strongest scum read at the moment. I expect on the next read chart for this to change into me pushing him hard, or me solidly town reading him.

Desperado

- I may be a little biased here since he has been soft pushing me, but he's all over the place. Some parts of his play make me want to town read him, like, I understood why he voted me at the time, but scum would have just as easily pushed for that. Hmu when he does something of note.

Dunnstral

- I can see everything he's been saying from a town perspective, but I can also REALLY see everything he's doing from a scum perspective. I actually really dislike his stances here, as he has a high count for lynch candidates, and he doesn't take a definitive stance anywhere, even setting himself up in a position where he can change his townier reads into a scum read on a whim. Because of multiball, I still think scum was on his wagon, but I will ignore that until more info has been revealed. I find it funny how I was trying to stop this wagon earlier only to come to this. Blinded by the potential quick lynch, I guess.

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Will Desperado ever start to post anything that matters?

Can Aj the Epic fill the void that his predecessor could not and dominate the game as scum?

Will Boonskiies ever not be swayed by people trying to white knight him?!?!


Find out next time on....

LAST NIGHT TOMORROW!!!

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Do you ever feel, you know, not so fresh? Well, with this treatment, you too can feel like a fresh fly floundering the filthy feathers of a flamingo, by doing the following...

VOTE: Dunnstral

[Boonskiies]

bad

scum

[Boonskiies]

Also, I want you all to look at the time stamps for those two posts. There is 1 minute in between, so Dunnstral obviously didn't have time to read the post, saw his name on the bottom with a vote, and went bad. Discrediting without doing anything. I rest my case.

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oh my god it's beautiful

Hopefully that post will suffice in response to you pages ago.

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I saw the rest of your reads as well

it was really bad tho

Coming from the people on the bottom of the list.


@Desperado - What are your thoughts on Dunn?

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it has nothing to do with my placement on the list because you don't actually have any reads

you spent 2000 words to tell us you had a townread on papa and everyone else can either be town or scum or hasn't posted enough

it's a garbage, garbage set of reads and i dont think town would have wasted that much time producing a reads list that means nothing

I do this most games I play. (I know I talked about not using meta, but meh, it's true. This ain't the first time I've done this kind of color chart).

Also, I disagree with that statement, as I don't believe I even put much thought into writing anything about my Papa read. I showed my thoughts on other people much more than I did to him.

I'm interested to see Brian Skies reaction.

Also, notice how Desperado ignored by comment to him about Dunn.

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and he doesn't take a definitive stance anywhere

Untrue btw; I clearly state that thinkbig is scum and vifam is a top suspect, and that he pairs well with thinkbig

I should have clarified more directing it towards your "town/null" reads. Scum is obviously going to have those scum reads. Why are you looking at association before any real info has been revealed? That's just loose and scraggly speculation that doesn't have real merit.

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@Super - Sure, it wasn't very in depth, but it's day 1 page 18 there.

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Why are you looking at association before any real info has been revealed?

Also, notice how Desperado ignored by comment to him about Dunn.

I wasn't looking at association. My reads were separate from each other. Just hilarious you two are the ones trying to discredit the entirety. You both got super defensive about a day 1 readslist. Super suspicious

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I also just gave my insight on where I stand with everyone. You act like just because I put a list, I'm automatically right, which actually furthers my point for scum. I even mentioned in my reads list that I see some of my town reads probably wrong. And it's not a (all these people are equal in each tier sort of thing. It's like a tier list; higher up in the area is higher than others in same said tier.

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Like I don't know what you're expecting especially since Boon called himself a world renowned village idiot more than once in this game

At the same time, people get mad when I'm being village idiot like because they know I'm a pretty strong player. My late game town game can wreck house.

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I even mentioned in my reads list that I see some of my town reads probably wrong.

i know you did

and most (all?) of your scumreads could read town too

that's my point

It's Day freakin' 1, haha. Chill. No doubt that if I'm alive to make my next one stuff will change. I expect it to change, and I will mark the movements of people.

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an see everything he's been saying from a town perspective, but I can also REALLY see everything he's doing from a scum perspective. I actually really dislike his stances here, as he has a high count for lynch candidates, and he doesn't take a definitive stance anywhere, even setting himself up in a position where he can change his townier reads into a scum read on a whim. Because of multiball, I still think scum was on his wagon, but I will ignore that until more info has been revealed. I find it funny how I was trying to stop this wagon earlier only to come to this. Blinded by the potential quick lynch, I guess.

Similar to what Gooey said about me doing with vax/gooey, Dunn was doing this with people like me. Dun just looks like he's set up so he's okay with lynching over half the playerbase.


@Gooey - in response to the you/vax thing, yes. Exactly. I expect to start scum reading one of you two once more info is revealed, but until then, there's really nothing that I can make a solid case about to want to deal with that today, especially considering Dunn/Des are both still alive.

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and he doesn't take a definitive stance anywhere

Untrue btw; I clearly state that thinkbig is scum and vifam is a top suspect, and that he pairs well with thinkbig

I should have clarified more directing it towards your "town/null" reads. Scum is obviously going to have those scum reads. Why are you looking at association before any real info has been revealed? That's just loose and scraggly speculation that doesn't have real merit.

@Papa Zito

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basically, I believe he will vote anybody, if the moment allows it.

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He pretty clearly lists only 4 out of 15 players he wants to vote today no?

He only states that, yes, but that wasn't what I said. He positioned himself so he'd be able to switch his town reads to scum, specifically with his read on me. It's just how I felt reading that one post of his. I've stated all this before.

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You have but honestly I feel like that reasoning is weak. None of my town reads are currently so strong that I'd be unwilling to swap if needs be, especially without flips and wagons to look at. That post he laid out his 4 top scumreads with reasoning (albeit poor) and also gave a few townreads. shrug

it's day 1. it's more a matter of tone to me i guess. The way he had it rubbed me the wrong way. Maybe i'm tunneling, oh well. I want more info. i want flips.

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Here is earlier version.

Just an FYI

This first link is to people like Desperado who are complaining about me having three null tiers. This is an earlier version of my color wheel chart, where I had two Null tiers. Thing is, I didn't have a place for just plain Null. So I wanted to add that. The second link shows an idea of how the next versions of the chart are going to go, showing the movement of everyone on my list. This was an earlier version, so I didn't explain the movements like I eventually started to, but i mainly just wanted to point out the fact that the three -null-like case Desp is trying to make is crap. It's just how I do my chart.

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He only states that, yes, but that wasn't what I said. He positioned himself so he'd be able to switch his town reads to scum, specifically with his read on me. It's just how I felt reading that one post of his. I've stated all this before.

wait, are you saying that positioning oneself to switch a townread to a scumread is scummy or...?

also don't want boon to miss this

Positioning yourself, yes. Allowing yourself, no. Positioning yourself just means your putting yourself into a place where it makes sense for everyone else, allowing yourself is making sense of it for you.

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@Desperado - Have you ever played the game Codenames? My friends in real, including BBmolla from onsite, like to think of the game as hard mode when we play with just me giving hints because I think way too far out of the box

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Damn it. I like this post.

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Like I said, I expected my Skies read to change. He can be town for now.

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I don't really understand what Super's trying to push at.

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TB is town af after that. I know exactly how he's feeling. He's invincible, got an awesome role, and wanted to share it to everyone, haha. I don't see scum making that move like that. Also, it allows him to not have to necessarily keep up with the game right away (he was gone for a while; he's probably not caught up) and insures his safety for the day because we aren't lynching that Day 1.

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I believe if we have a Vigilante, shooting TB might actually be a good shot because if he's lying, then boom, scum dead. If he's telling the truth, then he's alive and vig doesn't accidentally shoot a townie. If we have a vig, anyways.

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actually @boon i have a better question

Why is the combination of me+vax as both town unlikely to you?

booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon

it was based on your guys' interactions earlier; I don't feel like ISO'ing at the moment. Didn't seem like town on town. Wasn't really all that telling, just something that I was putting out there to look at later after some flips and vote analysis come into play.

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expect no more than 1

gambler's fallacy.

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To be fair, all the people saying they haven't played Fire Emblem, Fire Emblem Heroes and Fire Emblem in general is much different, as heroes is a mobile game that just recently came out. It's also a free game that you can get to the selection of orbs page with only a few minutes to find out everything you really need for this game, with the exception of being slightly familiar with the characters.

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This game is based off of Heroes, as the orbs and whatnot isn't in any of the other Fire Emblem games.

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Like, if scum didn't know the flavor and needed to figure things out, spending 10 minutes without having to pay anything would more than prepare you. Which is why I think the "i dont know fire emblem" statement is moot.

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Also, I don't understand why the need for the other orbs to be known. That is easy to make up, and it doesn't really mean anything here or even in the actual game. The color of orb just represents the type of character you are going to get.

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Also, here. I literally just opened the game and clicked on the hero list. Then went to paint and circled some stuff. Took less than a minute.

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Also, I'm pretty sure he didn't put any effort into the first part regardless. That's probably his actual character and whatnot, it's the ability that would have potentially been the part he messed with. Character and orb isn't alignment indicative.

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I'm actually starting to convince myself. Especially after GIF saying he gives great fake claims. That would be a pretty great fake claim.

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I've created some setups with scum bulletproof before.

Yeah, vig can't prove crap if he ends up being scum bp.

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@TB i dont think copy and pasting a role PM would get you modkilled. (@mod correct me if i'm wrong).

It will. And I don't need to be Cabd to answer it correctly.

That does get you mod killed you're only allowed to paraphrase it in your own words

Are there any scum bulletproof roles?

Because im thinking a vigilante may not be able to prove anything if TB is bulletproof scum.

@TB i dont think copy and pasting a role PM would get you modkilled. (@mod correct me if i'm wrong).
I think it is only if you take a screenshot or something.

Ummm

6. Do not quote or pretend to quote any information you get from me via PM. This includes posting your role card verbatim. Paraphrasing is fine, as are role claims naturally.

Am I the only one that actually reads the rules and the set up info?

No, but you do seem to get that tunnel vision.

[Boonskiies]

Alright, guys. We have 2 days left, we're page 40. We need a lynch to happen. The 6 of us not on one of the main two wagons probably need to think about switching over. These smaller wagons aren't going to happen.

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I'm glad that the Aj wagon is starting. Didn't think it would be so easy. I didn't really want to hop on to TB or I would have by now, and I'm not going to vote NC.

VOTE: Aj

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That's L-3.

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V/LA until Sunday night. Tomorrow is my 22nd birthday (yay me) and will be going away to celebrate.

lmao

That may just be what puts me over onto TB. =/ 2 days left and he just got back from VLA.

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after that bomb shell which was his claim.

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1) The time was at 10:30 on a Wednesday, not Friday night. I know many people do like to get drunk on weekdays, but still a bit odd.

I mean, I'm 22 as well, and weekdays/weekends kind of blend together. We go whenever we get the chance!

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Also, I have been noticing (with that overly self-aware thing I talked about earlier) my annoying amount of posts that start with "I mean", "Also", or "To be fair".

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And Dunn's quote makes me increasingly suspicious of TB. My Dunn scum read from earlier has diminished. I've liked him these past few days.

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I got a page top...oops.

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Did someone say L-1?

VOTE: Think Big

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prodge. I'll catch up tonight.

[Boonskiies]

Sorry about my inactivity guys. In the process of moving, things getting hectic.

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moving day is tomorrow, so after that I should be back to my obnoxious self.

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Y'all want round 2 of meh color wheels when I get the chance to catch up or nah?

[Boonskiies]

Leave despardo off your wheel this time.

It's decided. doing another color wheel and desp shall not be colored.

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My internet is down, so I can only phone post for now. Also kind of annoyed because I have flat out said exactly what I was up to the recently, so anyone who says I'm lurking, holy fuck. Read the thread.

Anywhosies, yeah, I am so against this NC wagon. Like...everything that's being posted for reasons to scum read her I see as pretty townie. There is at least one scum in Gamma, Vax, and Vif.

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I'm going to look into Gamma and Vax more; I said yesterday one of them was scum.

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Unless I'm missing something big, I've missed a few pages and skimmed enough to get a general idea of what's going on, will do more as soon as I can, but I don't understand why people think NC is definitely scum. I'm really not seeing it. I guess she could be opposite side of scum Brian, and if we're assuming that was a scum cross kill, I don't know if NC would go through with that as a NK. Not to mention that the people on NC's wagon are pretty similar to the people on TB's wagon yesterDay. I would see GIF scum more if she would have hammered NC in her last post, but I guess she could have thought it was going to go through anyways. GIF could make sense as a BS partner. I don't want to not be voting this close to deadline.

VOTE: GuyInFreezer

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Desp/Papa/Froggy - Why are you so sure of scum NC?

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I'm aware, Papa, that you just posted your reasoning, but what's wrong with being iffy day 1? Also, I don't see insanity in her posts toDay.

[Boonskiies]

I'm aware, Papa, that you just posted your reasoning, but what's wrong with being iffy day 1? Also, I don't see insanity in her posts toDay.

*his

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I'm aware, Papa, that you just posted your reasoning, but what's wrong with being iffy day 1? Also, I don't see insanity in her posts toDay.

*his

Sorry. Messed up again. I don't mean to.

[Boonskiies]

I just...don't see it as scum theatre.

[Boonskiies]

NC isn't the literal scum player. Takes both of them for it to be scum theatre. Brian Skies is a safe player, was probably just WK'ing.

[Boonskiies]

Because it's easy. You guys are really bad at multi all if that's how you all think...

[Boonskiies]

Two things.

1) Why are y'all voting? It's night time still. Just open night.

2) When I'm scum, I don't town read my partners like that. That's just stupid.

[Boonskiies]

I tend to usually lean scum, null scum and fabricate actual reasons for being scum. I had a scum game where I got in deep 1v1's with both of my scum partners and they eventually were lynched. We won that game. Case of missing Dr Pepper. Phone posting, don't feel like going to find the link. If I was Brian's partner, and I wanted to show my town read, I would have at least fabricated some kind of reasoning. Scum theatre is one of my strong suits as scum.

[Boonskiies]

But again, that's just self meta, so take t for what you will.

[Boonskiies]

Two things.

1) Why are y'all voting? It's night time still. Just open night.

2) When I'm scum, I don't town read my partners like that. That's just stupid.

You talking to me? Because he was scum read for nebulous reasons despite despite specific interactions with you. Until he wasn't in 725.

I tend to usually lean scum, null scum and fabricate actual reasons for being scum. I had a scum game where I got in deep 1v1's with both of my scum partners and they eventually were lynched. We won that game. Case of missing Dr Pepper. Phone posting, don't feel like going to find the link. If I was Brian's partner, and I wanted to show my town read, I would have at least fabricated some kind of reasoning. Scum theatre is one of my strong suits as scum.

If it helps, you and Brian have no direct interaction.

yeah, I didn't have a direct interaction with most of the people in this game, including you. Your point?

[Boonskiies]

I like self meta

it's fun

Good. I do too, but people usually get mad at me for it.

[Boonskiies]

I'm well aware of how Boon plays as I've been avoiding him since his first Newbie game on this site.

This right here basically shows that him and I would NOT town read each other if we were scum partners. I see this as his partner, I set up early for a bus down the line.

[Boonskiies]

Yes. I'm in it to win it, baby. The solo long con win is the dream, baby. Claimed tracker day 1 in that explained game where I bussed both partners and won the game with a no kill gambit. (I didn't go out of my way to bus, was just happily ready and was set up early, just did what I had to do, and one of my scum buddies that game is one of my favorite players to play with nowadays.) for future reference with playing with me and I flip early as scum, go for who I am scum reading, haha, probably had thrown a vote out on them.

Anywhosies, enough bragging about my scum win from a long time ago...

[Boonskiies]

Mainly it was that mindset against me. Brian Skies and my play style don't mesh well so if we saw each other as scum team, we would probably expect to bus sometime in the game.

[Boonskiies]

Already explained why that's bad to someone else. ^

[Boonskiies]

Actually, you bringing up my Brian Skies read actually goes against what I said to Dunn. Defends me. I changed it to a town read, not a scum read. I did the opposite.

[Boonskiies]

My gut was right, though, haha, but I tried not using that. I gave a reason not to lynch someone, and like I said earlier, if him and I were scum partners after things he said, I would have setup for an eventual bus. I'm boon...

[Boonskiies]

Actually, you bringing up my Brian Skies read actually goes against what I said to Dunn. Defends me. I changed it to a town read, not a scum read. I did the opposite.

The direction of the read is irrelevant.

False. If you're using my boon logic as a case, gotta use it both ways. Hypocritical of you.

[Boonskiies]

Yeah, I will after day start.

[Boonskiies]

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The Boon

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*Note, see this as a tier list of sorts of the mind of the one they call Boonskiies, which is why I try to split it pretty equally.

Aj the epic

- I don't see a reason to doubt his claim. Unless major shenanigans occurred that we'll have no way of knowing until post game happened, he had something to do with the one kill. I highly doubt he's scum; there would be no point in guessing that PV didn't have a role to potentially counter his case at being town JK and force a 1v1.

Vaxkiller

- I like to think that this day reloader is in fact town orientated and not both scum teams having a reloader of some sort. He didn't have to bring up his slight confusion and hesitance due to his role saying more than Brian's did, even though they are basically the same thing (revolving the refund stuff). He genuinely feels like he's figuring things out. He questioned the scum/town versions of the watcher/tracker, which there are indeed scum versions of that. I like his patience with everything, and giving things time seems much more town focused than scum. He wasn't on ThinkBig or GiF wagons, although intent was there, as stated when he posted his intent to hammer. He really looks like he's trying to solve the game.

Not Chara

- I'm pretty certain NC is town. There is no way that her wagon is scum free. I believed her claim on the refunds and whatnot, and I'm seeing her play as town. I guess I can see a chance of her being scum; the papa zito target pick can be an iffy, but I do see Zito as decent chance of being targetted by scum.

Dunnstral

- Only way he's scum is if I'm wrong about NC, but even then that would be pretty strong defense of a buddy, but that might not be a bad thing due to the WIFOM that I would be considering right now anyways. He's hard on PV, even was yesterDay, and was really against the NC. Not Not Chara, anyone? Yeah, if NC flipped scum, I would look into this, but I don't see either of them coming from a scum perspective.

Vifam

- Man, Vigam's the reason I'm not certain in this game. I have no clue what I feel about this slot. He has the most posts, and his tunnel is pretty strong, but I kind of get where he's coming from? yet I still can't figure out. I don't know who his scum partner would be if he's scum, but I don't like his reads. He flopped on his Aj read, but I can see him just wanting to use that as an excuse to try to get another wagon going. It doesn't help he missed a lot of the change of wagon onto GIF. He also seemed to phish for stuff a lot.

Gammagooey

- I'm town reading Vax, and I'm leaning scum here. YesterDay he was on PV for a while; he's been bringing that up in general for a while now. I'm pretty sure he's correct on PV being scum, but I can see it from the opposite scum team. I will say that I did kind of like the tone he gave when he went to NC after realizing he was tunneling pretty hard, and he wasn't on the GIF wagon! But he was on the TB wagon. Decent chance he's scum opposite of PV.

Papa Zito

- See, I like and generally get a town vibe from Papa. He makes solid cases for everything, backs everything up, and I understand his thought process. I don't agree with his reads, though. At all. I also don't like the wagons he's been on. He was on Think Big's wagon, then was a big one pushing for NC's lynch, yet he switched over to GIF and put him to L-1 pretty fast. I don't like it, but my gut wants to say he's town, but I have a lot of paranoia about his slot. If he's scum, he's probably scum with Desperado based on their voting patterns. Just too easily on the easy to lynch candidate.

Desperado

- I had actually to town read Desp for a bit, and I don't know if my gut brought me back to it or in a way OMGUS due to his scum read on me, but I believe this post is a scum slip. He says "so the other scum team pushing a counterwagon to NC scum makes 0 sense" implying he knew there wasn't scum, or his scum partner, on the GIF wagon, even though he had announced his scum read on myself and NC, who was on that wagon. This somewhat counters the possibility of him and Zito, due to Zito moving to GiF, but that pairing was mainly POE for me anyways. He could be scum with PV or against, idk.

PeregrineV

- I don't really see at all a town PV at this point. I don't see him as a possible scum target, as he was so mislynchable, unless scum was shooting for scum. I find it very likely that he was successfully jailed to stop him from killing.

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Will Not Chara and Dunnstral end up fooling everyone and win a perfect game?

Will Boonskiies ever be able to figure out his thoughts on Vifam???

Will DESPERADO ATTACK THIS POST YET AGAIN?!?!?!?!?


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and throw a vote down onto Peregrine, and accept that Desperado is most likely scum!

Intent to vote: PV

(I'd be putting him at L-1, and I want to hear a little more first.)

[Boonskiies]

I like to think that this day reloader is in fact town orientated and not both scum teams having a reloader of some sort.

I think that role stuff is fully random aside from town being gauranteed a 5 star if there are none

what the ability does isn't, though. It's just based on the character they got, 4 or 5 stars got an ability, 3 star didn't. Cabd then went on to make a setup based on that.

[Boonskiies]

@vax - I said my previous thing earlier about Vax and gamm.

@vifam - I didn't mean that as scum, you are dead null.

[Boonskiies]

Basically, you missing the GIF means we didn't learn anything through that time on you.

[Boonskiies]

I am responsible for roleblocking EVERYONE on night 1. It works jsut as described, if they were roleblocked, they were refunded thier shot. My hope was to catch scum in a lie, and I would bait them by saying I had a day reloader, and I would not be informed if the shot was successful or failed. Plan didnt quite work out tho. I figured since I made it so far, I may as well try and soak up a night kill, but I think frogger may have targeted myself or NC. God I hope it wasn't me.

OH HEY

LOOK

I WAS 100% RIGHT YOU FUCKS

Yeah, as scum you were pretty paranoid about it, weren't you?

[Boonskiies]

I love how he just drops the NC case. Hilarious flail in'.

PV and Desp could be buddies. Watch PV vote me too.

VOTE: PV

This is L-1.

Oh, this is going to be fun. Entire team gonna get taken out soon.

[Boonskiies]

zzzzzzz

didn't you just say you were leaning town on me during all of that?

During all what? This is hindsight bruh.

[Boonskiies]

I also find it funny how Desp and PV have only had like one interaction with Desp basically just stating basic info to a quote of PV. This being said, he then put PV in his top 3 scum picks, yet he seems to be throwing it out he window, even though a JK hit him, and then there was only one kill. I know there's 'possibly other answers' but those are highly unlikely. The fact he doesn't even bring it up and then tries to completely mis direct that wagon, even though it was under his little line thing.

Yeah, Desp and PV are scum.

[Boonskiies]

Brought it up for a second up there, but throws it out. Yeah, right. How does that top 3 scum pick just get thrown out the window when he's JK to a no kill happening.

[Boonskiies]

I'll tell you how; it was a fabricated read on PV by Desp because they're scum together.

[Boonskiies]

vote: boonskiies

How is Boon the better lynch here

They should just be going for a NC lynch if anything. I don't see a lynch other than PV we should do for toDay anyways.

[Boonskiies]

How is Boon the better lynch here

there are plenty of explanations for the lack of a kill

and boon's lack of critical thinking in this situation is pretty damning. PV was widely scumread and i was not....why the FUCK would we have sent him to do our kill last night if we're scum together???

Scum slip??? So you made the kill on someone else and it didn't go through? Interesting...

[Boonskiies]

Also, Desperado bringing up my lack of critical thinking means that he thinks I'm town not critically thinking, yet he is voting me. That is a scum statement.

[Boonskiies]

Also, Desperado bringing up my lack of critical thinking means that he thinks I'm town not critically thinking, yet he is voting me. That is a scum statement.

no, it means you're trying to fake being town and failing at it

Why wouldn't I fake critical think then? I even brought up the possible other situations. Why not open that up more for extra possible mislynches later? You should stop trying to fake critical think and just us our buddy.

[Boonskiies]

if you were town who was thinking critically about this situation you would realize that me and pv being scum together doesn't follow logically with pv committing the kill and being jailkept

so you're scum ignoring the evidence to push an agenda

get it?

you were being scum read by people too, and you could have been afraid of say...NC. PV wasn't voting NC, so he was buddying up so NC wouldn't target him. You were more likely to be targeted by NC. You're scum ignoring the evidence to push an agenda!!! Ah!

[Boonskiies]

Well, Dunn had been posting it. And actually, NC said he was town reading you, so the thought of NC targeting you defensively!!! Which NC was targeting defensively! Ah, I see why you didn't choose to make the kill now. Now stop phishing.

[Boonskiies]

Also, what made you switch from your PV scum read to how you are now? Especially considering last nights actions...

[Boonskiies]

How does him noticing things revolving me change anything? It's multiball. It's just as easily coming from scum. Honestly, I'm beginning to think that PV/Desp could have just no killed. Desp isn't looking at the fact that there are two scum teams, and it's most likely because he's having to fabricate reasons because he is on one of the scum teams.

[Boonskiies]

i think boon was town

All I got from that.

[Boonskiies]

You don't agree with that, though. You were bringing up NC scum with Brian.

[Boonskiies]

Along with voting alongside everyone there except myself, which you did end up voting alongside me by the end of the day.

[Boonskiies]

So why are you voting alongside people you think are scum?

[Boonskiies]

Exactly, it's multiball. Why can't PV be other scum team now with that mindset?

[Boonskiies]

ahhh heeeellllllll naw.

First of all...
VOTE: Desperado

I'm a 1 shot vig [life and death], and I shot at Desp last night. Night 1, I shot at GIF, but it got refunded, which is why I'm very pro town NC/AJ and didn't really question their roles. And Desp probably going to claim some BP role, but that just doesn't make sense as town with a bodyguard, JK, and a vig? Come on. That's way too much blocked kills for town.

[Boonskiies]

Desp coasted yesterDay knowing Pere was probably town due to havin more info based on his kill probably being the one that was stopped, and potentially setting up a BP play later.

[Boonskiies]

Hana, 4 star, focused samurai, red. And it's life or death, not and.

[Boonskiies]

I believe if we have a Vigilante, shooting TB might actually be a good shot because if he's lying, then boom, scum dead. If he's telling the truth, then he's alive and vig doesn't accidentally shoot a townie. If we have a vig, anyways.

I was trying to fish for thoughts on shooting TB that night without outing myself to deal with the TB problem. But then he was lynched.

[Boonskiies]

Night 1, I shot at GIF

Talk to me about this.

I was shooting one of my null reads who I wasn't going to figure out. I then enter day 2 and vote GIF, right before everyone else jumped ship. Night 2 I didn't shoot because I didn't know crap/Vig is anti town role in my eyes, and should only be shot on null/low activity people or scum. No maybe scum shots. I missed most of Day 2, and like I said before, I started town reading Desp for a bit there.

[Boonskiies]

I believe if we have a Vigilante, shooting TB might actually be a good shot because if he's lying, then boom, scum dead. If he's telling the truth, then he's alive and vig doesn't accidentally shoot a townie. If we have a vig, anyways.

I was trying to fish for thoughts on shooting TB that night without outing myself to deal with the TB problem. But then he was lynched.

What? You were on his wagon. If your intention wasn't to lynch him then why were you on his wagon?

I hammered him. If you check, I was arguing on both sides whether to lynch him or not. Nobody responded to my vig thoughts, either.

[Boonskiies]

Why did you decide to shoot night 1 but not night 2 if "didn't know crap/Vig is anti town role in your eyes"

I said right before that...like...literally right before that...null reads low activity players are cool.

Also, can we like...focus on the missing night kills? Like actually. I have no scum motivation to claim right here with only one death coming through.

[Boonskiies]

Did someone say L-1?

VOTE: Think Big

Oh, I didn't hammer. thought I did. Looking through ISO.

[Boonskiies]

Regardless, Desperado is scum.

[Boonskiies]

Guys, vote Desperado.

[Boonskiies]

Then I got stopped some other way, because I targeted you last night. And I think this might actually be a scum slip, like actually this time. What was the missed kill then? Likely that both scum teams hit Dunn?

Also, what motivation would I have to lie about shooting you? It doesn't necessarily incriminate you outright. But you are confirmed scum basically from my perspective. I just have to get hem to realize it.

[Boonskiies]

And yes I am a one shot BP but I'm informed when the shot is used and I was not shot last night.

Were you shot N3?

[Boonskiies]

N2, my bad.

[Boonskiies]

sounds like the kind of thing you bring up when a no kill happens the day before and someone's being incriminated to a lynch, doesn't it? Why wouldn't you bring this up yesterDay with PV?

[Boonskiies]

You wouldn't have because you aren't town.

[Boonskiies]

Like what motivation do I have to fake claim this, Desp.

[Boonskiies]

Desp, let's stop tunneling for a sec as there are three scum still. I definitely targeted you last night. Where's the second scum kill?

[Boonskiies]

And if my shot didn't go through for some other reason, the person responsible needs to claim.

[Boonskiies]

You said you know for a fact you werent shot last night, but why would I claim to know you are BP then? Like, it happened, and now you're just covering it up, or shenanigans happened.

[Boonskiies]

There is no scum motivation from my half!!! Like there isn't! As scum, it would have been better to just stay quiet about it. And the odds that I'm just correct about the BP without actually shooting at you? Come on!!! You're better at wording things than I am, and you're banking on me getting lynched through that. You easily could just have lied about the informed thing, or if it happened or not.

[Boonskiies]

At this very moment I'm assuming you're a red rolecop who either can't shoot or has chosen not to.

Please look at this everyone. There are multiple reasons why this is post is from scum. Why, as red role cop, would I choose not to shoot? There are already multiple roles out from prior days. There would be no reason to NK there as solo red scum with two scum left on the other team. Also, on top of this, Desperado had said that they should stay away from lynching red scum toDay, yet is pushing me, his assumed red scum.

[Boonskiies]

There is no scum motivation from my half!!! Like there isn't! As scum, it would have been better to just stay quiet about it. And the odds that I'm just correct about the BP without actually shooting at you? Come on!!! You're better at wording things than I am, and you're banking on me getting lynched through that. You easily could just have lied about the informed thing, or if it happened or not.

So I'm lying about being informed if my one shot is used even tho every other one shot has also been informed if their shot was used?

Lol

Ah!!! I see why you did it!!! Guys!! Aj/NC please say you see ScumDesp now! We aren't informed if it went through or not, it was only because of Vax's ability that our roles got REFUNDED.

[Boonskiies]

Our roles Night 1 were stated as not used, which is why they got refunded.

Guys, please say you see this...

[Boonskiies]

Oh, you didn't say it. You just stated that it made it MYLO. My bad.

[Boonskiies]

But not because of our roles, like you were saying. It was because of Vax.

[Boonskiies]

@NC - he said when Boon flipped, I was assuming he meant Peregrine.

[Boonskiies]

Why did you decide to shoot night 1 but not night 2 if "didn't know crap/Vig is anti town role in your eyes"

I said right before that...like...literally right before that...null reads low activity players are cool.

Also, can we like...focus on the missing night kills? Like actually. I have no scum motivation to claim right here with only one death coming through.

Let me rephrase I guess. Why did "null reads low activity players are cool" apply on night 1 but not on night 2?

I was gone most of Day 2, and didn't really have time to make a good decision, but that's when I was able to step back and look over the thread, which is when I started to town read Dunn/Desp. After POE'ing everyone, and Day 3 if you look at my posts there, I pretty much figure out my thoughts on Desp. Also, I don't trust my reads Day 1 as town, I need the info and the analysis later, which is why I wasn't going to shoot Dunn.

[Boonskiies]

ahhh heeeellllllll naw.

First of all...
VOTE: Desperado

I'm a 1 shot vig [life and death], and I shot at Desp last night. Night 1, I shot at GIF, but it got refunded, which is why I'm very pro town NC/AJ and didn't really question their roles. And Desp probably going to claim some BP role, but that just doesn't make sense as town with a bodyguard, JK, and a vig? Come on. That's way too much blocked kills for town.

Is life or death the name of your ability?

Yeah.

[Boonskiies]

Like, I came into the game Day 2, and I voted GIF. I feel that was a pretty decent choice to shoot at Night 1 that had a chance of being scum, and wasn't really helping town. Low hanging fruit that had a good chance of potentially being scum. I don't see why you think that was a bad shot to try?

[Boonskiies]

I was skimming, sure, enough to see the very obvious NC push, which was the majority of the day, how could I miss it even by jut looking at a few posts? If you don't remember, I was town reading NC BEFORE all the shenanigans with Day 2, as my color wheel shows that. The fact that they were saying they got the shot refunded, and people "weren't buying it" solidified her as town in my mind, as it happened to me as well. Why wouldn't I try to defend? And I didn't go as hard to defend them as you are saying I did. All I ended up really doing was voting GIF, then everyone else followed, including Desperado on the hammer even though Vax had already put the intent to hammer without letting GIF speak.

And I'm not saying this so you "buy it". It's what happened. You want me to lie as town in this situation so you can "buy it"? Like honestly, I don't know what to say to you. Maybe you wouldn't have done it that way, but look at who I am as a player.

[Boonskiies]

My issue isn't your targets per se. My issue is an inconsistency with how you used your role. I don't get why someone who was comfortable shooting N1 would suddenly not be comfortable shooting N2 but then would be recomfortable shooting N3. Your explanation doesn't make much sense to me.

Anywhosies, yeah, I am so against this NC wagon. Like...everything that's being posted for reasons to scum read her I see as pretty townie. There is at least one scum in Gamma, Vax, and Vif.

D2 you weren't around much I agree. However, this was one of your D2 posts. This tells me you were paying attention to the game, enough attention at least to strongly oppose a wagon that was sitting at L-1. You even spent your next several posts that day further defending Not Chara, which is weird to do if you aren't at all caught up. You also mention 3 players you think are scum here, which further cements that you're at least somewhat aware of what was going on.

I'm not buying this.

Who would I have shot Night 2? I explained why I didn't.

[Boonskiies]

I didn't feel I was going to die, why not wait? I was a 1 shot. We didn't have any inactive players for me to be comfortable shooting anyways. I was that player, and I wasn't going to shoot myself.

[Boonskiies]

I was recomfortable to shoot N3 because I knew Desperado was scum. And I thought there was a high chance of me dying.

[Boonskiies]

Yeah. I called him out on BP before he claimed, too.

[Boonskiies]

I had literally 11 posts that day. That's it. How is that hard fucking defending? 8 of which were in the same damn hour and a half. 3 of my posts were saying I'll catch up later. One of them was me getting pissed off at because I had given reasons for my inactivity. One of them was saying I would look into Gamma and Vax more. The post that had the most substance for that day, I had even said I had skimmed and that I didn't understand the NC wagon, even saying things like "I don't think NC..." wifom, along with pointing out the similarities of the TB wagon and the NC wagon, which might I add, you were on both, AND on GIF. Then I asked You, Desp, and Frogger why you guys thought NC was scum. I was legitimately curious as if I was missing something. THEN I said something to you saying I read your post, and not understanding why it was iffy, so there was me asking for more clarification. My next post was me thinking I messed up on a pronoun so I tried and correct it. Then realized I messed up again and corrected it once more. (I do apologize, NC, I've gotten it right since then.) THEN I go and add that I just don't see it as scum theatre. then I argue semantics on scum theatre. then i get frustrated with you lot and not thinking about the multiball.

So most of what you said was me hard defending, was me trying to understand your reasonings for voting NC. All I said I was I don't think that ScumBrian and ScumNC would interact like that. How is that hard defending at all? You are straight up lying if you think I was hard defending. I just went over every one of my 11 posts Day 2 for you, and there's no hard defense. It's barely a defense.

LOOKING BACK AT THIS!!! This makes a lot of sense as a scum team of Desp and Zito, which I brought up the potential of yesterDay. Okay, yeah. That makes a lot of sense. Zito/Desp are the other scum team. Solid.

[Boonskiies]

...Why do we have a fucking vig in a 2 scum game anyways...

especially when we've seen 1 kill two nights in a row?

BP, JK, global role block, the watcher tracker combo, and the reload/body guard...you aren't seriously questioning why there's a vig there, are you?

[Boonskiies]

Is it impossible for both Desp and Boon to be town?

Sadly it's not. Both scum could have potentially both shot Dunn, and then scum has a role blocker/jk of some sort and targeted me or desp.

[Boonskiies]

Which is why I feel the scum gambit of me trying to get Desp like that doesn't make sense. There is that TvT potential.

At the same time, would you guys have wanted me to stay quiet? Think about that. If I wouldn't have said anything now, and chose to say it later, that makes no sense. Something happened last night to stop my shot. Zito could be a roleblocker scum sided, i guess, but ScumDesp lying makes sense too.

[Boonskiies]

Is it impossible for both Desp and Boon to be town?

Boon claims he shot Desp. Desp claims bulletproof. If that was all it was fine but Desp ALSO claims he gets informed if his one-shot is used and he wasn't informed. So someone is lying here.

you fail to bring up the possibility of me being roleblocked. I felt it was pretty obvious I had a role based on my protection of Aj and NC. I don't know why you chose to ignore that. Oh yeah, you and Desp are scum buddies, and gamma is probably Brian's partner.

[Boonskiies]

Like, look at it from my point of view guys. I'm solidly town blocking NC/Aj/Vax, that's obvious. Vifam is towning it the hell up today with how he is bringing up all possibilities without jumping to conclusions. That only leaves Desp/Zito/Gamma from my perspective, which leaves them as the 3 scum.

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And the characters and who gets the power roles and the strength of the power roles are randomized, yes, the actual setup IS NOT randomized. Cabd put together a setup based on all that, and honestly, this is a damn cool setup. Props to Cabd.

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1...I said that. Pretty sure this game has loads of 1 shot abilities.

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you fail to bring up the possibility of me being roleblocked. I felt it was pretty obvious I had a role based on my protection of Aj and NC.

If you getting roleblocked is something you're seriously considering, then

ahhh heeeellllllll naw.

First of all...
VOTE: Desperado

I'm a 1 shot vig [life and death], and I shot at Desp last night. Night 1, I shot at GIF, but it got refunded, which is why I'm very pro town NC/AJ and didn't really question their roles. And Desp probably going to claim some BP role, but that just doesn't make sense as town with a bodyguard, JK, and a vig? Come on. That's way too much blocked kills for town.

... why did you immediately assume Desp was a BP role?

because it didn't go through, and I was caught up in the moment, hardcore tunneling.

[Boonskiies]

1...I said that. Pretty sure this game has loads of 1 shot abilities.

Sorry I've been glazing through these last few pages tbh

Understandable. Just Desp/Zito trying to counter everything I say. Town would be doing what you all are doing. It's pretty confirmed from my perspective now, though.

@gamma - get in this game. You are red scum probably, you need to get the lynches on the other team as well. Vote with me, and we'll let you kill Zito toNight. You can have the ego win of beating other scum team.

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Zito/Desp are just grasping at straws now. They probably want to pull out their hair because everything is so annoying and aggravating, but makes complete sense. Notice how Zito didn't comment on me countering his NC posts and he tried to redirect?

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They probably feel like I should be a much easier mislynch for them, but I'm SLIPPERY, BABBBBYYYY!!!!

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They are both just better at wording and communicating than I am.

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What do you mean, Vax? You've been a town read for me since my first color wheel, but I said one of you and Gamma are scum. The fact that you've been consistent

IS

the reason you were the one that I town read. Normally I would even scum read that role of yours, but I liked the way you went about it, and you are testament against the 'Lynch All Liars' mantra, as I saw town motive from how you went about it.

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All I've noticed is that you're a flailing idiot and I once again have to play the Dumb Or Scum^tm game.

I've played this game many times in my career and it never gets any more fun.

FTR - and you can take this home with you to Real Life and it'll improve how you interact with people - just because I didn't respond to something doesn't mean I'm conceding a point.

What it probably means is there's nothing else I can gain from that line of questioning and I'm not going to argue with you for the sake of arguing.

I mean, I didn't see what gain you could have gotten from the first place. Just as irritating for me, but you have a different kind of irritation because yours is scum feeling like you can't mislynch the village idiot and hate it.

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What do you mean, Vax? You've been a town read for me since my first color wheel, but I said one of you and Gamma are scum. The fact that you've been consistent

IS

the reason you were the one that I town read. Normally I would even scum read that role of yours, but I liked the way you went about it, and you are testament against the 'Lynch All Liars' mantra, as I saw town motive from how you went about it.

I also scum read Gamma. Which puts you in the town block for me.

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who else do you town read?

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see? even desp thinks it was pretty obvious I had a role. I know he's not talking about the first part, as I already commented on it and gave the TvT talk to Vifam.

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And the characters and who gets the power roles and the strength of the power roles are randomized, yes, the actual setup IS NOT randomized. Cabd put together a setup based on all that, and honestly, this is a damn cool setup. Props to Cabd.

???

Cabd explicitly states that two players could have the exact same role. He clearly did not put together a setup z he built a range of roles for each orb and strength and whatever the RNG spit out is what we got.

Which is why your setup spec about a JK, BP, and vig all being unable to coexist was scummy.

Aj did that with the questioning.

[Boonskiies]

I have rolled all of your orbs for character creation. Final game design and role PMs will be out within 48 hours of this post.

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It's called Scum theatre yo, which is what I was arguing with Zito about as a thing with NC and BS Day 2.

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i'm happy to abandon my Desperado townread for that. i had to have been wrong somewhere. 2046 is all it is. attacking Boon's difficulty communicating instead of anything concrete.

quoting NC on you here. so...i'm not the only one.

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No. He didn't. That is impossible to do the set up before orb selection, as the orb selection is what GIVES you the random character.

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I'm not attacking your ability to communicate, I'm attacking
your poor logic.

my logic is me communicating...

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Yes I know! That's what I said....

that makes it IMPOSSIBLE to create it before the orbs are selected. What aren't you understanding about this?

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Unless I am missing something.

You still didn't mention your fuck up on the speculating of the three roles in being Aj instead of me.

[Boonskiies]

Are you being serious? You just said two completely different things...

i think you are misreading or i mistyped.

[Boonskiies]

I didn't mistype. you misread. We picked the orbs, got our character, with star ratings and the like, then he created a setup after that so we would get abilities based on character selected and star rating. I've played the game, that would take FOREVER to actually go through and pre make all of that. I don't think it would have been possible, tbh.

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Look. Listen to this...

we each have an orb page he sent us, after role pm's were out. I'm assuming everyone had their own orb page, we pick, boom, a character is shown with it's star rating. Based on that star rating he would then go on to give it a role based on it. He stuck to the flavor and mechanics of the game, to create a setup. Make sense yet? it couldn't have been made prior.

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This being said, I have literally countered every single one of your statements towards me there.

Please, guys....lynch him. He's grasping at straws still...

[Boonskiies]

...

I'm the gentle giant.

If I get 3 stars I'm VT

4 stars I'm 1-shot BP

5 stars unlimited BP?

Do this for 15 characters and you're done.

There are more than 15 potential characters in Fire Emblem Heroes, which he based the game off of and USED TO GET OUR CHARACTERS. Also, this confirms you as scum in my eyes. There is no way that your character can flip as a 5 star. He can only be flipped into 3 or 4 stars. You are spewing nonsense.

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See? Can only be flipped as 3 or 4 stars.

also, he doesn't have a shield, so he could be lying about buckler too, but I don't really want to use that as there's no way of us knowing.

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...

I'm the gentle giant.

If I get 3 stars I'm VT

4 stars I'm 1-shot BP

5 stars unlimited BP?

Do this for 15 characters and you're done.

There are more than 15 potential characters in Fire Emblem Heroes, which he based the game off of and USED TO GET OUR CHARACTERS. Also, this confirms you as scum in my eyes. There is no way that your character can flip as a 5 star. He can only be flipped into 3 or 4 stars. You are spewing nonsense.

ohmygod

You said there is no way cabd could have set up the roles pregame. I was explaining how he could have done that.

yet he couldn't have. like I said, there is more than 15 potential characters, he couldn't have known which. You're wrong.

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Then he builds a range of roles for 20 or 30 or however many heroes.

Why he would need to do that when we weren't told what or who the orbs represent and this is a 15p game I don't know but he absolutely could have done.

simple. The game is based off the mobile game, Fire Emblem Heroes....