Star Wars Rogue One [GAME OVER]

[Nero Cain]

ah fair enough

[ɀefiend]

No need to convince me of anything, really. The dispersion of powers and claims makes me fairly confident about my guess that one of AJ/BB is scum. And with mastina's constant pushing on BB, it's pretty obvious who I think it is. AJ and MOI have actively engaged in vote-parking on me because I was a fairly attackable mislynch when heartless and Infinity were pressuring me hard. It's probably no coincidence that mastina constantly calls me (and other townies) scum, but avoids wagons at all costs.

mastina + MOI + AJ is where I'm at right now.

VOTE: MOI

[ɀefiend]

To clarify, I know that MOI wasn't in the game when I was being heavily pressured. But MOI's recent posts about "just

look

at zefiend's latest posts, they are so scum," are in the same vein of weak attempts at echoing things others have been (falsely) saying earlier in the game.

[Heartless]

The dispersion of powers and claims makes me fairly confident about my guess that one of AJ/BB is scum.

is that right?

and what is this confidence based on?

[Heartless]

We are lynching Mastina tomorrow. No questions asked.

Flavor name is Saw Gerrara, rebel extremist. Haven't used 1-shot ability.

Have two full busy days ahead of me so I won't be quite active. Basically, I still want mastina dead, and MOI is full of shit. Either Titus was pocketing me the entire time and MOI just thinks it's easier to mislynch me (unlikely but possible) OR he's tunneling me like Infinity was and there's a chance we can talk it out (seems that way given his other interactions/hunting).

No need to convince me of anything, really. The dispersion of powers and claims makes me fairly confident about my guess that one of AJ/BB is scum. And with mastina's constant pushing on BB, it's pretty obvious who I think it is. AJ and MOI have actively engaged in vote-parking on me because I was a fairly attackable mislynch when heartless and Infinity were pressuring me hard. It's probably no coincidence that mastina constantly calls me (and other townies) scum, but avoids wagons at all costs.

mastina + MOI + AJ is where I'm at right now.

VOTE: MOI

these are SUCCESSIVE posts

[Heartless]

holy fuck that is just heinous. hold on a sec.

UNVOTE:

[Nero Cain]

Heartless, why do you think you are still alive?

[Heartless]

don't give me that nero, that does not even come CLOSE to proving zefiend is town

1) the jk said in advance he would be protecting us, 2) the OUTED investigative would obviously go ahead of us regarding reads

titus being the other scum WOULD explain why infinity would go ahead of us, yes

that slot being scum STILL doesn't make zefiend town

[Heartless]

We are lynching Mastina tomorrow. No questions asked.

Flavor name is Saw Gerrara, rebel extremist. Haven't used 1-shot ability.

Have two full busy days ahead of me so I won't be quite active. Basically, I still want mastina dead, and MOI is full of shit. Either Titus was pocketing me the entire time and MOI just thinks it's easier to mislynch me (unlikely but possible) OR he's tunneling me like Infinity was and there's a chance we can talk it out (seems that way given his other interactions/hunting).

No need to convince me of anything, really. The dispersion of powers and claims makes me fairly confident about my guess that one of AJ/BB is scum. And with mastina's constant pushing on BB, it's pretty obvious who I think it is. AJ and MOI have actively engaged in vote-parking on me because I was a fairly attackable mislynch when heartless and Infinity were pressuring me hard. It's probably no coincidence that mastina constantly calls me (and other townies) scum, but avoids wagons at all costs.

mastina + MOI + AJ is where I'm at right now.

VOTE: MOI

these are SUCCESSIVE posts

WHAT IS THE DEFENSE FOR THIS, NERO?

[Heartless]

VOTE: MoI
Executive override of the hysterical drama king.

zefiend's move is not surprising.

[Heartless]

That said,

WHAT IS THE DEFENSE FOR THIS, NERO?

There isn't one. Of course the "talking out" of Post 3592 didn't happen. It was never going to happen. The "read" changed as the situation demanded.

[mastina]

Feeling pretty shitty with my sickness--going to try turning in early to see if I can sleep it away, so going to skip posting tonight. Will post tomorrow, most likely.

[Nero Cain]

I hear that bussing makes you feel better. Try it.

[Nero Cain]

don't give me that nero, that does not even come CLOSE to proving zefiend is town

1) the jk said in advance he would be protecting us, 2) the OUTED investigative would obviously go ahead of us regarding reads

titus being the other scum WOULD explain why infinity would go ahead of us, yes

that slot being scum STILL doesn't make zefiend town

but

WHY

would AJ announce that he's killing you? His explanation that to help organize town powers doesn't really hold water imo. You've already recognized that scum are killing those that suspected Mastin/Titus so why is it so hard to believe that AJ was protecting you so scum

HAD

to kill Piper. I think you are getting buddied and snowed. And with a MOI scum I think its only logical to think Mastina is a buddy. I think him not using his action on her is actually p telling.

[MagnaofIllusion]

So Zefeind’s pop in and vote on me is scummy as properly pointed out by I assume TTH at 3705. The fact that it comes before Nero makes his “explanation” of my being scum that was promised in thread and never appeared solidifies my partnership read on them.

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So who else besides Nero and zefiend do you think is scum?

Yeah … given your “MoI must be lynched today” what do you think this will accomplish if I am scum to you. I have two viable scum suspects. Are you asking me to call the whole team? That’s busywork.

Aside from Zefiend and Nero I don’t have a solid scum read outside of that.

The only slot I have as pretty solid Town is AJ based on his claim and his read on Nero’s “flinging shit” today which is dead on.

You two are probable Town to me from tone since I replaced in. My only concern is that both you and AJ are still breathing which is paranoia. But I’m not just giving in to paranoia when there are viable candidates with active scummy posting.

My read on TWIE is mostly meta but I’d lean Town.

BBMolla is an big ball of nothing. Would not be shocked whatever his alignment is.

Mastin I automatically want to scum read for her playstyle and past issues. For her to be scum the push on her by both Zefield and Nero would be bussing. Possible I guess but suboptimal play. Maybe the fact that Mastin isn’t getting pressure at all opens the door on that more … will see if Mastin joins my wagon.

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I'm still very interested in the answer to this and I think its pretty telling that

he didn't answer that before his "battery died"

Look, another scummy assertion from Nero (the bolded). Anyone with any sense can clearly see the difference between my normal posting and my phone posting.

The answer is of course that the use was 100% Pro-Town. Heartless isn’t getting lynched and thus I haven’t made Town’s job harder by making someone I can’t know their aligment of certain harder to lynch in off chance I’m wrong on my reads. I doubt I’m wrong given Zefiend’s recent posting.

Again – it is pretty clear you were going to try to justify whatever action I took as scummy … I just happened to take the course that made it hardest for you to actually justify. I mean – what scum motivation are you suggesting? Just saying “No Town motivation” is empty mudslinging when the above is pretty obvious.

I'd also like to point out that one of the reasons that PV was lynched was b/c his call sign is wrong . I understand that having two players with identical call signs isn't the same thing but I mean isn't it possible Fire just made a mistake?

And this is scummy. Peregrine didn’t get his call-sign wrong. He got lynched for a poor decision in coloring it in his anon message and for not owning up immediately to the fact it was him. Nero is trying to draw parallels here that don’t exist.

So which is more likely – that Firebringer derped on the role PMs and it passed review with no-one noticing or Nero made a bad call in trying to boost the viability of his fake-claim? Occam’s Razor says the later.

a 2 shot vig and 2 joats against a a goon that can make a player loved, whatever mastins real role is and a 2 shot vanilaizer and ???? Sure yeah, the crew skills could be given to scum but I don't think that would or should play a part in balance.

In your theory that he's town we'd have a 2 shot vig, 2 joats, a full JK against a 2 shot vanillaizer, a goon that can make a player loved, whatever mastins real role is and another goon. That seems rather townsided to me but of course I don't really do modding so....

I just think it would make sense for scum to have blocking powers. And I don't think his play and use of action make sense as town.

I mean unless Mastin or MOI are scum blockers I think its plenty possible that AJ is scum here.

How is everyone not calling this out? Seriously the amount of mental gymnastics and unfounded assumptions he’s posting here can’t be honest Town.

He’s been calling both of us scum. How in the world does he not assume we would be lying about only having Character Abilties? He’s admits he doesn’t understand modding or balance and yet is using a bunch of stupid assumptions to keep AJ as a lynch candidate open. Aka how scum approaches things at endgame – keep as many fallbacks in play and active.

[Heartless]

Yeah … given your “MoI must be lynched today” what do you think this will accomplish if I am scum to you. I have two viable scum suspects. Are you asking me to call the whole team? That’s busywork.

This is not a town attitude.

[Heartless]

Mastin I automatically want to scum read for her playstyle and past issues. For her to be scum the push on her by both Zefield and Nero would be bussing. Possible I guess but suboptimal play. Maybe the fact that Mastin isn’t getting pressure at all opens the door on that more … will see if Mastin joins my wagon.

Nothing about mastina's interactions with Pine was of any note to you?
I'm unsaturated.

[Heartless]

And unsatisfied. That too. @_@

[Drunken Piper]

ghost vote AJ

[Drunken Piper]

ghost vote

AJ

nero

[MagnaofIllusion]

This is not a town attitude.

Yes it is. Find me a game where in MYLO going out of your way to call the scum team results in good things for Town. All it does is allows for scum to make sure that any mis-reads on teams are capitalized on.

Do you disagree with my read on Zefiend? If you do and want to discuss I’m certainly down with that.
Do you disagree with my read on Nero? Same offer applies.

But don’t grandstand me for not saying “Here are the three scum BAM”. I don’t operate that way and probably you should know that regardless of which head this is …

Nothing about mastina's interactions with Pine was of any note to you?
I'm unsaturated.

You know I still have yet to get past late Day 1. In large part due to the time Nero vacuumed up from me yesterday with his spam posting while I was hobbled on my phone. Now that I have stable internet I’m going back to look over the Day 1 / 2.

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ghost vote

AJ

nero

What is your read on Zefiend? Do you think I am bonkers for seeing his posting as completely scum motivated?

[BBmolla]

Sorry boys, been crazy busy lately. Will try to catch up a bit tonight.

[Firebringer]

Vote Count 5.03

Zefiend [2] MagnaofIllusion, Aj The Epic
MagnaofIllusion [2] Nero Cain, Zefiend, Heartless

Not Voting - [3] TheWayItEnds, Mastina, BBMolla

With 8 Alive, It Takes 5 To Lynch.

Heartless is Loved.

Rogue Leader Vote:

Mod Notes - May the flavor be with you.

Day 5 ends in (expired on 2017-03-06 22:26:20)!

[Aj The Epic]

I'm unsaturated.

Well at least you're slightly healthier when consumed.

[Aj The Epic]

Wait nvm you're like pure cholesterol