TM2012: Mafia in the Back Room (Game Over!)

[Vi]

So, as I was going to say...

The crowd outside was starting to get restless, but their penchant for chanting didn't slow down.

"We! Are! the 99%!
We! Are! the 99%!
We! Are!--"

"--the 57%!"

"lol"

"Shut up, this is serious business here."

"The 99% is an insidious movement created by people who hate Catholics and love birth control."

"99% of the people use birth control?"

"lol 99% noise"

"I give up on this site. Again."

------MEANWHILE------

Mr. Flay's eyes were by this time in a permanently-rolled position, but still he managed to read the names off the slips.

"LlamaFluff... Rainbowdash... Furry."

mith started and turned around quickly. "REALLY? That's it. We're done. They're our GD mods."

"They didn't apply to be GD mods."

Involuntarily, mith's arm twitched and launched all the slips of paper in the hat into the air, which in turn got caught by a breeze and scattered everywhere like a tornado of confetti. Enough of the slips were clinging to mith as he stormed out of the room that Ythan later asked if he got in a fight with a shredder.

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Come sail away!
4nxi3ty (4) ~

chamber,

Yosarian2, Isa, SpyreX, chesskid3
Nuwen (2) ~ Lady Lambdadelta, Parama
chesskid3 (2) ~ Captain Corporal, 4nxi3ty
Isa (1) ~ Kison
SpyreX (1) ~ kuribo

Captain Corporal (0) ~

Yosarian2

chamber (0) ~

Isa, chesskid3

Yosarian2 (0) ~

4nxi3ty

Not Voting:

4nxi3ty, Captain Corporal, chamber, chesskid3,

Debonair Danny DiPietro,

Isa, Kison, kuribo, Lady Lambdadelta,

Nuwen,

Parama, SpyreX, Yosarian2,

chamber

-It is now Day 1!

All of your votes up to this point don't count!

--With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
--Deadline is 2100 EDT, May 21, 2012.

[SpyreX]

Slow wifes god

Before I forget:

Vi, do we get domains as part of the flip?

[chesskid3]

oh wow this playerlist.

[Vi]

Vi, do we get domains as part of the flip?

No.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

My domains are quiet fireside conversation and long walks on the beach; please worship them in the coming nights.

More breaking news as it happens.

[Parama]

moved my vote cause i am not getting scumvibes from yos's recent posts.

What in Yos' 87 gives you townvibes?

[Parama]

oh wow this playerlist.

Uh it's in the first post.
Mind making a useful post?

[chamber]

Hey parama, did kats get back to you about my responce re:being in a vi game?

[chesskid3]

I've made a lot more than you,

bro

[Yosarian2]

Vi, do we get domains as part of the flip?

No.

Do we find out at night how many people worshiped our domains the previous night, how many "charges" we've built up?

[Vi]

Vi, do we get domains as part of the flip?

No.

Do we find out at night how many people worshiped our domains the previous night, how many "charges" we've built up?

Yes.

[Parama]

Hey parama, did kats get back to you about my responce re:being in a vi game?

Nope.

I've made a lot more than you,

bro

I just got served. Ooh, burn. I am on fire. It is painful.

[chesskid3]

I'm captain's america's shield, you're glue

bounce off me, stick to you.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

In regards to the domain claiming if we wanted to balance handing out information about which domains to worship to benefit town reads while still keeping things quiet we could do a half-domain claim.

4nxi3ty’s 23 is a brutally scummy post. It’s just so forced and doesn’t at all sound like him.

Did chesskid turn into not a derp when I wasn’t looking? I kindof liked it when he was a derp; he was really easy to read.

I don’t get why Isa is saying kuribo is town when he quotes from the past game the ways such things can go awry. This is a Vi-game; scum miller, not out of the realm of possibility; kuribo flat out making things up, also a possibility.

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VOTE: 4nxi3ty
Oh yeah, everything he says sounds like scum; it’s pretty brutal.

[chamber]

4nxi3ty’s 23 is a brutally scummy post.

Oh yeah, everything he says sounds like scum; it’s pretty brutal.

Really now.

[kuribo]

scum miller

wouldn't a scum-miller just be scum?

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

4nxi3ty’s 23 is a brutally scummy post.

Oh yeah, everything he says sounds like scum; it’s pretty brutal.

Really now.

My redundancy may be redundant.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

scum miller

wouldn't a scum-miller just be scum?

Pretty much; but scum could still have an ability specifying that they investigate as guilty to all claims just in case for example someone has a role that can investigate abilities. I'm not saying it's likely; I'm saying writing anything off as impossible in a game like this is a bad idea.

[SpyreX]

So three basic and important assumptions for my thought process:

1.) This is 10v3 (I thought somewhere it said they all were but?)
2.) Scum have a fairly even distribution of domains. One maybe two overlaps but playing the GUESS WHAT SCUM DONT HAVE HURR game isn't going to help.
3.) We've got a fairly even distribution of domains. Its not going to be perfect but there should be enough to make the next part fairly true.

That in mind, claiming domains lets us juice 3 for 1 if we go whole hog or, theoretically, 6 for 2 if we were gamblin folk. Forcing the claim TODAY locks scum into domain claims which is doubly nice if I'm wrong about #2. Moreso it should force scum hiding in the numbers to not do something extra stupid (and makes things like trackers, etc a bit nicer).

Problems that I can't get around are the giant red X syndrome it puts AND figuring out aside from flat domains the right way to go. Of course there's the double risks of falling into scum domain deathtraps AND opening a giant can of "if you can screw with the gojuice, welp gg". Coordination is key because if I'm right about 2 just going into night shooting blanks is going to probably end up juicing scum well as is.

So its not definitive but every fiber says domains out now is going to be better than not. I'm just waaay worried something is in the backend to tip the scale.

[kuribo]

Man, my gut tells me 4nxi3ty is scum. Every time he posts, he looks worse and worse.

But that wagon filled up fast, and I'm not willing to put him at L-1 just so Parama can be all "lololo told you I'd hammer."

Besides, my gut has been wrong as shit lately, which means my strongest town read is probably scum.

I'm good with a domain claim. If scum fakeclaims their domains, they could get caught out later. Alternatively, they kinda need the Faith they'd get from not-fakeclaiming. I don't see any reason not to lock people in to a FINAL ANSWER right from the getgo.

[Captain Corporal]

How often have you lurked out of games historically CC?

Too many.

[Nuwen]

Thinking a lot about domains at work today. I don't see the pivotal harm OR incredible use because flips aren't full reveal. I looked over the last year's powerful wizard and faction kills weren't powered by worship. If town actions concentrate on a scumless domain simply because it's the one most empowered, they'll just track and block circles around each other without hitting the night actions that matter. Inflating a single domain with worship automatically increases the number of outside-going-in actions focused on that domain.

I'll keep mulling it over, but inclined to think a domain claim won't really hurt anything today (don't expect it to be game-saving, either).


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hmm so we got 2wagons of nuwen and chamber. Both lld and chamber look like they want to get discussion going.

yos is trying to get into the dialogue with obvious statements. debating whether it comes from town stepping up and saying the obvious just in case or scum easing into d1.

either way.

vote: Yos

Only works aa scum if Chamber or Nuwen are among his partners (dominant wagons) and he doesn't want to commit to the bus, but still wants to be active.

vote Isa

. I like this one much more.

[kuribo]

Care to explain why? You didn't mind talking about other things, but with Isa, it's "oh, here, VOTE"

[Nuwen]

Care to explain why? You didn't mind talking about other things, but with Isa, it's "oh, here, VOTE"

Just rooting out the weak and the scum, nothing to see here.

I'll take a chesskid too; put my pretend-pants vote over there.

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Nuwen (2) ~ Lady Lambdadelta, Parama
SpyreX (1) ~ kuribo
Not Voting: Debonair Danny DiPietro, chamber

Hello, you five. Let's chat about Isa and Chesskid, and which one is the scums. You're all not voting for 4nxi3ty, so I'll take the implication that you think he's more likely to be town too.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I was actually just leaving my vote on you because I wanted to see where that would go when you posted.

I have also had my eye on Isa for a while now, but you haven't given much of a reason for a vote on her. There has been a lot of content, why do you choose to not comment on why you think Isa is scum?

I want to hear some reasons from you before I think about moving my vote.