This Otolia dude is so oily he gleams when the sun hits him just right. Or at all.
Otolia wrote:Not that I am against utilizing one's meta to draw conclusion, you actually have to be careful with that. Basing your conclusions on what could be interpreted as a joke is light and usually far-fetched. I was once in the same kind of situation and barely managed to escape Day 1 lynch before I went on winning the game in LyLo. This statement is just an example of what can happen, not what will. So far, you case on Meowmix is very light, hair-pulled and not backed by actual scumhunting. I'd like to see you pressure the former on a different subject.
Of course it was light at that point. Not responding to a joke is not a scumtell. However, it did prompt my further test of him by pulling out the "ehrmagerd WTF YOU NO TALK TO ME UR SCUM" move in
#26. His
response
to 26 is what made me certain he's scum. You seem to be subtly undermining my case against MM by leaving out key aspects.
Otolia wrote:I consider your point moot. In an attempt to deflect the flak you received, you state that you were trying not to attract attention. This part is good, any townie has no reason to attract attention, he doesn't fear it like a scum but he doesn't want it either because focusing on him is a waste of time (as he is town). However you add the last part, unsubtly mentioning that you were expecting a reaction. There is no reason for you to do that, especially during RVS and so soon into the first day. Furthermore dismissing the response you had without analyzing anything is contradictory with your previous statement.
This whole paragraph is fluff. Also, why would MM analyze his own responses?
Otolia wrote:I got a massive scumvibe from that post. Despite our shared same opinion, I feel your post is way too light and all too convenient. So this is a reminder that I'll question you about that further down the road. Perhaps as soon as we are done with Meowmix.
Oh, so now you like the MM case? Totally not the vibe I got from paragraph 1. I haven't decided whether the fitz post makes him scummy. On the one hand, it looks like a convenient bandwagon jump, but on the other it's approximately the same thought I had when I first read MM's "trolling for reactions" response.
Furthermore, Otolia's refusal to vote before a VC is ridiculous. MM is at L-3; there haven't been any votes since the last VC. It's not leading to a quick hammer. I think it's more of a "I'll look more town if I don't bus my buddy immediately and simulate caution in voting."
I am henceforth referring to Otolia as Manfred von Karma.
There is one thing I agree with Mr. von Karma about, though.
auspicious wrote:
Though I'm one to talk at this point, I feel like noobtown is a liability in LYLO/MYLO. Sorry if I didn't phrase that well before.
However, that being said, yeah, I'd much rather lynch scum today.
In post 97, MeowMix wrote:what's interesting about it? I see it as a bit non-committal, but at the same time I'm not exactly easy to read either, so it's a fair reaction to have
I'm more curious about
81. austriloious, what do you see in fitz's 3 posts that pop out as scummy to you?
*auspicious ;P
The first post is just RVS; even if he is scum, there's nothing there that points to it/points against it there. His vote on you is what worries me most. He jumped on your wagon when it was starting to take off, and didn't give as much... background? I suppose? Like, comments about it. Questions, concerns, etc. about your behavior - he just voted and said you were full of "bs". I'm still not sure on my read on you, but I shouldn't be reading into teams yet anyway; there is a serial killer.
I also hate to admit it in these games as it's no help to anyone and makes me look like a complete fool, but part of my read on havingfitz is actually intuition/gut.
This is the most self-deprecating post I've seen in quite some time. This posts boils down to "I'm not sure, I'm not that good, I'm not sure, my reads are purely based on gut." Seems like a pretty easy way to slide by without having to justify your reads. You, sir, now have my attention.
The scumteam is MeowMix and Manfred. Auspicious is the serial killer. Manfred and Auspicious are interchangeable, but I prefer Aus as the SK simply due to his "I'd rather lynch scum today" and pointing out that there is a serial killer in the game.
Pedit: Fitz, I will answer your questions in a future post.
