Your Idea Mafia 2! Day 1 9/9

[Jackel98]

Well, I'd like to claim my role now, because it'd only end up hurting town in the end. I'm a black goo. Don't hide behind me, protect me, inspect me, or vig me. I also asked the mod, and NKing counts as an action against me, meaning if I'm NK'd, whoever NKs me becomes a cultist.

[Shinobi]

Well, I'd like to claim my role now, because it'd only end up hurting town in the end. I'm a black goo. Don't hide behind me, protect me, inspect me, or vig me. I also asked the mod, and NKing counts as an action against me, meaning if I'm NK'd, whoever NKs me becomes a cultist.

This is likely a town claim. A scum claiming black goo would be an opportunistic claim, but it runs the risk of getting counterclaimed and lynched. The claim without provocation really helps, so let's just wait and see if Jackel helps us run some scum lynches.

Also, voting Siv would be a good start.

[OkaPoka]

Can I claim yet?

[Shinobi]

Can I claim yet?

Why do you keep asking? What would your claim possibly give us?

[OkaPoka]

Well, this game is slow so maybe a claim will get discussion flowing.

[Shinobi]

We already have one claim, and that hasn't seemed to speed things up at all. So it probably isn't a good idea.

If you want to get some discussion going, I want to know your opinions on Jackel, Anatole, and Siv.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Okay I'll claim b/c I really doubt I'm good enough to change your mind on some really scummy play.

I'm the damn werewolf.

VOTE: bert

There's probably another scum in the game so yeah, can you please not kill me? I'm willing to have my kill directed.

[All is Who]

Well, I'd like to claim my role now, because it'd only end up hurting town in the end. I'm a black goo. Don't hide behind me, protect me, inspect me, or vig me. I also asked the mod, and NKing counts as an action against me, meaning if I'm NK'd, whoever NKs me becomes a cultist.

Town, but we might need to lynch it anyway. Let me discuss with Who.

The discrepancy's my fault for not being clear. I picked the role that screws with kings, which is hero, not kingmaker.

Kaboom, your reasoning of me being scum is just silly. Like wtf. Why the hell would I even fake my SCUM role submission? And also, doing it before basically EVERYONE else in the thread... this line of thought makes literally no sense. The correct answer to "siv's post here is weird" is I ACTUALLY jumbled up which of the alien psychos did what and which I'd submitted, not that it was some elaborate scum plan.

VOTE: kaboom

This reads like scum mad at being caught for the wrong reasons, IMO.

-Jackal

PEdit- Cool. We still need to discuss though.

[Shinobi]

Well that happened.

Also, if there's a claimed black goo in play, we could just not take any action at night. We still have the power of the lynch on our side and I already have like 4 townreads.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Welp.

If there's any psychomagnet out there, could you PLEASE target jackel tonight?

[OkaPoka]

ummmmm wut

[Jackel98]

Siv, you do realize 1) We shouldn't trust scum, and 2) The pyschomagnet would become a cultist, right? Also, Oka, if you feel you need to claim, then do. We don't know what it is, and we – or at least I – can't tell you whether or not to claim.

@AiW: Why lynch the black goo, especially when there is a claimed werewolf? I don't see the point, even later in the game, considering lynching scum is a higher priority.

@Everyone: Opinions on Siv's claim? Lynch or not lynch?

[Jackel98]

Well, I'd like to claim my role now, because it'd only end up hurting town in the end. I'm a black goo. Don't hide behind me, protect me, inspect me, or vig me. I also asked the mod, and NKing counts as an action against me, meaning if I'm NK'd, whoever NKs me becomes a cultist.

This is likely a town claim. A scum claiming black goo would be an opportunistic claim, but it runs the risk of getting counterclaimed and lynched.

The claim without provocation really helps, so let's just wait and see if Jackel helps us run some scum lynches.

Also, voting Siv would be a good start.

I was sort of provoked by AiW, when they asked for black goo to claim. I was thinking of claiming already, but my question was the timing.

We already have one claim, and that hasn't seemed to speed things up at all. So it probably isn't a good idea.

If you want to get some discussion going,

I want to know your opinions on Jackel, Anatole, and Siv

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Why us, specifically? Already info on the other four?

Well that happened.

Also, if there's a claimed black goo in play, we could just not take any action at night.

We still have the power of the lynch on our side and I already have like 4 townreads.

How does this make sense?

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This and previous post from mobile, seriously.

[Shinobi]

Because there's a possible redirector in play that could make us all target you.

Also, Oka thought claiming his role would be a good thing to promote discussion. Unless it actually benefits town, I see no reason for him to claim "to promote discussion." If he wants to discuss things, he can come up with reads on the more prominent players, which he has yet to actually do.

And it appears he's doing nothing. So that's out the window.

[All is Who]

Because there's a possible redirector in play that could make us all target you.

Also, Oka thought claiming his role would be a good thing to promote discussion. Unless it actually benefits town, I see no reason for him to claim "to promote discussion." If he wants to discuss things, he can come up with reads on the more prominent players, which he has yet to actually do.

And it appears he's doing nothing. So that's out the window.

This, basically. Black goo + mass redirector is stupid broken in favor of cult. I was kind of trying not to say that outright though. If we let it go to night without lynching you, the game goes stupid in favor of cult, assuming redirector got chosen. Siv's basically already claimed he'd shoot you, making a cultafia, so we're definitely lynching out of you/siv, and I doubt any other mafias would choose not to kill. The question is did someone get redirector.

[All is Who]

Also, Oka, the only claim I want from you is a scumclaim. Would you like to scumclaim?

[Shinobi]

It's not like it matters if it was said out loud. Everyone already knew the implications.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Wtf who!

I'm not shooting jackel! I'm hoping the mass redirector is there. It'll redirect my action as well, guys! If it's not there I totally gimp myself if jackel dies.

Also you should probably stop claiming whether you have a night action or not.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Like, while it's better for town if nobody night actions until jackel is dead it's still better for the individual prs to do their actions because it's stupid broken in favour of the cult you'll be part of, if there even IS a psychomagnet.

[Jackel98]

Why would an alien choose to throw the game into the cult's favor, when it has a better chance of winning with a town majority?

[Jingle]

Can we not give reasons for optimal scumplay in the thread? Please? I'll be happy to discuss this in the dead thread or post game, but I don't want to give advice to the enemy.

[All is Who]

Can we not give reasons for optimal scumplay in the thread? Please? I'll be happy to discuss this in the dead thread or post game, but I don't want to give advice to the enemy.

Pay no attention to the man behind the hydra.

-ETL

[Jackel98]

Can we not give reasons for optimal scumplay in the thread? Please? I'll be happy to discuss this in the dead thread or post game, but I don't want to give advice to the enemy.

If you were talking to me, it is also better for town if the alien doesn't throw the game in the cult's odds.

[Lucky2u]

Locked until further notice

[Lucky2u]

I apologize for the thread lock. I've come to the conclusion that no action is necessary. Further information after the game ends. Game continues.