Didn't come across like you were saying there was an equal chance of being either Town or Scum, no.In post 91, Thor665 wrote:And the fact that I was discussing the theoretical concept of it being a scumtell to vote second, and suggesting that it wasn't because it could equally be argued as a town tell (thus making my point that it wasn't alignment indicative either way) didn't come through?In post 89, LicketyQuickety wrote:I highlighted the part where you said you were making Town Tells. I said later that This doesn't mean much until after flips as I stated here:In post 60, LicketyQuickety wrote:In post 47, Thor665 wrote:making my vote a town tell, not a scum tell.
Also, as an argument, if I am scum, why would I want to do something that grabs attention (as an aggressive second vote always does)which would make it less likely for scum to place a second vote than town. Again, making it a town tell.
Like you thought I was legit raising points for me being town that included "evidence" of PkmSilver being scum, and also me being scum?
Like, I feel like there's a specific reason you had to trim down my quote there to make it look like you're talking sense.
Nope, didn't see you provide any evidence for why PKM was Scum. I threw out a possibility. You think that's Scummy? You're wrong, but OK.
"question answer" was confusing because I am not use to that phase. There was no conjuction or anything like that in between. Made it difficult to understand what you were saying.In post 91, Thor665 wrote:To answer the second part first - when I am asking you about answering a question, and you say you're not answering a question, and I say it sounds like a question answer - I think "question answer" translates clearly as...it feels like you were answering a question, specifically the one we were talking about. Sorry if that confused you.In post 89, LicketyQuickety wrote:Because I am Trying to split hairs. If you are Scum, I am going to have to think outside the box a bit. That means trying to catch you on something you might not expect. What do you mean by "question answer?" That is confusing a Smurf.In post 83, Thor665 wrote:Felt more like a question answer to me, sounds like you're trying to split hairs here.In post 68, LicketyQuickety wrote:I'm not answering a question you asked GreenNope; I am noting an observation I made of your post. There is a difference there.
First part - so you're splitting hairs to defend yourself in order to catch me being scum?
Unvote: GreenNope
Vote: LicketyQuickety
I don't buy that, not at all.
Go back and look at how you attacking me started.. might shed some light on the subject. In other words, I don't feel like I have been defending myself at all.
Why not? Why don't you buy it? I can tell you right now, you are making the same mistake all super experienced players make when they are not reading me correctly (given you are Town): you are assuming you know the way I play and what I would do as Scum and think I am doing what you expect me to do as Scum. Go 'head, read through a couple of my games. Pretty sure you should be able to figure out you have me wrong.
Yeah, only problem with that is that it is correct play theory wise is to talk more to the people who you are trying to convince the person you should be talking to is Scum and I believe you were doing this. I also think you hadn't up until that point indicated that you thought I was a Scum read previously to that.In post 91, Thor665 wrote:I was talking to you and to everyone - you in specific because I was responding to you, and everyone because everyone reads everything we type. It's a public forum game.In post 89, LicketyQuickety wrote: Who are you addressing here? Who are you talking to? Are you talking to me or are you talking to everyone else and telling them I am Scum? I am not Scum, I am Town.
Why is it Scummy? Better yet, why is it Scummy for ME to do that?In post 91, Thor665 wrote:Okay, you are shifting around a lot here.In post 89, LicketyQuickety wrote: You did not admit to lack of understanding right away. You said I was missrepping you first thing, then covered it up with acting like you had no idea what I was talking about. Then asked me to explain where I said you said you were pointing out your own Town tells.
My understanding is you cited me for misunderstanding that you didn't answer a question I hadn't asked you - which Frogger pointed out and I admitted to right away.
I will agree that I didn't admit to being wrong about the misrep right away, because I didn't understand how you got there, and now that you have just provided an answer I find it a slightly scummy one.
I was frustrated because I didn't want to have to deal with a Quote mess for the next 5 pages, dredging through that slosh.In post 91, Thor665 wrote:You are answering a valid question with rage.In post 89, LicketyQuickety wrote: You saying GN should vote you because they Scum read you, then you questioning GN when they voted you the next post is the same Smurfing thing because its confusing as Smurf to follow only much less confusing that all this Smurf.
If you are honestly this peeved off - why? I'm actively *trying* to be clear to you in everything I say and do. I think all the misunderstandings are stemming from you and your responses, and thinkI am actively trying to avoid you being able to call anything confusing.
More or less, yes. Didn't want to do it the hard way with little gain.
I wouldn't call it rage, far from it actually. Frustration hence the colorful language, yes. Rage? No.If this is fake rage, I don't accept it as showing any logic from you,and am interpreting it as trying to cover up awareness of your logic being shaky.
I currently favor the second option, because I don't think I'm being confusing. But if something is confusing - maybe ask to clear it up?
My logic is shaky, my reasoning skills are not. Though I am not always looking at the right things, when I am looking at the right things I am not too bad actually.
I'll ask something at the end of this post to see if that clears anything up on my end.
You strongly disagree doesn't sound like black and white logic to me.. It sounds more like a strong opinion.In post 91, Thor665 wrote:I strongly disagree.In post 89, LicketyQuickety wrote:I'm not answering a question you asked GreenNope; I am noting an observation I made of your post. There is a difference there.
There was a question.
You addressed it to deflect/weaken it - in effect, precluding GN's need to answer it.
What I said, I don't know how you are inferring how it is not possible for me to completely disregard the question completely. I didn't even know my "answer" (who am I kidding, not going to kid myself, for get that noise) my observation had anything to do with the question you asked GN.
No, I wasn't even addressing it actually. I can go back and look at the quote and then my answer and give you my interpretation of things since you're not doing a great job of interpreting and questioning my posts so far. Want me to do that?
No, how does me commenting on something prevent GN from answering a question that in all likelihood hadn't been intruded in the first place?
I haven't said hardly a word on your vote on PKM in any kind of sound way. I don't have a stance on that. I threw out a possibility to see if things could get moving. I'd rather try to get answers out of the IC sooner rather than later. I'm not as concerned about your vote on PKM as much as I am on GN. I think the vote on GN is going to be most telling when GN or yourself flips. In a way I can't blame you for voting me since I know my meta, but I assure you I am not doing anything I wouldn't normally do as Town. I am prepared to link games if need be, but tbh I think you would prolly want to flip me anyways day one since you prolly would rather MY meta not be in the game all game long.In post 91, Thor665 wrote:So your presumption is that when I placed the second vote on them I was already scum reading them when their entire iso was saying "hey everyone!"In post 89, LicketyQuickety wrote: That is entirely missing the point. You threw accusations in GN face and then voted them. So you were Scum hunting them and Scum reading them at the same time. We call that tunneling where I come from. Why is GN Scum? What reactions did they give you that tell you that? You said you were looking for them to share their thought process.. What info did you gather from them sharing their thought process?
I don't think that's true, and it's assuredly not a tunnel.
I am not sure as to my full response to their thought process because I'm still asking them questions about it and haven't seen them answer yet - so it's an ongoing process. If I had to guess at their alignment I would tend to bounce it to the scum side,because I vaguely dislike non-logical conclusions. But that's including a presumption on my part that they won't have a valid answer.
In bold: cute.
GTFO of here with that. I'm not stupid and I can see a blatant logical fallacy when I see one. No, not going to entertain you with this one - don't even ask.In post 91, Thor665 wrote:Well, you actually are actively complaining that I'm forcing you to go down the hole - so, clearly you *don't* wish to be here.In post 89, LicketyQuickety wrote:If i was worried about what I looked like I would definitely not be engaging this far down the rabbit hole of clusterSmurf logic.
Also, your only other option, as scum, would be to act like I'm not here, which I assure you would end up making you look worse.
Finally, going hard emotion response in your reply tends to cloud up your answers and feels defensive to me.
Yeah, I managed to forget that you were one of the primary people SRing GreenNope. Not counting RVS, was there a third player you voted that I've forgotten about too? u_u;