Open 847 - Trust Fall [Game Over]

Pavowski · Post Post #100 (ISO) » Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:46 pm

In post 92, Meuh wrote:
In post 89, chavela wrote:
In post 88, Meuh wrote:I think that's deserved for wanting to lim me
...

voting you would be offering a trust fall

there are not eliminations in this game
...

I'm aware.

He explicitly said he wanted to RVS me, though, so I assumed that meant the same kind of RVS as a regular game, and he forgot about the gameplay mechanic

I'm being hyperbolic, if it's unclear

To be clear I'm aware of the mechanics, but vote tags are not explicitly discussed in the setup so I wasn't sure if it would count or not and decided to err on the side of caution

My spiritual RVS is on Meuh though, but I will take your opening salvo to heart

Meuh · Post Post #101 (ISO) » Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:49 pm

In post 100, Pavowski wrote:
In post 92, Meuh wrote:
In post 89, chavela wrote:
In post 88, Meuh wrote:I think that's deserved for wanting to lim me
...

voting you would be offering a trust fall

there are not eliminations in this game
...

I'm aware.

He explicitly said he wanted to RVS me, though, so I assumed that meant the same kind of RVS as a regular game, and he forgot about the gameplay mechanic

I'm being hyperbolic, if it's unclear
To be clear I'm aware of the mechanics, but vote tags are not explicitly discussed in the setup so I wasn't sure if it would count or not and decided to err on the side of caution

My spiritual RVS is on Meuh though, but I will take your opening salvo to heart

Glad you're going on a journey of self-improvement because of it

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #102 (ISO) » Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:50 pm

In post 100, Pavowski wrote:My spiritual RVS is on Meuh though, but I will take your opening salvo to heart

What is an spiritual RVS?
Are you claiming to scum or townread them?

Pavowski · Post Post #103 (ISO) » Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:51 pm

In post 99, NorwegianboyEE wrote:My goal is to find the scummiest player that is in reality town and trust them, then laugh at y'all.

I ship it

Pavowski · Post Post #104 (ISO) » Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:53 pm

In post 102, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 100, Pavowski wrote:My spiritual RVS is on Meuh though, but I will take your opening salvo to heart
What is an spiritual RVS?
Are you claiming to scum or townread them?

I mean that if I could RVS I would put it on Meuh

Not ready to declare a read there atm

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #105 (ISO) » Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:58 pm

Oh so it's meaningless, ok.

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #106 (ISO) » Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:03 pm

Know what is cool about this setup i just realized.
I literally don’t need to care about what the majority thinks.
WOOO

chavela · Post Post #107 (ISO) » Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:03 pm

In post 100, Pavowski wrote:To be clear I'm aware of the mechanics, but vote tags are not explicitly discussed in the setup so I wasn't sure if it would count or not and decided to err on the side of caution

yes they are?

vote tags are explicitly said to be counted as trusts

Meuh · Post Post #108 (ISO) » Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:03 pm

51 and 54 are a weird set of posts, I don't see how not having seen the setup in action before would stop you from making estimates on its meta and the strategies to use for it; but the weirdness is more likely to come from a different way of viewing the game than genuine scuminess I suppose

In post 74, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 71, chavela wrote:
In post 68, NorwegianboyEE wrote:It might if you had waited instead of immediately questioning the question.
...

infinitely less value in that then just engaging enchant on other subjects whenever the opportunity presents itself

like if you fear that enchant is going to have limited activity

then giving enchant the opportunity to burn that limited activity on talking to you about their limited activity is kinda ... !!! right
Yes, i wanted to talk to them.

I feel Enchant would be an easy slot for me to read.

Like can u go 5 seconds without ranting about the seeming lack of logic behind my posts. I'm an completely illogical mad man u kno that right?

and do you think Enchant would have an easy time reading you?

chavela · Post Post #109 (ISO) » Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:04 pm

In post 106, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Know what is cool about this setup i just realized.
I literally don’t need to care about what the majority thinks.
WOOO

this is not good in general and leads to towns throwing and/or many frustrated players

Pavowski · Post Post #110 (ISO) » Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:04 pm

Meaningless feels harsh but I guess I can't argue

Do you have a take on Meuh at this point?

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #111 (ISO) » Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:04 pm

Yes i think Enchant would.

bugspray · Post Post #112 (ISO) » Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:05 pm

can someone actually be scummy in this setup? everyone has the same goal

Meuh · Post Post #113 (ISO) » Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:05 pm

In post 1, Prism wrote: [*]Trust votes must not be spoilered and should be in an unambiguous format such as VOTE: Player,
Vote: Player
,
I trust Player
,
Trust: Player
,
Offer: Player
,
Accept: Player
, HEAL: Player etc. Abbreviating someone's name is acceptable, so long as I can discern who you were voting for without trouble. If I think it should count as a vote or trust, it will.

Pavowski · Post Post #114 (ISO) » Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:05 pm

In post 107, chavela wrote:
In post 100, Pavowski wrote:To be clear I'm aware of the mechanics, but vote tags are not explicitly discussed in the setup so I wasn't sure if it would count or not and decided to err on the side of caution
yes they are?

vote tags are explicitly said to be counted as trusts

Well damn, that's what I get for skimming

Guess I'm glad I erred

chavela · Post Post #115 (ISO) » Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:05 pm

In post 107, chavela wrote:
In post 100, Pavowski wrote:To be clear I'm aware of the mechanics, but vote tags are not explicitly discussed in the setup so I wasn't sure if it would count or not and decided to err on the side of caution
yes they are?

vote tags are explicitly said to be counted as trusts

In post 1, Prism wrote:Trust votes must not be spoilered and should be in an unambiguous format such as VOTE: Player, Vote: Player, I trust Player, Trust: Player, Offer: Player, Accept: Player, HEAL: Player etc. Abbreviating someone's name is acceptable, so long as I can discern who you were voting for without trouble. If I think it should count as a vote or trust, it will.

predit: yeah

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #116 (ISO) » Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:06 pm

In post 109, chavela wrote:
In post 106, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Know what is cool about this setup i just realized.
I literally don’t need to care about what the majority thinks.
WOOO
this is not good in general and leads to towns throwing and/or many frustrated players

Ok dad.

bugspray · Post Post #117 (ISO) » Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:06 pm

alright so there's ten of us what if nobody ever trusts anybody and we just take turn modding marathon micros in here?

chavela · Post Post #118 (ISO) » Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:07 pm

In post 114, Pavowski wrote:
In post 107, chavela wrote:
In post 100, Pavowski wrote:To be clear I'm aware of the mechanics, but vote tags are not explicitly discussed in the setup so I wasn't sure if it would count or not and decided to err on the side of caution
yes they are?

vote tags are explicitly said to be counted as trusts
Well damn, that's what I get for skimming

Guess I'm glad I erred

hmhmhm

on one hand, kinda takes away my 'good' from earlier,

but on the other, eh, no real reason for scum to negate

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #119 (ISO) » Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:07 pm

In post 117, bugspray wrote:alright so there's ten of us what if nobody ever trusts anybody and we just take turn modding marathon micros in here?

R u trying to lamist.

chavela · Post Post #120 (ISO) » Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:08 pm

In post 116, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Ok dad.

please do not with this

Meuh · Post Post #121 (ISO) » Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:08 pm

In post 117, bugspray wrote:alright so there's ten of us what if nobody ever trusts anybody and we just take turn modding marathon micros in here?

In post 2, Prism wrote: [*]An elapsed day deadline results in a free choice by the Mafia to be resolved 36 hours later. If the Mafia fail to select a valid pairing, the game will be resolved as a town win.[/*]

chavela · Post Post #122 (ISO) » Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:09 pm

In post 116, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 109, chavela wrote:
In post 106, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Know what is cool about this setup i just realized.
I literally don’t need to care about what the majority thinks.
WOOO
this is not good in general and leads to towns throwing and/or many frustrated players
Ok dad.

but also if you want to see what happens when you do exactly this

look at dkkoba's play in the trust fall tris moderated (i am 90% sure it was that one at least)

humaneatingmonkey · Post Post #123 (ISO) » Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:09 pm

first one to trust me is town

Meuh · Post Post #124 (ISO) » Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:10 pm

In post 112, bugspray wrote:can someone actually be scummy in this setup? everyone has the same goal

I mean mafia members also want to get each other out, and because of the rule against pairing together, have to avoid getting in a situation where they'd have to accept each other's deal (although it seems they would be able to make

offers

to each other, just not accept since it'd be revealed it failed)