We The Purple II Game Over

[Bacon and Egg]

Is there an amnesiac result today?

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I don't see why he would do that

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I very much doubt that's the case, not only because this is a silly way to look like you're not a PR, but also because there's no way ns would hydrate him.

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yeah I found that whole thing weird, including how he found the fact bert was investigated and he was chosen to receive it normal, but then I don't see why he would lie about such a thing unprovoked.

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Speaking of defending ika, I still don't like Fresh's last posts. It looked like he wanted to defend ika, then changed his mind and wanted to lynch him.

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Given that's his scum meta as it was mentioned lots of times, I don't get how you would be surprised

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just iso Fresh, it's not that long

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I guess it just felt like a lot of people were dogpiling on in a way that felt like a mislynch

uhh, multiball? this doesn't apply here. Even if scum really were dogpiling, it wouldn't make him town

[Bacon and Egg]

He wasn't pushing a cw and shit

He did vote HH

[Bacon and Egg]

What motivation is there to rush with a deadline 9 days away?

Alright why the hell not.

UNVOTE: HH

VOTE: Ika

Someone hammer this.

Is this sudden switch normal, ms?

"no rush, guys, 9 days"

"ok someone hammer"

[Bacon and Egg]

To me it feels like he came to terms with the fact ika is being lynched and that's that.

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uhh, multiball? this doesn't apply here. Even if scum really were dogpiling, it wouldn't make him town

I'm just saying how it felt to me. I get that it's multiball, it still felt like it was being intentionally driven away from Oversoul to me.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Who do you feel pushed it away from Oversoul?

Also isn't it weird that Oversoul himself wasn't voting ika if that was an attempt at a counterwagon?

[Bacon and Egg]

Who do you feel pushed it away from Oversoul?

you missed this, Cheet.

The person who started this "counterwagon" has flipped town so who?

[Bacon and Egg]

I feel like you're parroting Ceph's campaign that was saying the same thing without having any basis for it

[Bacon and Egg]

probably not sonic?

[Bacon and Egg]

I feel like you overestimate how much I rely on how I feel about gamestate over specific details in most cases.

I also feel like you don't understand how I'd play as scum if I was scum here q.q
-cheet

How would you play? Because I can't say I really disagree with this:

Still not a fan of HH, but that's going nowhere because people think they're town for some reason.

Why do you not think they are town?

Mainly whenever I read their posts I get an image of people cackling at the chaos and antagonizing people/reveling in it to further it rather than trying to figure out the game and further a town win.

[Bacon and Egg]

When I win a scumgame I tend to be happy, but anytime between the start of the game and the end, I generally tend to dislike it. So, me cackling isn't really a thing that would be happening regardless? Haha.

Cackling was not the point itself there and I'm sure you know it

[Bacon and Egg]

neh he's still probably town. Though annoying

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Cait dying after pushing away from oversoul is interesting

You think? Like, someone wants to lynch Oversoul and Cait was in the way?

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uhh

why exactly would Oversoul not get lynched after yesterday?

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smart guy

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AP you're townreading HH?

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Did you actually defend him though? I feel like you more tried to push the idea that Oversoul is a better lynch and that ika wasn't readable.

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Either of the kills could have been done by them. Cait would also definitely push them today.

I don't think they are town. Their insistence on Oversoul grew unnatural at some point and I think that's more telling for an ika buddy than an outright defense like Fresh's.

[Bacon and Egg]

I'll give you that Cait was a PR too, but why is Generic dead and not me?

I have been townreading you the whole game, very much unlike Generic. This looks like a great reason to me.

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i did technically say that i didn't see how anyone could have a read on that.

i still don't.

Despite multiple people pointing out how this is his scum meta?

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Like really, one would have to be blind not to see ika was scum after clicking on Tammy's link. It was the exact same.

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I feel like we just made a shitty call

This is the thing.
You shouldn't be thinking this. You only argued that Oversoul was scum, which could still be possible. It makes no sense to apologize for supporting a different lynch even if ika flipped scum.

The fact you are doing it tells me you're feeling guilty about it, which makes me think there was ill intent in trying to push Oversoul over ika.

[Bacon and Egg]

I don't understand what the shitty call is supposed to be about. You were just arguing that you still don't see how people managed to scumread ika.

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I think that establishes AP was right and ZZZX is the cop himself or just lying about the whole thing.

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Well, that at least makes more sense than ns hydrating ZZZX over Psyche.

When did I try to start a lynch on you?

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HH where are you getting that Fresh claiming cop makes him town?

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I could see scum thinking I or Bert could be part of the other team, it's not that preposterous.

The no result part is real, don't worry about that.

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ms, yeah. It was pretty obvious Psyche was the cop already if you looked at Seiko's reads.

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why didn't seiko do this, guys, if he moved so vigorously to hydrate AP during Day 2??
the obvious explanation is that seiko did not think ap was a good hydration choice on night 1
something had to have happened by the end of Night 1 to change his mind

I can answer to that, but I am sure that you know the answer and you don't want me to say it loudly. Do you?

^

[Bacon and Egg]

Nah, the no result part is real. Besides, ZZZX would have to be lying about that too.

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But yeah, I agree with you. The first thought that came to mind was the scum cops in mastin's game.

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because reasons I don't need to reveal. Just know ZZZX is telling the truth

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AP you suck for making me believe that fresh was scum for like 12 hours

Fresh cannot be scum anymore because..?

[Bacon and Egg]

Scum cop is possible?

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Espsy is not a bad lynch, but they're probably a tridra rather than pink. They seemed like they couldn't care less about whether ika would be lynched or not.

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Rethinking about Fresh, I am not actually that sure that a scum cop would be amnesiac. What's the point in it if they can give their results to a buddy and know them via daytalk? Unless there's no daytalk, but still it's a modifier that makes more sense with town.

[Bacon and Egg]

yeah we're definitely not lynching Fresh.

The safest bet for a pink is still HH - if we want a tridra probably Espsy or ZZZX.

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I don't understand this, how is your scum game being insulted? You've played a quite pro-town game and you've stayed away from suspicion, so?

Or is it "I would not defend ika if I was pink"? Because again, you didn't defend him.

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There was a surprise quickwagon on ika, I don't think you necessarily had the chance to carefully analyze what was best to do and what not. It's called pressure.

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mate, I consider myself a pretty good scum player, yet I make lots of mistakes under pressure. It's not something that you can always control.

[Bacon and Egg]

random is still town

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TWIE do you have any reads at this point?

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less talk about what I am and what I'm not please

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If you are telling me the no result is true, then Bacon isn't town.

How does this follow?

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Titus you are not some newbie. I am not going to answer that.

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no

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Btw ap, why did you claim you got hydrated?

[Bacon and Egg]

The summary is most likely both teams shot Seiko and failed

[Bacon and Egg]

Also espsy is at L-2 now

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Fresh, your slot was the one that got hydrated N1, so unless you're claiming scum, that's impossible.

[Bacon and Egg]

Seiko absorbed both kills. He was the only PR at the time, and therefore the top candidate for both scumteams. It is obvious that this is what happened.

[Bacon and Egg]

What Titus says applies here too. Say I was a commuter and I claimed. Wouldn't that tell scum whether they can shoot me or not?

What info would me claiming add to the game that we don't have already?

[Bacon and Egg]

That's your problem? I am not about to tip off scum about what they should best do just so you can feel better about me. There are not lots of possibilities that explain a no result, many have already been brought up, put two and two together.

[Bacon and Egg]

If you want to detunnel though you could talk with me about why you suspect me in the first place. You mentioned I tried to start a wagon on you, which never happened. Is there anything else?

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Do you have a problem with being suspected? Someone not liking things you do and saying that does not automatically means they want your lynch to happen. Your ika switch was bad, especially given what ika flipped, what would you have thought in my shoes?

Your VCA thing is completely flawed (as is anything related to VCA, really). If you find a town game of mine where I wasn't on all/most of the mislynches, I'll be surprised.

[Bacon and Egg]

Seiko + their hydration target are the only possible reasons for a no kill to happen that night.

No, just Seiko. Psyche received his power at the start of D2.

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Does BP work like that though?
Kills happen simultaneously.

All protective power roles that may or may not be in the set up protect from all possible kills

[Bacon and Egg]

VOTE: espsy

L-1

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Espsy/Oversoul tridras, HH pink?

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Also lol at randomidget 12 for pink after Mario's push on him

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you're also voting randomidget, so no difference

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I've believed you're scum since D1, so I don't know what you're talking about

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What is your read on HH/ who do you think are pink with ika?

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you asked me who you should vote, if you don't care for alternatives just die

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I swear to god half the players in this game are just lurking and then bitching every time someone calls them scum.

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if zzzx survives and wins this for his team im going to be very sad

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meanwhile I don't think HH is scum anymore... for now

If he is, he's doing a good job

neh he's still pink, it's easy to post like this when a tridra is about to be lynched

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There is pretty much no town role that Bacon could reasonably be here that would get a no result.

think again

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Refusal to claim is just dumb and probably because they can't claim a town role that explains the no result.

lol'd

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I'm not claiming, and we're not lynching me. We're lynching Espsy. If I'm alive tomorrow, maybe.

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are you fucking kidding me?

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you're right, my hydrate is apparently

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VOTE: sonic boom

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yep that's exactly what you did

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how couldnt you love it? doing nothing and getting saved by a random counterwagon can only be dreamed of

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except I'm still pretty obviously town so yeah

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you know pretty well that there's no fucking way i would ever flip scum, so you can cut the pretense

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no titus cop checks coming back as nothing means scum, you've caught me

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dat comparison

Oversoul had done nothing at all in the game and people wanted to lynch him while he was on V/LA instead of waiting

You not only have 3 fucking heads 2 of which have been lurking all game, but you have done plenty of things that have showed you are scum.

The two cannot even start to compare.

[Bacon and Egg]

if we honestly lynch wisdom game is probably done for and espsy and his tridras win

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or whoever i hydrated suddenly forgot they were hydrated and claim like nothing happened

hint hint

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You don't make any sense. You supposedly suspect me because AP is a commuter and I can't be anything else that gives cops a no result. What does hydrated being protected has to do with that?

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I still don't follow. Are you saying that this would make me town because I could be hider or what?

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Wis Hydrate scum

talk to me about this again?

In this scenario AP is a commuter, I am ?, and the scum I hydrated does what?

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like i would ever hydrate you

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No, you answer now because not only this isn't clear, it's nonsense.

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No, you answer now because not only this isn't clear, it's nonsense.

So the only way you can be town you're calling non-sense, real sharp one you are.

~Titus

explain that way pls

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You just gotta read between the lines with Wisdom. I counterclaim that I have received no such hydration.

dude get over yourself. i wasnt talking about you.

[Bacon and Egg]

The only thing that looks close to an explanation is that I hydrated a scum roleblocker who blocked the cop?

This is obviously not the case because a) I know what stopped the cop and b) ZZZX still got a message meaning the cop couldn't have been blocked.

So?

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The last time Titus went so hard against setup logic to prove elephants aren't elephants she was scum, so

[Bacon and Egg]

I assume it's because it's unthinkable there's something else that generates a no result given AP being a commuter

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Nothing stopped me Bacon. Unless ZZZX is lying. Rather I think you instead are.

You're not reading, that's exactly what I said

[Bacon and Egg]

I am reading. I'm restating the obvious.

No, you're not reading. I explained to Titus the exact thing you're telling me yet you're acting like I argued it instead.

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Yeah, that's called a tunnel. I shouldn't be claiming and I've already told you why.

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UNVOTE:

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well I didn't expect someone would find it, even if it's partial, but since ms did, it's time.

I am an 1-shot Neighborizer. On N2, I neighborized and hydrated TWIE. Last night, TWIE told me he had received a rolestopper, and I asked him to use it on me since I would be the most likely kill. He agreed.

Also. Titus is right that hydrates are immune to kills. In my new role PM, apart from my role, there was a note that I was immune to nightkills that night. This is why I was pretty certain that on N1 both scum shot Seiko and Seiko absorbed the kills. The problem with this is that Cait died. Titus assumed a strongman, but this is not possible, because TWIE is confirmed rolestopper since there was no result on me, AP had not been hydrated yet, and Fresh is confirmed cop since ZZZX is receiving the results. Unless ZZZX lied about either the no result, or about receiving the cop results. Another possible explanation is that the immunity thing was just for the first two nights, so that the hydrates aren't picked off.

Something interesting is that I did talk to TWIE last night about this, because he was arguing scum might go for Cait instead. So if TWIE is scum, one scumteam knew about it - probably the one that killed Generic. Titus assuming this out of nowhere could very likely mean she was informed about this by TWIE.

TWIE refusing he was hydrated and even insisting on asking me why I didn't hydrate in my list is also something that annoys me, but I could probably understand him doing it so that he isn't outed. Either that or he's scum and doesn't want people to know he was hydrated.

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Oh and flavor is, Antihero -> purple hero. Now that I'm a proven hero, I can choose a sidekick to accompany me (paraphrase)

[Bacon and Egg]

mara you're missing things
Espsy is voting me, Fresh is hydrating Sonic Boom

[Bacon and Egg]

I think it's just for the day hydrates. Night hydrates get it at the end of the night, therefore there would be no immunity for them

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please tell us about the contents of your neighborhood

mostly what I already said, plus me asking him what his reads are and getting generic answers (no pun intended)
He was mostly silent like he's here.

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I don't see why a rolestopper couldn't be town. He did use it on me as he said he would, as confirmed by the cop getting no result, so I believed he was legit.

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wat

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I understand you acting like you weren't hydrated but wtf is the point in denying it now?

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I assumed that was to cover the fact you were hydrated?

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So we have a one v one with Bacon and TWIE...

Bacon, can you answer my other questions and why you hydrated TWIE?

Is that a real question? Who did I want hydrated in D2 and it just wouldn't happen?

[Bacon and Egg]

Are you fucking kidding me? "it got fucked with"? All the discussion about why you shouldn't rolestop Cait because she would be immune, me asking you to chill because HH is town, all that was fucked with?

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Or when I asked you what your flavor and what it turned to and you ignored me?

That was fucked with too?

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i dont know why you decided it's wise to claim scum but i'll take it

VOTE: twie

[Bacon and Egg]

i love how i'm supposedly lying yet you aren't voting me

[Bacon and Egg]

What's wrong? Scared that when I flip you're a goner?

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I don't see why a rolestopper couldn't be town. He did use it on me as he said he would, as confirmed by the cop getting no result, so I believed he was legit.

how would a role stopper make a cop have no results?????

I asked Mara. A rolestopper who rolestops a cop's target returns no result to the cop.

[Bacon and Egg]

The fuck TWIE

Only if quoting a PT wasn't rulebreaking.

You saying singer deserving that lynch, crying why sonic boom wasn't bogged yet, you waffling on BY
it's all there

[Bacon and Egg]

Townreads: TWIE, Sonic, HH, Psyche

~Wis

hey wis how come you didnt hydrate someone off this list.

Like, I made this post in day 3.

Any scenario that requires me helping BE after this post doesnt really make sense.

Yeah
because it was the whole plan to hide the secret hydrate

[Bacon and Egg]

Bogged->vigged

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BY -> HH
phone correct op

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Don't tempt me
quoting PT is illegal

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I mean if I really want to cut it dangerous the last post in the PT was Sunday past midnight by wisdom

This is the first time I've ever felt a need of neighborizer more than 1 shot

[Bacon and Egg]

Bacon, why did you target TWIE?

Because he was one of my top town reads yet I couldn't get anyone to agree to hydrate him during the day

[Bacon and Egg]

Are you guys fucking kidding me? Why the fuck would I claim a fucking fiction? How can't it be fucking obvious TWIE is lying his ass off here?

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Like tell me what the fuck my plan was? To claim something that is going to be immediately counterclaimed and get lynched?

How fucking retarded would someone have to be to claim something that didn't happen and it can be proven instantly?

TWIE wins one night, one lynch that is not their team, that's what he gets by denying this. How the fuck can you not see the obvious?

[Bacon and Egg]

man, for someone who was mostly silent and gave generic answers, I sure did a lot of talking.

Compared to how many of my posts you fucking ignored, you are calling that not being silent?

[Bacon and Egg]

We can hydrate Psyche.

We can hydrate TWIE.

We can hydrate Sonic. We can hydrate Generic.

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After TWIE asked me what he asked me on D3, about why I didn't hydrate one of my town reads, I figured he was doing it on purpose to not out himself, so I went along with it. I was obviously not going to allow a hydrate on him happen and that's why I didn't pursue it.

[Bacon and Egg]

suppose you are a scum ascetic here, what would you have done? there aren't a lot of options.

Claim town ascetic? Crumb hider and claim it?

I mean, I would have known I am a scum ascetic since N2, I would have had plenty of time to crumb something different. Why the fuck go for a fiction?

[Bacon and Egg]

Or are you telling me that Mara would make a scum ascetic and not give them a fakeclaim while also having a commuter in the game?

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Hell even counterclaiming AP on commuter or trying to argue duplicates would be better than outright lying about something this provable. Just why the hell? I am not this fucking bad.

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The funniest thing is I'm talking to like 5 scum here, but there are some of you who are town. Open your eyes. I don't make any fucking sense as scum.

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AP tell me why the fuck I didn't counterclaim you please. I have been fighting with you all game, if I wanted to 1v1 someone wouldn't it MUCH FUCKING BETTER for me to 1v1 with you over something MUCH MORE believable than a fiction story that would get rejected right away?

[Bacon and Egg]

ARe my posts getting eaten?

Bacon last reads please.

~Titus

My posts are the ones that are getting eaten if you are asking for "last" reads.

You can still vote scum. But you're probably scum yourself so yeah

[Bacon and Egg]

I haven't been lynched as town since like 2 years ago. congratz

[Bacon and Egg]

anyway this setup was atrocious so i dont care much

more in endgame