Red Wine Mafia: Game Over

[Llamarble]

That's a sign of me at my very best!
I think it was Shadoweh who said I was on the good stuff right after I got on track in Yoloville?

[BBmolla]

okily dokily

[Cephrir]

Wow. You bringing that up got me to actually look at the game in question, and, holy shit. He's way more emotional and tonally... open? transparent? in that game. The difference is pretty shocking, and I suck at meta.

I wish I had two votes.

His play in that game is fluid and reactive to the changing game state.

If you had two votes why would you divide them?

You know what I mean

I can't read players on drugs, so kindly refrain.

Albert is playing like a Jester.

[Espeonage]

Lol, I have a 100% win rate as Jester on day 1.

I'm back, I've been following through my VLA when peeps have been doing stuff but I'm going to go back through and post my thoughts. I did see the meta argument, and I can't really compete against that conclusion, this is different to how I played that game, then again that's only one game. I don't believe I'm that clear cut but ok.

Cabd, as someone that is reading Tammy as really scummy, I find your faith in her seriously disturbing. You and ffery will bring some really cool stuff I feel, I don't think there's enough day to do that today though.

But yeah, Imma go read back.

[Espeonage]

And I think people are bandwagoning a read on Pjovek as Town - he spammed and now he's lurking and I hate that because it's unnatural.

I was reading an old game of mine a couple of weeks ago where a VI I really liked playing with was mafia and he played the game like a harp and only really got killed because PoE for Cult Recruiter. And frankly, I'm terrible at reading VIs I've realised. I think it's a psychological thing because I used to think I was a terrible player (I was).

But yeah this post rings of truth, and it'd be pretty cool if we come back to this tomorrow or I guess today is chamber wants to get off his bum.

[Espeonage]

Also, in addition to the first post I made.

Cabd's gambits. I'm not sure how they usually go down, but everything here seems really half arsed. A curve ball is a curve ball but the drunkposting seems really really terrible as a gambit. I'm all for getting drunk and posting because it changes your perception of posts. That's fine, it's why I always used to pull an all nighter for Marathon days because I play better when tired. But that was just poor form last night.

[Cabd]

There's a list of them on my wiki page.

[Espeonage]

Also TSO and Katsuki is like the new ffery and Cabd, but I'm not as sure if it's scum/town as I am with ffery, it seems more tunneling, which I'll live with at this point as they seem less cryptic and decietful than Cabd and ffery.

PEDIT: K, I'll go squizz it later.

[Espeonage]

@Cabd: Two things.
1. Can't find the gambits list.
2. I've got a gambit for you. Saying your game revolves around meta, then saying you pride your scum game to make people think that you have distinctive factors that make up your good scum play only to not do any of it as scum because don't want to be meta read correctly.

[Espeonage]

Conversely, I don't feel Tammy and Cabd would be scum together, it doesn't add up with Tammy's response to the whole meta thing from ages ago.

[Espeonage]

Unvote, vote TSO

Why would I be scum? I'm not really too focused on this game right now, I need more kills to determine who is scum.

Ok, preliminary reads, outside of self preservation motivations?

[fferyllt]

Albert is playing like a Jester.

Is that a serious speculation?

[fferyllt]

Cabd, as someone that is reading Tammy as really scummy, I find your faith in her seriously disturbing. You and ffery will bring some really cool stuff I feel, I don't think there's enough day to do that today though.

There's almost a week still on the clock.

[Espeonage]

Cabd, as someone that is reading Tammy as really scummy, I find your faith in her seriously disturbing. You and ffery will bring some really cool stuff I feel, I don't think there's enough day to do that today though.

There's almost a week still on the clock.

???

[Cephrir]

Albert is playing like a Jester.

Is that a serious speculation?

Mostly no. I'm not gonna lie though, I went back into the queue and looked to see whether there could possibly be a jester. If you look at the exact wording of the question asked in the large theme queue, there is actually room for Jesters to slip through it.

[fferyllt]

Cabd, as someone that is reading Tammy as really scummy, I find your faith in her seriously disturbing. You and ffery will bring some really cool stuff I feel, I don't think there's enough day to do that today though.

There's almost a week still on the clock.

???

myko added some days to Day 1 because of Nati's replace-in.

What are you talking about re Cabd and me that can't be aired out in that length of time?

[fferyllt]

Albert is playing like a Jester.

Is that a serious speculation?

Mostly no. I'm not gonna lie though, I went back into the queue and looked to see whether there could possibly be a jester. If you look at the exact wording of the question asked in the large theme queue, there is actually room for Jesters to slip through it.

I did the same a couple days ago. To me, jester seems outside the spirit of that disclaimer if not the letter.

[Cephrir]

Yes, yes it is.

[Espeonage]

I appear to have missed that ffery.

Eh I guess we can deal with it today. I'd rather lynch Tammy that go after cabd. And your wagon dissolved.

[fferyllt]

I appear to have missed that ffery.

Eh I guess we can deal with it today. I'd rather lynch Tammy that go after cabd. And your wagon dissolved.

You sound like you think it's more likely I'm the scum of the pair of us, so I fail to see why you'd put Cabd even in the hypothetical alternate spot to Tammy.

[Espeonage]

Did you read my recent posts this page, I'm feeling worse about cabd as of the last ten or so pages?

[fferyllt]

Also TSO and Katsuki is like the new ffery and Cabd,

but I'm not as sure if it's scum/town as I am with ffery

, it seems more tunneling, which I'll live with at this point as

they seem less cryptic and decietful than Cabd and ffery

.

I'm seeing my name here in proximity to "scum" and both our names in proximity to "deceitful".

I realize you'e expressed greater concerns about Cabd over his drunkposting+gambit. I don't get any sense that your read of me has changed.

And your attack here on Tammy/Cabd has a sideways innuendo feel to it that's in contrast to your direct FoSes and questions in the game that projectmatt dug up.

[Espeonage]

I used FoSes? Sheeeet. I'm pretty sure I can pull up times where I've lynched people for using that term. I might have to properly read that game again.

As for the bolded, simple typo in the first part. And it's hard to tell, I really don't see you both as scum. I wouldn't say you've gone down, more that others have come up in scumminess.

[fferyllt]

You didn't say "FoS this" or somesuch that I recall from reading your ISo. Accusations and expressed suspicions.

[Espeonage]

Fair nuff, that sounds more like something I'd do. I used to live by say it no matter what if you think it as town. But then I used to either get lynched really early or got kept around forever because my reads were terrible.