Mini 1708: Mafia Café [Game Over!]

[Metal Sonic]

I'm thinking more of ASP -> Dierfire -> Titus

but i think lynching ASP will end the game so whatever

[Titus]

I could go Dierfire.

No interest in ASP ATM.

[Metal Sonic]

if you have information that would make him innocent do claim it before we lynch his sorry ass

[JohnnyFarrar]

I don't even remember who direfire is

[Metal Sonic]

he replaced marvin martian guy. that dude was pretty town

[JohnnyFarrar]

Meh

If we're making 'kill them please' lists I'd like ASP, Fitz, and Titus to go. Titus before lylo. Otherwise I don't care about order.

[Metal Sonic]

yeah lets make the 'kill them please' lists

sounds fun

[Metal Sonic]

while we twiddle our thumbs and wait

[JohnnyFarrar]

I mean this entire game is waiting for me at this point. If I somehow continue to survive nights and we don't hit scum before lylo I'll start paying attention again, but that's not likely so we voting yo

[Aristophanes]

Please kill lists, eh?
I'd have to go with ASP, Direfire, Titus.

Fitz, why does Johnny land on your list?
Titus, why no interest in ASP?

[Dierfire]

Oh, that reminds me:

@Aristophanes

I have my scumspects and will analyse them during the night. Expect some stuff come D3. No point stating them now.

What did your analysis find?

[JohnnyFarrar]

Did Fitz do something super townie that I forgot?

[Dierfire]

Apparently he pushed FSS hard enough that Radiant thought that he had a guilty result?

[JohnnyFarrar]

Oh right he's the one who had that wagon on him because he doesn't back anything up. Like a less ridiculous Titus. Yeah he could die.

[Titus]

Dierfire and umm Dierfire.

Oh it's supposed to be a list?

No inside info making ASP town. Just don't think he's scum.

[A Simple Plan]

Sonic if you're scum and did that to your partner you deserve the win but I never wanna play with you again. As it stands you're town fo' life.

I'm inclined to believe Sonic is town, but I think this takes it a little too far, and your willingness to insta-sheep is discomforting. It almost feels like buddying.

#1 - I do not understand the Lynx NK at all.  Thank you scum.
#2 - Expressing #1 doesn't make one scum.

#3 - We have 3 lynches to hit scum.  See #5.

#4 - The 4 players most locked in as town IMO are me for role PM and my Davsto and FSS pushes, Aristophanes for RC & for slot's Davsto and FSS pushes, Dierfire for slot's Davsto and FSS pushes, and Metal for slot's Davsto and FSS pushes.  Yes I've heard of the concept of bussing, but I am not going to be voting anyone who has voted 2 scum.   

#5 - As long as these three: ASP, Titus, Johnny are the three to go; as necessary, I'm not too concerned with what order they fall in....though I prefer this one ->  ASP, Titus, Johnny.

Happy to vote ASP today...but will wait a few RL days at least to see what conversation happens to happen. 

Bit of a change of heart about your slot. I'll give you credit for you analysis, but Johnny is slowly retreating back to null for me, not yet on a lynch list. I'll explain my Titus read later, but this helps you out some.

I mean this entire game is waiting for me at this point. If I somehow continue to survive nights and we don't hit scum before lylo I'll start paying attention again, but that's not likely so we voting yo

This sounds a little to confident, Johnny. I'm starting to have second thoughts about my townread on you based off of this and your sheeping/town for life on Metal, as if you're certain about peopleM and you're okay watching way too many people die- literally everyone except Metal and Aristo, two of the more likely town players in the game to p.much everyone. I'd love to hear some explanation on your reads.

-not sure how I feel about titus' 1039, because of the lack of explanation for a townread on me, which, I'll admit to having been largely unhelpful and inactive, but it feels like a plea for town cred post-flip, which judging by the attitudes here is all but guaranteed to come anyway.

I'm not sure where Dierfire plays into all this.

Top 3 to lynch:
-Titus
-Fitz (definitely lives another day)
-Johnny

[A Simple Plan]

P-edit: actually, after thinking it through, apparently he does make the lynch list after all...

[JohnnyFarrar]

If the town loses this game it'll be because either Sonic or Bells played an excellent scum game and they deserve the win. As it stands, we can lynch three people. Ari's not getting lynched, Sonic's not getting lynched, so in my head we've got a 3/4 chance of hitting scum. That's why I'm confident. You wanna disagree? Tell me what either of them could possibly do to be considered scum considering Bells' treatment of Dav and Sonic's treatment of Stool. Don't do the paranoia thing, it's ruined too many games.

[Titus]

Johnny, I will do the paranoia thing if I want. I go where the evidence leads me.

[Aristophanes]

Alright, so I reISO'd everyone and I stand by my Lynch-List.

Metal is town. If anyone wants to fight me on that, come at me, because he's about as town as anyone can get.

Johnny reads as Town-Johnny. Maybe he's a little gung-ho on sheeping Metal, but that's not out of character if he has such a strong townread.

ASP seemed to stay away from a hard read on FSS while lightly disliking the wagon. Also, in 125 he listed Jester, Davs, and Johnny as for sure containing a scum withing the three. He then never voted them nor really pushed any suspicions on them. This looks to me like he tossed a scummate's name in with two town in order to give himself some flex room, either to look back and go "told ya so" or "well, I said one of the three" depending how it went.

Titus was so sure Stool was obvtown and voted him really begrudgingly. Their push for Chaos was weird as many had her as a strong townread. They then died that night. I could believe Titus was trying to save their last scummate, thus hardpushing that their claim makes them obvtown. That and the potential wine of "Why would I kill Omega? I was scumreading them!" make me raise an eyebrow. The only thing that has me hesitating is that I know Titus is better than to defend a scummate so overtly.

Direfire hasn't really done anything since replacing in. They asked me a couple times for reads, soft-defended FSS, and tried to push Sonic upon arrival. This is their only vote to date and it happened right in the middle of the FSS wagon. They're the best candidate for scum I can see.

Fitz was so anti-Stool I can't see them being scummates. If so, that was some ruthless insistence on their being lynched when it really wasn't necessary. Other than that he's been well rounded in asking questions and thorough with his answers.

So, I'm going to change my list order: Direfire, ASP, Titus.

VOTE: Direfire

[Titus]

VOTE: Dierfire

Yes!

[JohnnyFarrar]

Sure

VOTE: Fire

[havingfitz]

That's L-1 against Dierfire and the only case presented on him is by Aristophanes and it's crap. Hasn't done anything since replacing in? How about his predecessor? The one who was totally committed to the demise of two scum? And of course two on my list jump on the Dierfire without a second thought.

Aristo...you made better points against Titus and ASP. Please move back to ASP.

In addition to this day being poised to end quicker than it should we're not looking at the right person. People advocating the Dierfire wagon are essentially saying his slot (i.e. Magoo) pushed for his partner's lynch ALL of D1 when there was plenty of interest in at least 1 alternative (The_Jester). Then D2...all Magoo did was camp on FSS all day. So up until Dierfire joined the game...all the slot did was vote scum. His wagon is bullshit.

I agree it is unlikely that Metal is scum and so Dierfire's vote yesterday was misplaced...but that still remains to be seen. And anyone willing to hardbus both of their partners into the grave (which I do not think Magoo/Dierfire did) deserves to last longer in this game than people with questionable actions (or absence of anything helpful) such Johnny who hasn't got anything right the entire game and just likes to lounge about and "try" to be witty; and ASP (see Johnny comments minus the "try" to be witty bit).

So much for waiting....

VOTE: ASP

[Dierfire]

Well, that was fast.

[Dierfire]

Aristophanes is probably Town, although I'm not sure whether he's reading his own posts.
It's difficult for me to get a read on Johnny. I'll have to think a bit more about FSS and the tracker result.
I forget why Titus was voting me. Something about my vote on Sonic?
Sonic is 100% clear.
I'm liking Fitz as well.
I need to read ASP more.