Mini 1834: Biker Wars: Blood in the Streets (Game over!)

[Untrod Tripod]

ehhhhhhhhhhhhh I dunno I actually want to lynch Gear more than farside

unvote vote Gear

[Parama]

Eager, what happened to your suspicion of parama?

btw this looks like desperate deflection.
"hey eager. hey. hey eager. what about parama. hey eager look at parama. hey"

I'm still town!

posts like this continue to make me doubt this assertion. you dodge the entire argument by just going "lol but I'm town". something town has no reason to do.

[Parama]

okay..you guys, quit spamming thread.

UT - tell me why you think farside is scum, thus voting her.
farisde - tell me why you didnt claim.
farside - what makes you think parama claimed JK
rach - do fucking something, you are on the worthless side of this game.

Explained.
Just felt like it was a soft claim and I missed some of the back and forth dialog.
Plus he asked if scum could do both a PR and kill, it reads like he is ready to try to fake claim at this point.

proposing a theory is just that, a theory.
and I want to know the answer because it helps us make sense of night actions better but I guess mod isn't gonna answer.

[Parama]

this game took a lolturn d3

hey just because you're not the best thing since sliced bread doesn't mean I don't wanna hear your opinion on stuff. okay?

[Parama]

the way ckd is talking about an SK isn't stupid, it's the way other people are saying LOLOLOL MAYBE THERE'S AN SK WHO DO YOU THINK IT IS I MIGHT NEED TO SHOOT THEM TONIGHT BECAUSE I'M TOTALLY NOT SCUM OR MAYBE IF THERE'S A VIG COULD YOU OUT YOURSELF PLEASE I'M TOTALLY TOWN FOR DOING THIS

Parama hinted that snake maybe protected.

I wonder why.
Not like he was obv town and a claimed pr
Not like there was one less kill n2 than n1
Not like I ever said it was the only possibility, just the one that makes the most sense to me

but why do I bother. Literally everything I have ever done in this game has scum motivation apparently, or at least according to you it does

[Parama]

@UT pretty sure farside brought up sk in the first place but I'm on phone and can't check for confidence

[kuribo]

Gear writing off everyone but farside as probably town is my biggest problem with lynching the slot


Looking at his ISO it doesn't feel like he's trying to leave his options open the way scum would

[kuribo]

okay..you guys, quit spamming thread.

UT - tell me why you think farside is scum, thus voting her.
farisde - tell me why you didnt claim.
farside - what makes you think parama claimed JK
rach - do fucking something, you are on the worthless side of this game.

Explained.
Just felt like it was a soft claim and I missed some of the back and forth dialog.
Plus he asked if scum could do both a PR and kill, it reads like he is ready to try to fake claim at this point.

proposing a theory is just that, a theory.
and I want to know the answer because it helps us make sense of night actions better but I guess mod isn't gonna answer.

But there's considerable harm in proposing half-Ass theories.

[kuribo]

okay..you guys, quit spamming thread.

UT - tell me why you think farside is scum, thus voting her.
farisde - tell me why you didnt claim.
farside - what makes you think parama claimed JK
rach - do fucking something, you are on the worthless side of this game.

Explained.
Just felt like it was a soft claim and I missed some of the back and forth dialog.
Plus he asked if scum could do both a PR and kill, it reads like he is ready to try to fake claim at this point.

proposing a theory is just that, a theory.
and I want to know the answer because it helps us make sense of night actions better but I guess mod isn't gonna answer.

But there's considerable harm in proposing half-Ass theories.

That was more regarding The Whole "SK INSTEAD OF VIG" speculation, thought that was what the bit about "proposing a theory" meant until I re-read it.

[Parama]

yeah I was talking about the night actions and stuff. I'll worry about whether or not there's an SK if we have three dead maf and game is still ongoing

[curiouskarmadog]

we are not in a situation where we need to worry about an SK...BUT I think it is worth people keeping in the back of their minds.

[kuribo]

I'd suggest mass claim at this point except the vig absolutely shouldn't claim if he has shots left, plus the tracker is claimed. The scum RB won't claim, obviously, so I don't know what good it would do my sanity to watch six people claim VT

[curiouskarmadog]

I thought about a massclaim. but dont think it is needed today.

[farside22]

so you are saying he claimed because he did some theorizing of game mechanics?

That does not look to me like he is saying I am a JK and I jailed snake.

He theorized what happened with one less kill.
Like why can't it be possible that kraska was a scum kill instead of snake?

[curiouskarmadog]

I am probably not going to look at this, this weekend. because...

I am sick of you people(?).

[farside22]

Gear writing off everyone but farside as probably town is my biggest problem with lynching the slot


Looking at his ISO it doesn't feel like he's trying to leave his options open the way scum would

Parama did that day one and day 2, shock oh my reads changed....oh farside wagon vote......yeah that read change was tote special.

[Parama]

if you have time to post so much why don't you have time to compile a proper case, farside?

[Parama]

for the record I have no clue what 1065 is trying to say?

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE COUNT

farside22 (2): Parama, curiouskarmadog
Gear (3): eagerSnake, RachMarie, Untrod Tripod
Parama (1): farside22
Not voting (2): kuribo, Gear

With

8

players alive, it takes

5

votes to lynch a player.

Day 3 ends in (expired on 2016-10-19 14:36:38).

v/la today thru Sunday btw

Noted.

[farside22]

Spoiler:

well my top town read died and flipped town

I am town reading snake and kuribo

I need to iso para and far and sort through all that back and forth, but my experiences with that level of obtuseness on the part of two players having a go at each other usually ends up being TvT so for now both para and far go in my town pile as prob town.

scum reading Aris he felt off from what I remember on D1 plus of course snake's claim. I still would like to give the dude a chance to respond and claim and reads and all.

With two deaths, we either have a SK or we have someone in town with killing power. If they are a vig they need to keep mum at this point. I am leaning vig based on the nk of snarky, because I can't see a sk getting rid of snarky.

That is what I have so far.

Mostly because I am irked by trying to catch up and having the hammer taken out of my hand

Far is at L-1?

Jeeze let a girl catch up a bit why dontcha

ok well I think gear is scumz so yeah

that is where my vote is going

I am not yet sold on far or para not being a TvT froofroo

Feel pretty good about Kuribo, snake (obviously), and UT being town,

VOTE: Gear

Because I wanted to catch up get my reads more solidified and give Ari time to actually comment,

Not happy with the quick hammer and also not happy with Ari throwing a fit

means town loses important info going into the night phase.

meh

UNVOTE:

snake dude, not a good idea to antagonize long time players.

I am voting gear because I think he is scumz

I am not sold on either para or far being scum yet.

I can't go into detail on my para read but he feels towny to me.

Usually when you have two players going at it hammer and tongs they both turn out to be town. I feel better about my town read on para over far though.

Snake is obv town but needs to cool his jets down a bit.

Kuribo is town

ckd is town.

UT is town

INTENT TO HAMMER

All this is in regards to my scum read on rach.

She talked about catching up still on day 2, this was after she was back from v/LA from day 2 by the way.
Day 3 comes around and she makes a few vague reads and the only scum read she speaks of is gear.
Throughout she says multiple times she thought Parama me was TvT.
However once I get to l-1, she gives intent to hammer.
Never before stating a scum read on me and this was after complaining about a quick wagon on arti day 2.

Add to that there is some meta references in regards to rach that I know, where she is more logical and forthright that are completely lacking this game.

[RachMarie]

Yeah sorry forgot there was time in this game uggh

too many deadlines going on, I still think gear is more likely

The sticky point for me on scum far is would she double bus like that? Does anyone have experience with far bussing?

[Parama]

man it's a good thing i took v/la this weekend, i'm missing so much

[kuribo]

It's for the better. I'm double shifts this weekend and short staffed so I'm grumpy as hell

[farside22]

Here is why Parama is scum with arti and cakez.

First you have parama stating he has a scum read on cakez and multiple times having issues with cakez like this
But not once did parama ever vote cakez.



After Eager said he followed Aristo to Grey, Parama was like we should wait for a claim here and look aristo gives a fake claim right before hammer.


I don't think so, looks like a set up to me to help his scum buddy.

Then you get Aristo who doesn't ever interacted barely with Parama iso


Finally if you read Cakez Iso he attacks me and has a warped scum team here
All while putting down the points I had against him here




Many times on day 1 Parama continues the push on me rather then Cakez, why? There is the million dollar question. Was it to save his scum buddy or a serious read? If not why continue the read after Cakez flip? Parama never said he thought we were scum together or pointed out how that was possible.

In short Parama fits all the scum aspects of scum buddies with the 2 flipped scums and should be lynched.



Vote aint moving unless the rach wagon goes.

[Parama]

1. because i vote my strongest scumread
2.

Somebody hammer Aristophanes. Protective role on me, Killing role on Parama, I'll do my job.

Gut feeling moment with Parama attitude and my scum read on him I don't think he would blantenly wait for scum buddy to fake claim.

Just wait for arti to claim on this.

Yes, I am so obviously scum with aristo because I wanted to wait for him to claim.
You can't possibly be this dense.
3. Aristo barely interacted with you too. He barely interacted with anyone, because he didn't post a ton. There are living players that he interacted less with than either of us.
4. I think this argument works AGAINST you, actually. I'd expect scum to put one of their buddies in their scumlist. And, well, eager ain't it, and ckd ain't it. This is actually hilarious because this has nothing to do with why I'm scum with Cakez, it only has to do why you AREN'T. So it's irrelevant to begin with.
5. again, because you were my preferred lynch of the day.

well, that was fun.