Mini 1627: Ninja Mini Mafia

[Formerfish]

Intent to hammer Drake

48 hours so we can use the remaining days

I feel like I've explained why earlier and his recent posts show 'scum/town that doesn't care' and neither attitude helps town. That 1108 literally asks to be lynched. I'm also worried that the wagon is getting apathetic and just forgetting about itself (like how the boys forgot Simon in

Lord of the Flies

, just stopped caring).

Also, Formerfish, I was waiting for Goblin's replacement to come in and answer questions before voting the guy, because I assumed Goblin couldn't/wouldn't play Mafia. The replacement, you, played townish so I didn't see the need to vote.

This pings me as all kinds of bad.
First, Drake isn't even at l-1, so hammer isn't exactly in play right now.
Second, is saying he literally asked to be lynched which is a misrep of what he actually said. What Drake is doing is falling on his sword to get a lynch through if that's what needs to happen.
Third, no one has forgotten about the wagon or that we have a deadline coming close...ish. We still have 4 days, which is plenty of time to switch gears if needed.

re: Goblin- with me replacing in you've lost all interest, so it seems, in trying to sort me and have given what seems like a town hand wave. Am I not an easily mislynch know and you've lost interest in persuing me?

[Varsoon]

Yeah, I was gonna say, Zebulin's post is all sorts of sideways and weird and just wrong.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Varsoon, you're doing some serious buddying up to Fish.

Is he

that

strong of a town-read?

[Formerfish]

BBT how did you feel reading Zebs last post?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I don't know.

When I first read it I didn't see much wrong with it. After reading your post I can kind of see where you're coming from, it's like he's trying to subtly push the Drake wagon without bringing too much attention to himself whilst doing so.

Something does feel off about it.

[Formerfish]

This is going to sound stupid, but I think its the throwaway line from Lord of the Flies that's bugging me most.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Yeah, that doesn't really make much sense.

Why is that so?

[Varsoon]

If it's buddying to say "Oh man, I was just gonna say that"
I have more buddies than I thought.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

It's not just that though is it.

Like, your very first interaction was 'Good shit, Fish!' or something along those lines.

Will look into it further when I get some more time.

[Varsoon]

Oh, yeah, because his post was good shit.
Way better than the other guy in his slot.

[Boonskiies]

Trust tells are when you say something like,
"I only do X as this alignment"

For instance, for awhile, I was always claiming my alignment 100% truthfully.
This made the game unfair, because it grants a certain advantage but it also against scum wincon until the trust tell is broken.

The big difference from just falling into easy patterns and a trust tell, though, is that the trust tell is usually intentional and manufactured.
Like, if you went into every game and bolded your first post if you were town, and then called attention to the fact that you only bold first posts if you are town.
That sort of thing.

I'm self meta'ing, not trust telling then.

[Boonskiies]

So, two leading wagons are;

Drake;

Orc, Boon, Konowa, BBT

BBT;

Xiao, Fish, Varsoon

One of those wagons is town as fuck.

The other one isn't.

Let's see if we can work this out.

Keep in mind, all 4 of us on the Drake wagon were on the Thor wagon. Thor flipped scum. There is

at least

one scum in Xiao/Fish/Varsoon.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

That's a good point.

The problem is, I could see any of them being scum. Though, I do feel quite a bit better about Fish after our recent discussions.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I think it goes Varsoon > Xiao > Fish for me.

[Xiao Long]

So, two leading wagons are;

Drake;

Orc, Boon, Konowa, BBT

BBT;

Xiao, Fish, Varsoon

One of those wagons is town as fuck.

The other one isn't.

Let's see if we can work this out.

Keep in mind, all 4 of us on the Drake wagon were on the Thor wagon. Thor flipped scum. There is

at least

one scum in Xiao/Fish/Varsoon.

lol? Can you explain how this logic works? Because Drake flipped scum, it clears everyone on the Drake wagon?

[Xiao Long]

Also, BBT, I think I confused you with someone else who was sheeping.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Also, BBT, I think I confused you with someone else who was sheeping.

That would make more sense

Who did you confuse me with?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Also, what effect does that have on your read of me?

[Boonskiies]

I find it highly unlikely that the four of us on the Drake wagon (if he flips scum, which he probably will) would be on this wagon as scum. It doesn't make sense for any of us to hard bus

two

scum partners in the first 2 days of the game. Those lynches could easily be avoided bar the bussing.


@BBT - I'm inclined to feel the same way as in your 1188.

[Xiao Long]

Not sure, probably Boonskies or something.
As far as my read? Eh, still scummy since that wasn't the biggest thing, but slightly less scummy than before.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You noticed it enough to accuse me of doing it.

I find it somewhat scummy that you can't place this accusation onto the correct person.

[Xiao Long]

I find it highly unlikely that the four of us on the Drake wagon (if he flips scum, which he probably will) would be on this wagon as scum. It doesn't make sense for any of us to hard bus

two

scum partners in the first 2 days of the game. Those lynches could easily be avoided bar the bussing.


@BBT - I'm inclined to feel the same way as in your 1188.

Why not? I think most people agreed Thor was scum, so I wouldn't be surprised if there were more than one scum on that wagon. And Drake is a pretty popular candidate for D2. However, D2 it seems like all of us are being pussies when it comes to actually lynching someone. Drake, Konowa and you have all had big wagons on you and no one's been lynched. I guess Drake has come the closest since Zeb declared intent? Scum could easily have been on any of those wagons. I could be WIFOMing since I'm not comfortable accepting all four people on that wagon as town at this time.

[Xiao Long]

You noticed it enough to accuse me of doing it.

I find it somewhat scummy that you can't place this accusation onto the correct person.

My biggest thing on you has always been your misrepping. If you'll notice 1123 had no quotes in it as I was just reciting from memory.
Why is it scummy that I can't place the accusation on the correct person? Surely I could if I were to go back and reread, but I can't be arsed to do that since I don't think it really matters who I confused you with. Me confusing you with someone else for sheeping does not erase your misrepping or your weird vote swaps and argument with Varsoon that caused me to vote you the first time, does it?

[Boonskiies]

Xiao, thoughts on Varsoon?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

But it does look like you were fabricating a read on me. Therefore, I would like to know who the accusation was actually aimed at.

Where have I misrepped?

I don't know why your vote swaps is a plural as well. I think I only changed my vote onto Varsoon and that seems to be the stem of your problem.