Mini 1708: Mafia Café [Game Over!]

[Metal Sonic]

Assuming she's scum, of course

[Titus]

I spent the day sorting another game and didn't get to this. My apologies!

I mean I'm convinced town has won, Ari. You're not scum, Metal's not scum, and Fitz... Eh? If we lynch Titus today and she's somehow not scum I'll put my thinking cap on but for right now I'm cool with just letting Titus/Sonic have sex in the corner until we kill Titus out of annoyance.

^^Ewww

@Titus,
Is the "Ewww" at the prospect of you and Sonic in the corner or the fact that Johnny is waiting to do anything until tomorrow (should today not and the game)?

It's eww at the prospect that he's saying "I'm scum" with no thinking because it's easy to do with no actual thought or reasons why I'm scum. That's my issue.

Sonic's still full of shit though but Johnny leaves nagging doubts.

[Metal Sonic]

oh i thought you were "Ewww"ing at the corner thing

[Metal Sonic]

its metaphorical, you know

[JohnnyFarrar]

VOTE: Titus

Let's win this thing

[Aristophanes]

I just reread and ISO'd and I cannot believe Metal is scum. If so, GG man! Titus, on the other hand, has been scummy at many various points in the game.

I think we just won this, guys!

VOTE: Titus

[Titus]

Enjoy the loss town. Y'all just been sleeping scum.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Are you saying we're all scum sleeper cells? Do you know our triggers?

[havingfitz]

Fitz, Any thoughts on Metal v Titus?

#4 - The 4 players most locked in as town IMO are me for role PM and my Davsto and FSS pushes, Aristophanes for RC & for slot's Davsto and FSS pushes, Dierfire for slot's Davsto and FSS pushes, and Metal for slot's Davsto and FSS pushes. Yes I've heard of the concept of bussing, but I am not going to be voting anyone who has voted 2 scum.
#5 - As long as these three: ASP, Titus, Johnny are the three to go; as necessary, I'm not too concerned with what order they fall in....though I prefer this one -> ASP, Titus, Johnny.  Yes I've heard of the concept of bussing, but I am not going to be voting anyone who has voted 2 scum.    #5 - As long as these three: ASP, Titus, Johnny are the three to go; as necessary, I'm not too concerned with what order they fall in....though I prefer this one ->  ASP, Titus, Johnny.

[JohnnyFarrar]

I've sent smoke signals to that cave the mod currently lives in without internet indicating that hammer has happened, hopefully flip will happen soon.

If a tomorrow happens we're probably fucked, but I'll ask people not to immediately vote in case that wasn't blindingly obvious.

[Cheetory6]

VC5.02

JohnnyFarrar

[1] - havingfitz

Metal Sonic

[1] - Titus

Titus

[3] - Metal Sonic, JohnnyFarrar, Aristophanes

Sorry for delayed hammer, flip coming in nowtimes.

[Cheetory6]

Titus has been lynched
She was

Spoiler:

a 1-Shot Town Gunsmith

Woops. Looks like you spilled your coffee everywhere.
Clumsy clumsy you.
Will bring you another coffee as a courtesy, but if you do it again we're charging you out the wazoo you cheapskate.
Night Five has begun and will end in (expired on 2015-10-10 22:00:00).

[Cheetory6]

Metal Sonic has been killed.
He was

Spoiler:

a Town Even-Night Cop

Alright.
I don't mean to rush you, but we're closing up shop soon. It's getting pretty late.
Here's your last order.
Drink it and get out of here so I can go home. q.q

VC6.00

Not Voting

[3] - Aristophanes, havingfitz, JohnnyFarrar

Day Six has begun and will end on (expired on 2015-10-24 10:00:00)
With 3 alive it takes 2 to lynch.

[havingfitz]

v/la till tuesday

[Metal Sonic]

[JohnnyFarrar]

Hey I get to read a Sonic ISO now. No voting pls.

[Aristophanes]

Hey I get to read a Sonic ISO now. No voting pls.

Ditto.

We have plenty of time to sort this. No need to vote just yet.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Phone posting ow

So looks like he got a guilty on Stool night two what with the immediate vote on him and the 100% sure comment a bit after.

For night four he comes back with confusion. Either he was blocked or got a wrong read our something idk. He voted me after but then quickly unvoted in a definitely not '100% sure' fashion. Unfortunately this seems to mean he didn't have a definitive result for night 4.

[Aristophanes]

Yeah, I was trying to sort what might have happened night 4 and am at a loss.
I wish he were here to ask. If he had made it clearer yesterday we could have a conftown today which would make things so much simpler.

I'm going to update his VCA colouring and see if we can derive anything from it.
Isos to follow soon after.

[Aristophanes]

Updated VCA

Spoiler: Source Votecounts (minor fix)

VC1.01

Jake From State Farm

[1] -

Davsto

Davsto

[1] -

Direfire

JohnnyFarrar

[1] -

monkey saint

monkey saint

[1] -

Metal Sonic

Aristophanes

[1] -

free stool sample

free stool sample

[1] -

A simple plan

A simple plan

[4] - Havingfitz,

Lynx the antithesis

, JohnnyFarrar,

chaosomega

Not Voting

[3] -

Jake From State Farm

, Aristophanes,

Titus

[]

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Day One will end on (expired on 2015-08-30 19:00:00)

[]

VC1.02

Davsto

[3] -

Dierfire

,

free stool sample

,

Jake From State Farm

monkey saint

[1] - Aristophanes

A simple plan

[5] - Havingfitz,

Lynx the antithesis

, JohnnyFarrar,

chaosomega

,

Davsto

Lynx the antithesis

[1] -

monkey saint

Not Voting

[3] -

A simple plan

,

Metal Sonic

,

Titus

[]

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Day One will end on (expired on 2015-08-30 19:00:00)

[]

@Mod could you by any chance change the colour of that font? It's barely visible when using the dark forum theme.

[]Trueee. Updating OP. New mod colour is #804000. Sorry for lack of mod presence, been having a "time" this week.[]

VC1.03

Davsto

[3] -

Dierfire

,

free stool sample

,

Jake From State Farm

monkey saint

[1] - Aristophanes

A simple plan

[4] - Havingfitz,

chaosomega

,

Davsto

, JohnnyFarrar

Lynx the antithesis

[1] -

monkey saint

Not Voting

[4] -

A simple plan

,

Metal Sonic

,

Lynx the antithesis

,

Titus

[]

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Day One will end on (expired on 2015-08-30 19:00:00)

[]

VC1.04

Davsto

[4] -

Dierfire

,

free stool sample

,

Jake From State Farm

, Aristophanes

A simple plan

[3] - Havingfitz,

chaosomega

, JohnnyFarrar

Lynx the antithesis

[1] -

monkey saint

Aristophanes

[1] -

Davsto

Not Voting

[4] -

A simple plan

,

Metal Sonic

,

Lynx the antithesis

,

Titus

[]

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Day One will end on (expired on 2015-08-30 19:00:00)

[]

@mod also do you know how long Emc will be VLA?

[]

August 21.

[]

@mod AM I DEAD?

[]

Don't think so.

[]

VC1.05

Davsto

[5] -

Dierfire

, Aristophanes,

chaosomega

,

Metal Sonic

,

Lynx the antithesis

A simple plan

[2] - Havingfitz, JohnnyFarrar

Lynx the antithesis

[2] -

free stool sample

,

monkey saint

Aristophanes

[1] -

Davsto

Not Voting

[4] -

A simple plan

,

Jake From State Farm

,

Titus

[]

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Day One will end on (expired on 2015-08-30 19:00:00)

[]

[]Please put votes on a separate line! If it's in the middle of a block of text it makes it much more likely that I might miss it.[]

VC1.06

Davsto

[4] - Aristophanes,

chaosomega

,

Metal Sonic

,

Lynx the antithesis

A simple plan

[1] - Havingfitz

Lynx the antithesis

[4] -

free stool sample

,

monkey saint

, JohnnyFarrar,

Davsto

Not Voting

[4] -

A simple plan

,

Jake From State Farm

,

Dierfire

Titus

[]

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Day One will end on (expired on 2015-08-30 19:00:00)

[]

VC1.07

Davsto

[5] - Aristophanes,

chaosomega

,

Metal Sonic

,

Lynx the antithesis

,

Dierfire

Lynx the antithesis

[4] -

free stool sample

,

monkey saint

, JohnnyFarrar,

Davsto

Not Voting

[4] -

A simple plan

, havingfitz,

Jake From State Farm

,

Titus

[]

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Day One will end on (expired on 2015-08-30 19:00:00)

[]

VC1.08

Davsto

[6] - Aristophanes,

chaosomega

,

Metal Sonic

,

Lynx the antithesis

,

Dierfire

, havingfitz

Lynx the antithesis

[3] -

free stool sample

, JohnnyFarrar,

Davsto

havingfitz

[1] -

Jake From State Farm

Dierfire

[1] -

monkey saint

Not Voting

[2] -

A simple plan

,

Titus

[]

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Day One will end on (expired on 2015-08-30 19:00:00)

[]

VC1.09

Davsto

[6] - Aristophanes,

chaosomega

,

Metal Sonic

,

Lynx the antithesis

,

Dierfire

, havingfitz

Lynx the antithesis

[3] -

free stool sample

, JohnnyFarrar,

Davsto

havingfitz

[1] -

Jake From State Farm

Dierfire

[1] -

monkey saint

Not Voting

[2] -

A simple plan

,

Titus

[]

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Day One will end on (expired on 2015-08-30 19:00:00)

[]

VC1.10

Davsto

[7] - Aristophanes,

chaosomega

,

Metal Sonic

,

Lynx the antithesis

,

Dierfire

, havingfitz,

free stool sample

Lynx the antithesis

[2] - JohnnyFarrar,

Davsto

havingfitz

[1] -

Jake From State Farm

Dierfire

[1] -

monkey saint

Not Voting

[2] -

A simple plan

,

Titus

[]

Hammer has been reached on

Davsto

.
Flip coming shortly.

[]

VC2.01

free stool sample

[4] -

chaosomega

, havingfitz,

Dierfire

, JohnnyFarrar

Aristophanes

[1] -

monkey saint

havingfitz

[2] -

free stool sample

,

Metal Sonic

Titus

[1] - Aristophanes

Not Voting

[3] -

A simple plan

,

Lynx the antithesis

,

Titus

[]

Day Two has begun and will end on (expired on 2015-09-13 13:00:00)
With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

[]

[]

Dierfire

has been prodded.[]

VC2.02

free stool sample

[5] -

chaosomega

, havingfitz,

Dierfire

, JohnnyFarrar, Aristophanes

Aristophanes

[2] -

monkey saint

,

Titus

havingfitz

[1] -

Metal Sonic

Dierfire

[1] -

free stool sample

Not Voting

[2] -

A simple plan

,

Lynx the antithesis

[]

Day Two has begun and will end on (expired on 2015-09-13 13:00:00)
With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

[]

VC2.03

free stool sample

[3] -

chaosomega

, havingfitz,

Dierfire

Aristophanes

[1] -

Titus

Dierfire

[2] -

free stool sample

,

monkey saint

Titus

[2] -

Metal Sonic

, Aristophanes

havingfitz

[1] -

A simple plan

monkey saint

[1] -

Lynx the antithesis

Not Voting

[1] - JohnnyFarrar

[]

Day Two has begun and will end on (expired on 2015-09-13 13:00:00)
With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

[]

VC2.04

free stool sample

[3] -

chaosomega

,

Dierfire

, havingfitz

Aristophanes

[1] -

Titus

Titus

[2] - Aristophanes, JohnnyFarrar

havingfitz

[4] -

A simple plan

,

monkey saint

,

Metal Sonic

,

free stool sample

monkey saint

[1] -

Lynx the antithesis

[]

Day Two has begun and will end on (expired on 2015-09-13 13:00:00)
With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

[]

[]Aristophanes replaces in for Aristophanes thank you muchly Aristophanes for being a nifty human person and stuff![]

VC2.05

free stool sample

[1] -

Dierfire

Aristophanes

[1] -

monkey saint

Titus

[4] - Aristophanes,

chaosomega

,

free stool sample

, JohnnyFarrar

havingfitz

[1] -

Metal Sonic

monkey saint

[3] -

A simple plan

,

Lynx the antithesis

, havingfitz

No Vote

[1] -

Titus

[]

Day Two has begun and will end on (expired on 2015-09-13 13:00:00)
With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

[]

VC2.06

free stool sample

[2] -

Dierfire

, Aristophanes

Aristophanes

[1] -

monkey saint

Titus

[2] -

chaosomega

,

free stool sample

monkey saint

[5] -

A simple plan

,

Lynx the antithesis

, havingfitz,

Metal Sonic

, JohnnyFarrar

chaosomega

[1] -

Titus

[]

Day Two has begun and will end on (expired on 2015-09-15 13:00:00)
With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

[]

VC2.07

free stool sample

[2] -

Dierfire

, Aristophanes

Titus

[2] -

chaosomega

,

monkey saint

monkey saint

[6] -

A simple plan

,

Lynx the antithesis

, havingfitz,

Metal Sonic

, JohnnyFarrar,

free stool sample

chaosomega

[1] -

Titus

[]

Hammer has been reached on

monkey saint

.
Flip coming shortly.

[]

VC3.01

free stool sample

[5] -

Metal Sonic

, Aristophanes, havingfitz,

Titus

,

Lynx the antithesis

havingfitz

[1] -

free stool sample

Metal Sonic

[1] -

Dierfire

Not Voting

[2] -

A simple plan

, JohnnyFarrar

[]

Flip coming soon!

[]

VC4.01

A simple plan

[2] -

Metal Sonic

, havingfitz

Dierfire

[3] - Aristophanes,

Titus

, JohnnyFarrar

Not Voting

[2] -

A simple plan

,

Dierfire

[]With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.
Day four will end in (expired on 2015-10-06 23:00:00)[]

VC4.02

A simple plan

[4] -

Metal Sonic

, havingfitz,

Dierfire

, JohnnyFarrar

Dierfire

[2] - Aristophanes,

Titus

Titus

[1] -

A simple plan

[]Hammer has been reached. Flip coming shortly![]

Sorry everyone. As Johnny mentioned, been without internet last two days.
q.q

VC5.01

JohnnyFarrar

[1] - havingfitz

Metal Sonic

[1] -

Titus

Titus

[1] -

Metal Sonic

Not Voting

[2] - Aristophanes, JohnnyFarrar

Day Five has begun and will end on (expired on 2015-10-13 10:00:00)
With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch.
Softprodding peoples who're coming off VLA.

VC5.02

JohnnyFarrar

[1] - havingfitz

Metal Sonic

[1] -

Titus

Titus

[3] -

Metal Sonic

, JohnnyFarrar, Aristophanes

Sorry for delayed hammer, flip coming in nowtimes.

[Aristophanes]

Thanksgiving dinner tonight, so I may not be on until late today/tomorrow.

[JohnnyFarrar]

I'll just talk to myself then.

Day one Ari looks better than Fitz. Bells' early strong vote rocked it and Fitz looks late by comparison

[JohnnyFarrar]

Day 2 Ari was in catch-up mode, voting Stool as a placeholder but ready to hammer Monkey.

Fitz should look better, but looking at his ISO he completely checked out halfway through the day and voted Monkey for next to no reason.

Again Ari looks better.

[havingfitz]

I looked over the votes throughout the game one more time and do not see me swaying from earlier suspicions (POE or otherwise) towards Johnny.  He has not been on a single scum lynch.  The Radient/Aristo has been on both (as have I).

D1 Johnny stayed away from leading lynch contender Davsto and his last vote on D1 was on The_Jester (joined shortly thereafter by scumDavsto) which got both the Davsto and Jester wagons to L-3.  Luckily the scumDavsto wagon prevailed.

D2 Johnny stayed away from the jester wagon for some reason and instead joined the already in progress scumfreestool wagon.  Yay bussing!  Once scumfreestool got to L-1 the first person post-FSSfakeclaim to get off the wagon was Johnny....never to return.  Then Johnny proceeded to waver between Titus and Monkey the remainder of the day.  Monkey mislynch wagon prevailed.  d'oh.  Bonus points for Radient/Aristo not being on that.

D3 we finally got rid of scumstool, Radient/Aristo and I leading the charge, Johnny nowhere to be found.

bang bang...2 mislynches.  That leaves remaining suspect Johnny around.

No way I am voting the Radient/Aristo slot.  So no need to delay the inevitable.

VOTE: JohnnyFarrar

If Radient/Aristo is scum...#$%^&!!! and very well played.  Congrats on a well deserved win.
Ergo if Johnny is town....play better next time.

[Aristophanes]

I did my Isos last night but I didn't get a chance to post them between festivities, so here's the summation of my thoughts.

In the VCA, Johnny is only on one scum wagon ever, and that was FSS in D2.
He was only on it for a short time and unvoted when he claimed, which is pretty legit, but them he pursued whatever looked like the next easiest wagon, Titus.
In D1 he was on every counterwagon to Davs at any time it looked like it might gain enough steam.
In D3 he "wasn't feeling an FSS wagon" and tried to deflect it onto Titus again.

His votes have been overly opportunistic in timing and he hasn't put in much effort at all since the rest of his team was lynched. He just took his almost universal townread and slinked into the shadows.
When called out for this by Fitz, rather than defend himself, he took it to a personal level to discredit Fitz.

His hammer on ASP called back to a D1 read, almost as if to say "come on guys, I've had this read all game" as a defense when ASP flipped town.

D5 in the TvT between Titus and Sonic he sidelined so hard it's actually ridiculous. He just sat back and watched, barely even mentioning anything game related, as if not wanting to interfere in it.

I see zero town motivation to any of this. This here is our scum.


If we look at Fitz in the VCA, he was late on Davsto and early on FSS, which is possible scum bussing. He does, however, push for FSS' lynch far harder than I would expect any teammate to do. I mean, if you're pushing hard enough to make people think you have a guilty on scum, that's a fucking hard push! Scum tend not to bus like that. They'd rather let someone else start the wagon super hard and sheep early on, but with individual confidence. Which was admittedly what he did on D3, but that didn't feel like a bus to me.

In days 4 & 5 he was far more of a presence than Johnny was, not just waiting for a wagon to hammer, but making his own stance and sticking to it. He gets huge points for being on Johnny despite the Metal/Titus argument. I wish he'd been there and pushing it a little more, as he did seem to use it to avoid the main conversation, but that's about all I've got against him.

Johnny has to be the final scum. If not, You've duped me again Fitz.
I swore I wouldn't let a repeat of A Game of Pokes happen. If you've done it again, then I really have to get better at sorting you!

VOTE: JohnnyFarrar