Mini 1697 - a Re-balanced Game of Mafia - GAME OVER

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1200 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2015 3:52 am

I reread, found his analysis very natural and townie, forgot about it, reread the same posts and thought there was no way he'd end up doing that as town, then found out that it made sense again and he was town.

Thesp · Post Post #1201 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2015 3:54 am

My desire to get engaged in this game has been exceeded by my time for it lately.

That said, I don't think pistachi0n is scum, and I have a hard time believing that all of (me, Persivul, davesaz, All Alone) are town, and we were

all four

leading wagons yesterday, and it bugs the crap out of me to see the davesaz wagon just disappear like it did today.

And goodness, we need a replacement for TheDominator37.

davesaz · Post Post #1202 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:39 am

Has it really been almost a week since the last official vote count?

pistachi0n · Post Post #1203 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2015 12:38 pm

In post 1199, All Alone wrote:
In post 1146, pistachi0n wrote:As for my voting patterns, I've been trying to get a better intuition about this game and be more solid in my reads. I think I played very poorly in my newbie game when I changed my vote 7 times on day 1 and I wouldn't like to repeat that.

You didn't cast a nonrandom vote until page 14, how is that "more solid" in your reads?

I wanted to wait until I was sure about someone before I placed a vote. I was obviously wrong in my assessment of Eventi.

Ankamius · Post Post #1204 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:14 am

prodge

Thesp · Post Post #1205 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:03 am

In post 1202, davesaz wrote:Has it really been almost a week since the last official vote count?

Yup.

Netherspite · Post Post #1206 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:41 am

I think we should start consolidating for the lynch because half of the day is gone and the activity is very low.
Those who townread

Ankamius

, can you re-iterate reasons why you do so?

pistachi0n · Post Post #1207 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:11 am

I'm not really townreading Ank right now, it's just that there are others I think are scummier. But sure, why not.

VOTE: Ankamius

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1208 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:16 am

This is good. We need all the Ank votes we can get.

pistachi0n · Post Post #1209 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:08 am

(Despite my vote, I don't agree with Alchemist's reasoning in particular for voting Ank.)

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1210 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:14 pm

I'm not voting Ank.

I suggest others also refrain.

Ankamius · Post Post #1211 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2015 2:26 pm

pistachi0n what the fuck was that posturing?

Netherspite · Post Post #1212 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:05 pm

In post 1210, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'm not voting Ank.

I suggest others also refrain.

Scumbuddy or misguided town? Hmm...

BBmolla · Post Post #1213 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:23 pm

Howdy doody guys.

So it kind of looks like ActionDan sort of site flaked?

I'm the backup mod for this game, going to talk to listmod about taking over k?

BBmolla · Post Post #1214 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:32 pm

"Official" Vote Count

Ankamius

(3): Alchemist21, Netherspite, pistachi0n

Alchemist21

(2): TheDominator37, Ankamius

pistachi0n

(2): All Alone, RadiantCowbells

davesaz

(1): Thesp

Not Voting

(2): davesaz

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-08-27 14:20:00)

Lemme know if you see errors. Once I get the okay I'll find a Dom replacement.

BBmolla · Post Post #1215 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:08 pm

Can you guys PM me your roles please, I don't have them <_<

I'm aware Dom won't be able to send me his but I think I can figure his out by process of elimination.

Edit: And for the love of god don't lie.

Thesp · Post Post #1216 (ISO) » Fri Aug 21, 2015 4:03 am

In post 1206, Netherspite wrote:I think we should start consolidating for the lynch because half of the day is gone and the activity is very low.
Those who townread
Ankamius
, can you re-iterate reasons why you do so?

I strongly agree with this, and...

In post 1207, pistachi0n wrote:I'm not really townreading Ank right now, it's just that there are others I think are scummier. But sure, why not.

VOTE: Ankamius

...this is where I'm at as well (along with disagreeing with Alchemist21's reasoning, as I'm not writing off Netherspite as town). I just went back and re-read Ankamius's posts, and while I can get some of the feel for why some might want to lynch him, he's just not that high up there for me. I really like his analysis in #1169, moreso than Alchemist21's analysis in #1115, which is useful and feels townish as well.

And I'm

still

weirded out by the disappearance of the davesaz wagon, when a significant number of people stated on D2 that they wanted to lynch him, and we open the day looking to lynch him, then the wagon simply vanishes for reasons I don't really fathom. I'm not feeling pistachi0n for scum (and I'm really uncomfortable following All Alone there). So if I'm forced to move to one of (Ankamius, Alchemist21, pistachi0n), it will be Alchemist21 (which follows up on some latent suspicions from earlier in the game, but is still probably my third or fourth preferred lynchee at best). Also, I find this:

In post 1212, Netherspite wrote:
In post 1210, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'm not voting Ank.

I suggest others also refrain.

Scumbuddy or misguided town? Hmm...

...unnerving.

I'm happy we have a new mod, I'm willing to switch to Alchemist21 if I have to (but would prefer not to), and will remain a voice crying in the wilderness about All Alone and davesaz until needed.

Netherspite · Post Post #1217 (ISO) » Fri Aug 21, 2015 4:30 am

In post 1216, Thesp wrote:I really like his analysis in #1169, moreso than Alchemist21's analysis in #1115, which is useful and feels townish as well.

Ankamius

's analysis contains contradictions to itself which does not help the analysis to be convincing.
I don't see why you like it.
Mind elaborating?

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1218 (ISO) » Fri Aug 21, 2015 4:31 am

I will be on L/A this weekend.

There's wifi where I'll be, but it's pretty shitty and unreliable so I don't know if I'll even be able to access the site.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1219 (ISO) » Fri Aug 21, 2015 4:34 am

In post 1215, BBmolla wrote:
Can you guys PM me your roles please, I don't have them <_<

I'm aware Dom won't be able to send me his but I think I can figure his out by process of elimination.

Edit: And for the love of god don't lie.

Also, you might still be able to get this from Dom. He's only game banned, and I think he's still posting a bit in discussion threads, so you could PM him and see if he's still got the role PM.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1220 (ISO) » Fri Aug 21, 2015 4:36 am

@Thesp, doesn't it give you some pause that Ank thinks Nether is scum regardless of my flip, yet he's voting me over him?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1221 (ISO) » Fri Aug 21, 2015 4:39 am

Ank, would you vote Nether if that's the case?

He's my #1 lynch today.

Thesp, why not nether?

Ankamius · Post Post #1222 (ISO) » Fri Aug 21, 2015 5:18 am

Alchemist: I'm voting you because the game will be blown wide open with your lynch and it will be nearly impossible for your partners to talk their way out of being lynched in succession.

I don't trust the amount of wiggle room you'd have with a Netherspite lynch, despite how blindingly obvious he is. A scumflip on you is all we need to secure his downfall.

Ankamius · Post Post #1223 (ISO) » Fri Aug 21, 2015 5:19 am

If Alchemist -> Netherspite -> Pistachi0n lynches don't end the game, I'll be shocked.

Thesp · Post Post #1224 (ISO) » Fri Aug 21, 2015 5:36 am

In post 1217, Netherspite wrote:
Ankamius
's analysis contains contradictions to itself which does not help the analysis to be convincing.

Where? (Forgive me if you've already stated this somewhere more explicitly and I've overlooked it.)

In post 1220, Alchemist21 wrote:@Thesp, doesn't it give you some pause that Ank thinks Nether is scum regardless of my flip, yet he's voting me over him?

I didn't notice at first, thanks for calling it to my attention. Hmm. (Yes, it does give me pause. I don't know how much.)

In post 1221, RadiantCowbells wrote:He's my #1 lynch today.

Thesp, why not nether?

I'm pondering this. Also, how did Netherspite move up above pistachi0n for you?

Looking at it more, I could imagine an Ankamius/Netherspite/davesaz thing. Except #1121 from Netherspite looks out of place unless it's a conscious decision to bus (which is safer now without the cop, but still an odd timing to it).

I'm also strongly wishing RadiantCowbells hadn't been so obnoxiously obvious about Duppin being the cop.

Eh, I'm feeling pretty lost, actually. Well, I feel like I need to spend another hour teasing things out, and I really need to get back to work, and we really need a scum flip (especially today). That said, after I had just typed up everything preceding, Ankamius's #1222 doesn't sit well with me. At all.

I could switch to either Ankamius or Netherspite, though I think I'm more interested in an Ankamius flip. pistachi0n is not a consideration for me today at this point.