Mini 1413 - The Mind Reader Mafia - Game Over

[qwints]

i had them as scumbros despite hard bussing
then one is town and the picture is clear

Yay confirmation bias!

[Nachomamma8]

the false dilemma was too good to stop lynching you now
we can't let scum's efforts go to waste

[Lastsurvivor]

In all seriousness, we need to be lynching between City Electric, Last Survivor and Junpei. City Electric's failure to have a vote down during what I now know to be a town-town deadline wagon contest makes me

Theory: You didn't want to address my question about your UN vote, so you changed your vote.

I'm still convinced that at least one scum didn't bus. The game flow strongly suggests they didn't have time to do so.

I don't get your thought process on this. Do scum take longer to perform actions?? Why does a quick wagon somehow prevent scum from bussing?

To be frank, since your predecessor was on the guille wagon, this is an excellent theory for you to put forward as scum to draw attention away from yourself.

QUESTION, you said at least one off guille wagon. So who is the one scum on the guille wagon?

[Nachomamma8]

tell me nacho, besides qwints, who do you suspect most?
looking through your ISO briefly shows me you had him and AP as scumbros

>> le AP flips town

...and you're still on a rampage against qwints?

what's the 2+2 here

WAIT ACTUALLY DON'T VOTE QWINTS
I DON'T KNOW WHO HIS BUDDY IS YET

[penguin_alien]

UberNinja, save brain power and read early game knowing that the whole confirmation thing was due to the mod sending my PM to the wrong username.

[Nachomamma8]

UberNinja, save brain power and read early game knowing that the whole confirmation thing was due to the mod sending my PM to the wrong username.

think bigger
tell him to save brainpower and just hammer when i tell him to

[UberNinja]

the false dilemma was too good to stop lynching you now
we can't let scum's efforts go to waste

okay nacho is town -- no way scum says this

anything else i need to know for my re-read?

[Nachomamma8]

just hurry the fuck up

[UberNinja]

it's fucking 50 pages

i will probably just re-read as necessary instead of doing one huge long one that shits up the thread

[Loranthaceae]

the false dilemma was too good to stop lynching you now
we can't let scum's efforts go to waste

okay nacho is town -- no way scum says this

anything else i need to know for my re-read?

This sounds to me like Nacho is going to die tonight.

[Malakittens]

I been thinking more about the GreyICE slot being scum or at least some of that wagon that was on me last day before it disappeared being scum. (Not everyone is going to agree with my thinking, but this it)

Now scum can essentially have two chances at night to find the mind reader due to their actions. They can investigate, but also kill. They wouldn't spend the kill on someone they already investigated so they would likely push for that lynch the following day.

Then again they could totally try to use to their advance the day Lynch in their favor. They could push someone's lynch in hope they would get them to claim.

As for the Jal kill. I'm not really sure but I'm looking at Qwintz as scum. Qwints scum recently game he was really lurky and only posted to the minimum or when he was kinda called out. Though since I haven't played with a town-Qwints ... I'm not really sure if he lurks in that ascept.

I'm also not saying I was targeted by a scum action, but it's possible. >.>

[Malakittens]

Also, Lora, what was your reasoning to vote me last Day? It didn't make any sense to me and I'm trying to figure if you wanted to stay off the AP wagon since you kept hopping between wagons during Day2.

[penguin_alien]

Loranthaceae's play last day phase hurt my town read on him. If qwints is scum, that means Mehdi2277 took pains to get me off my Loranthaceae vote and onto the guille2015 wagon. Which doesn't make sense unless Loranthaceae was more valuable to him than guille2015. And then Loranthaceae quick-hammered. Which doesn't add up well to me. Then Loranthaceae's 'attempt' to jump back on the AngryPidgeon wagon after the hammer had been placed: intentionally erratic, maybe? Blending in without leaving his name behind on the vote count?

I know a couple people have called Loranthaceae as obvtown as of day two, but I'm not seeing it so much. Not ready to call him scum, but he's not a straight-up town read right now.

[Loranthaceae]

@Mala

Man, Lor is acting the same way he acted in Om's game. (you know Jal - the one where you were totes scum)

I'm around - not that I'll be of any help.

Taking the timing into consideration I didn't see a town motivation to you confirming my town meta. I was far from being a lynch target and focus needed to go elsewhere so that post seemed off to me.


@penguin

That being said, Malakittens is correct that CityElectric hasn't been particularly pro-town in her postings, plus #526 is daring us to lynch her. Which is scummy as all get-out. I'm willing to see what CityElectric comes up with under increased pressure, so VOTE: CityElectric

Why is that particular post of CEs scummy?

[Malakittens]

You were acting like an idiot and being unhelpful and utterly annoying right before the deadline. I was letting others just because you are acting like this doesn't mean you are scum. That's hilarious that you voted me because of that. Jal said a similar thing too, but you didn't jump on her - just me.

[UberNinja]

I have no more energy for epic full-thread readthroughs at this point so I'm just gonna vote who I suspect most:

Vote: Penguin_alien

Lorax seems a little like the "obvious easy mislynch" category.

Qwints, I really don't have much of an opinion on at this point. His stuff "SEEMS" scummy but is there actually a scum thought process behind it?

[UberNinja]

Look at that proper capitalization and punctuation. Look at that shit.

If I post without, somebody please slap me on the wrist.

[Loranthaceae]

I doubt you really believed that someone would vote for me regardless of how I was acting. I didn't need your meta defense so your input was only seemingly having any use, in reality it was irrelevant at the time. Jal talked about me having a history of claiming VT regardless of alignment regardless of whether I'm a PR or not at a stage in the game where we where gathering useful info. Minutes before a lynch is not the time to talk about my meta, and it was bad or scummy.

Unlike you I was available for discussion about the primary lynch candidates (which made me far more useful than you btw).. when it didn't come I acted a fool to compensate and have fun. People picking on that is lame and boring. Penguin is boring.

[Loranthaceae]

@Uber what's your opinion on Mala?

[qwints]

Day 1:

Okay, here's where the guille wagon starts:

vote: guille

We're gonna call that an incentive to be less fucking awful

Here's the hammer:

Ah whatever.

VOTE: guille

Here's the flip

Vote Count:

7 to lynch

guille2015

: 7 (GreyICE,

T-Bone,

mastin2, Mehdi2277, Malakittens, penguin_alien, Loranthaceae)
Loranthaceae: 3 (

guille2015

, CityElectric,

Adam-12

)
Malakittens: 1 (

Jal

)
Adam-12: 1 (Lastsurvivor)

Not Voting: 1 (Junpei)

guille2015 has been lynched!

guille2015 -

Mafia Test Subject

- Lynched Day One

That's about 55 hours and 80 posts from first vote to hammer. Moreover, the lynch is much closer to a anti-town lynch than a scummy lynch - there's plenty of excuses to stay off the wagon. If there's scum on the wagon, it's likely to be Loranthacae (initial defense followed by hammering looks like a half-hearted bus).

City electric's only comment on guile during this action is:

awful meaning?

Less lurky, more content?

Last Survivor doesn't comment on it at all.

Guille doesn't really address either player.

Day 2

Mastin moves from Last Survivor to my slot after mala, LS and CE are the first few suspects, and we end up deciding between me and AP. City Electric basically sits this out after the pressure's off her whereas Last Survivor is consistently taking positions.

Scummy people: CE, Lorenthacase.

Town people: Mastin, penguin_alien

[penguin_alien]

@penguin

That being said, Malakittens is correct that CityElectric hasn't been particularly pro-town in her postings, plus #526 is daring us to lynch her. Which is scummy as all get-out. I'm willing to see what CityElectric comes up with under increased pressure, so VOTE: CityElectric

Why is that particular post of CEs scummy?

I'd answer this, except a) I don't see why it's grabbed your attention all this time later such that you have a driving need to know, and b) heaven forbid I bore you further.

I have no more energy for epic full-thread readthroughs at this point so I'm just gonna vote who I suspect most:

Vote: Penguin_alien

If you opt to flesh this out further, I'm all ears. Otherwise, keep up the excellent grammar work!

[Nachomamma8]

the false dilemma was too good to stop lynching you now
we can't let scum's efforts go to waste

okay nacho is town -- no way scum says this

anything else i need to know for my re-read?

This sounds to me like Nacho is going to die tonight.

probably, who fucking cares

[UberNinja]

Not much of an opinion on Mala yet.

This is interesting though, I was looking through Jal's votes, as she was the NK.

VOTE: AP

Qwints is next if AP is town.

Now, is the Jal kill a frame?
Or did Qwints just want to get rid of her, knowing AP would flip town?

Jal was probably a good kill either way for scum, amirite?

[Nachomamma8]

and fucking why is qwints still alive
jesus

[UberNinja]

Because we're not all as crazy for blood (yet?) as you are? lol