Alice in Wonderland - [Game Over!]

[Aronis]

DAMMIT. Ugh. I need to step away now. Aronis, carry me to bed pls.

Of course, I'll

try

not to drop you.

[Natirasha]

I mean I'm pretty sure one of me and Fridays dies tonight so I'm obviously opposed to NL.

[Katsuki]

I must say I have no issues with whoever reviewed this and that it's a very clever setup and one that has my 100% approval.

Clever, sure. I know I'm being hypocritical here, but I kinda hate gotchas-for-the-sake-of-gotchas in mafia. My main points so far are the (maybe insane cop)+(potential framer).

Like, I get if you want to make a game where the power roles are weak and useless, but I've talked to FakeGod about this in numerous games now, but his math-based balancing is kinda fucked because he fights human nature too much. I know I make imbalanced setups--I've acknowledged it before too--but I focus on the human element. Some things just end up making sense.

I'm not going anywhere with this.

Rabble rabble.

I'm thoroughly amused by the setup thus far and think it may have played out differently if we didn't lose the two alices so early. Skull misplayed by playing incredibly town as a beloved princess, and titus didn't get a chance to do anything.

Then the framer caused two mislynches and the Alice cop outted me forcing a rushed vig, that hit town. XD

Yeah we misplayed this insanely.

[Aronis]

Wait. Lylo tomorrow. We cant lynch me fuck,

VOTE: No Lynch.

Good. Good. Your journey towards the darkside is now complete.

[Aronis]

I mean I'm pretty sure one of me and Fridays dies tonight so I'm obviously opposed to NL.

Afraid of death, my dear? Or afraid of exposing your true identity? Trust is so hard to come by nowadays, isn't it?

[Salamence20]

Wait. Lylo tomorrow. We cant lynch me fuck,

VOTE: No Lynch.

Good. Good. Your journey towards the darkside is now complete.

Doesnt matter.

Konowa, Mala, and Rack will vote me and you will probably hammer regardless of alignment.

GG.

(Btw i think you are town, unless you are a day-cop)

[Aronis]

Wait. Lylo tomorrow. We cant lynch me fuck,

VOTE: No Lynch.

Good. Good. Your journey towards the darkside is now complete.

Doesnt matter.

Konowa, Mala, and Rack will vote me and you will probably hammer regardless of alignment.

GG.

(Btw i think you are town, unless you are a day-cop)

You did slice my head off after all.

[Natirasha]

I'm thoroughly amused by the setup thus far and think it may have played out differently if we didn't lose the two alices so early. Skull misplayed by playing incredibly town as a beloved princess, and titus didn't get a chance to do anything.

Then the framer caused two mislynches and the Alice cop outted me forcing a rushed vig, that hit town. XD

Yeah we misplayed this insanely.

Well, I think Beloved Princess is just an awful role in the first place. Just, this game has been a parade of useless roles. I mean, not going to lie, I legit think framer+insane cop is the most bastard thing ever seen on this site. And I'm the person who was a town-aligned moderator that could roleblock scum nightkills with impunity.

[Natirasha]

I just hate pretty much every role I've seen that isn't VT or Prof Fridays and I(the only real power roles in this game).

[Katsuki]

I'm thoroughly amused by the setup thus far and think it may have played out differently if we didn't lose the two alices so early. Skull misplayed by playing incredibly town as a beloved princess, and titus didn't get a chance to do anything.

Then the framer caused two mislynches and the Alice cop outted me forcing a rushed vig, that hit town. XD

Yeah we misplayed this insanely.

Well, I think Beloved Princess is just an awful role in the first place. Just, this game has been a parade of useless roles. I mean, not going to lie, I legit think framer+insane cop is the most bastard thing ever seen on this site. And I'm the person who was a town-aligned moderator that could roleblock scum nightkills with impunity.

I remember my first large game, I was a scum beloved princess who got crosskilled!

It's not bastard which is what I'm amused about re framercop.

[rack]

I do not like this setup. No, I do not.

SO DO YOU HAVE INCRIMINATING RESULTS ON RACK?

We have a VT result on rack, but FakeGod also said that goons flip as vts.

And there are no goons in this game.

But I have not

flipped.

I was

investigated.

I mean I'm pretty sure one of me and Fridays dies tonight so I'm obviously opposed to NL.

....I thought you just wanted this game to be OVER?

VOTE: Nati

[Konowa]

We are in a mislynch and lose situation, am I correct? Why are we not no lynching then?

[Konowa]

I really want to lynch rack though.

[Aronis]

We are in a mislynch and lose situation, am I correct? Why are we not no lynching then?

Because it's

mislynch

and lose.

[Konowa]

That's what I said?

[Salamence20]

Konowa we have a few choices:

1. Vote me and lose if mafia kill.
2. Vote Rack and hope hes not vt
3. Vote Aronis and hope an alice cop isnt a town role.
4. No lynch

[Prof Fridays]

I think Aronis misunderstood you. Yeah, I totally didn't think about the fact it's mylo.

UNVOTE:

Not gonna vote No Lynch as of yet; I'd rather stretch the Day out at least a little bit longer than a freaking Night phase. I want to hear some stuff from rack, Malakittens, and MattP yet. Personally, I only consider Nati conftown at this point. Still don't know what MattP, Malakittens and Konowa are.

Addendum:

Dayplay trumps nightplay and I didn't even manage to do my part of shooting scum.

Yeah. You literally didn't even let hiplop say anything before he died.

The alternative was to go to bed and get lynched because HERPDERP ALICE MUST BE SCUMZ

yeah no thx

You started going nuts immediately after Aronis outed you. I specifically said I was interested in lynching Aronis first to test his claim, and you proceeded to act crazy anyway. Like, if you had maintained a level head, it probably wouldn't have been a big deal.

[Aronis]

That's what I said?

Yes. So quit trying to lynch rack and do the sensible thing.

[Aronis]

Konowa we have a few choices:

1. Vote me and lose if mafia kill.
2. Vote Rack and hope hes not vt
3. Vote Aronis and hope an alice cop isnt a town role.
4. No lynch

Option 4 is always the best choice.

[Konowa]

Yes. So quit trying to lynch rack and do the sensible thing.

I'm not, but I really don't feel like arguing semantics with you.

SO DO YOU HAVE INCRIMINATING RESULTS ON RACK?

We have a VT result on rack, but FakeGod also said that goons flip as vts.

And there are no goons in this game.

This might just be paranoia because scumNati just pulled the wool over everyone's eyes in a recently completed game, but this really bugs me.

Not gonna vote No Lynch as of yet; I'd rather stretch the Day out at least a little bit longer than a freaking Night phase. I want to hear some stuff from rack, Malakittens, and MattP yet. Personally, I only consider Nati conftown at this point. Still don't know what MattP, Malakittens and Konowa are.

The construction of this sentence bothers me as well. Do you consider rack to be town? Where is Salamence in your reads? You don't want to hear from me, yet you don't know what I am?

[Prof Fridays]

SO DO YOU HAVE INCRIMINATING RESULTS ON RACK?

We have a VT result on rack, but FakeGod also said that goons flip as vts.

And there are no goons in this game.

This might just be paranoia because scumNati just pulled the wool over everyone's eyes in a recently completed game, but this really bugs me.

Yeah, what? How'd you (Nati) come to that conclusion? Also, rack flipped

Vanilla

, not

Vanilla Townie

, and FakeGod confirmed that both Vanilla Townies and Mafia Goons would flip

Vanilla

.

Not gonna vote No Lynch as of yet; I'd rather stretch the Day out at least a little bit longer than a freaking Night phase. I want to hear some stuff from rack, Malakittens, and MattP yet. Personally, I only consider Nati conftown at this point. Still don't know what MattP, Malakittens and Konowa are.

The construction of this sentence bothers me as well. Do you consider rack to be town? Where is Salamence in your reads? You don't want to hear from me, yet you don't know what I am?

It's not that I don't want to hear from you, Konowa, it's just I don't need to provoke you to say things. I consider rack to be lean-scum. I'm convinced that scum are largely Goons, given the anti-townness of Town's roles, so there wouldn't/shouldn't be a need for scum to intervene with their own PRs. Salamence is a toss-up for me. I think he fits as a scum role, and it seems like in Salamence's history, it wouldn't exactly be surprising for him to claim Town Queen of Hearts/Vanillizer. Would almost give scum some negative utility in the sense of letting Town screw with themselves would be better than Vanillizing their pseudo-PRs. It's set-up spec, so I'm not sure how much it's worth, but those are my thoughts.

[Natirasha]

Are we seriously playing the pedantry game with word choices?

But the 'there likely aren't any goons this game' this was a joke.

[Katsuki]

I really want to lynch rack though.

You should.

Rack and MattP.

[Malakittens]

I don't even.

Okay after work ill get to this

[Konowa]

I'm not one to argue semantics but I think the difference between "there are no goons in this game" and "there likely are not any goons in this game" is more than just semantics. Those are clearly two different statements.