Mini 2274: Terminator: Salvation Game Over!

[Vivax]

Spoiler: Fluff

Effort!Aisa was a no show, but don't worry, I've found a substitute. I'm really thankful to Apathy!Aisa for stepping in to take this at the last minute.

So anyway.

CSF flipping maf HIGHLY suggests that last scum outside of team 2, because... Bruh really, why mafia would put all teammates with self, it's critically dumb.
So let's give remainings of Team 2 conftown status and sheep them.

Thanks, now i can go gaming normal games.

You and Gamma conftown, so...

It's kinda you to decide.

Hmm... how does this make sense though? Why would you just sheep me and Gamma instead of trying to form your own reads?

Sorry RR! I'll do my best to avenge you.

I suppose could be Vivax.

Hey Math, what do you think of Andante/JohnnyFarrar?

Also I will be

LA from this Friday to Monday 6 pm BST

.

Townier than Vivax by a mile

I have RL today so this is going to have to do unless I get a chance over lunch until tomorrow.

VOTE: Vivax

What's towny about them? What's scummy about Vivax?

Looks like it might be necessary to undig that discussion with the two PTs and what it meant for who was on them again.
Fwiw I would agree that your posts look townie, but mostly my read is from mechanics. So that deffo looks lazy.

Don't feel bad for low efforting though. Game only becomes hard to me if MB doesn't flip red.

[Aisa]

I remember there was something I meant to bring up here but never did.
I previously brought this up in the PT, where everyone straight up ignored me (understandably). If I were more sensible I would probably have taken this as a sign to shut up and never bring this up again. Unfortunately for you all, I am not sensible and my heart will not let go of this, so... in a spoiler tag it goes:

Spoiler: ??

So! You've all been referring to the PT Gamma and I were in as "the past". Well no shit, that's where Pooky said we'd get sent, so imagine my confusion when I get access to this PT and it is called "the future" with basically no foreshadowing whatsoever.
But ejjinami also calls it "the future" in this post. I think that's what they meant at least.
95% this is just an odd coincidence, why would scum be more informed than town on this specific flavour detail? But also ?? nothing about this makes sense.

While I was reading that post I came across this which seems definitely worth commenting on:

[...]

ohhhh okay then that simplifies things a bit, since we don't have to decide who goes into which group

so we basically pick our top 5 townreads I think

I don’t think that’s the mechanically correct thing to do
It “feels” like it’s the right thing but frankly, that may be a huge landmine

I’d at least seriously consider choosing people who’d give the most benefits from getting them in a PoE

I’d also consider what the benefits of having the same players on both teams are. Like- the team that remains in the present will surely have to do something as well

[...]

Yikes. This now looks pretty dodgy.

actually, EVERYONE should write what teams they want to be on.
This should be seriously taken into account.

Somewhat understandable, but also somewhat yikes

[Aisa]

[...]

Looks like it might be necessary to undig that discussion with the two PTs and what it meant for who was on them again.
Fwiw I would agree that your posts look townie, but mostly my read is from mechanics. So that deffo looks lazy.

Don't feel bad for low efforting though. Game only becomes hard to me if MB doesn't flip red.

I genuinely don't quite understand whether this is a joke.

In case it isn't: I guess that if you have genuine concerns they seem worth addressing. Why does that need to be unearthed?

[Vivax]

[...]

Looks like it might be necessary to undig that discussion with the two PTs and what it meant for who was on them again.
Fwiw I would agree that your posts look townie, but mostly my read is from mechanics. So that deffo looks lazy.

Don't feel bad for low efforting though. Game only becomes hard to me if MB doesn't flip red.

I genuinely don't quite understand whether this is a joke.

In case it isn't: I guess that if you have genuine concerns they seem worth addressing. Why does that need to be unearthed?

What I meant to say is that I don't find it worth to overthink the situation until we reach the spot where we lose from a mis-elim.
For now I'm mostly low efforting and just trying to kill everyone who wants to kill me because I'm assuming that's where the mafia is (thinking MB, JF). Subs are a succulent target.

I've been burned from putting high effort in games

almost

, almost designed to be unwinnable.

[Aisa]

Okok so
*deep breath*
I think I may have misunderstood what you meant which caused me to ask a question that did not make sense.
I think you then proceeded to rephrase the one line of your post which I did understand. Which is very much appreciated!

Could you please also explain/rephrase these two lines?

Looks like it might be necessary to undig that discussion with the two PTs and what it meant for who was on them again.
Fwiw I would agree that your posts look townie, but mostly my read is from mechanics. So that deffo looks lazy.

[Aisa]

Like what looks lazy? What is necessary to undig? Why is it necessary?

[Vivax]

Okok so
*deep breath*
I think I may have misunderstood what you meant which caused me to ask a question that did not make sense.
I think you then proceeded to rephrase the one line of your post which I did understand. Which is very much appreciated!

Could you please also explain/rephrase these two lines?

Looks like it might be necessary to undig that discussion with the two PTs and what it meant for who was on them again.
Fwiw I would agree that your posts look townie, but mostly my read is from mechanics. So that deffo looks lazy.

You and GE were the only ones left from the team where two mafias got nabbed, so it's highly unlikely to impossible for you both to have been mafia.
And if I'm not wrong mafia would have auto-lost if they all were on your team, but I'm not sure if I was looking at a hosting mistake.

[Aisa]

Okok so
*deep breath*
I think I may have misunderstood what you meant which caused me to ask a question that did not make sense.
I think you then proceeded to rephrase the one line of your post which I did understand. Which is very much appreciated!

Could you please also explain/rephrase these two lines?

Looks like it might be necessary to undig that discussion with the two PTs and what it meant for who was on them again.
Fwiw I would agree that your posts look townie, but mostly my read is from mechanics. So that deffo looks lazy.

You and GE were the only ones left from the team where two mafias got nabbed, so it's highly unlikely to impossible for you both to have been mafia.

Thanks.
I understand that. My problem is not that Enchant decided that Gamma and I were conftown. That is highly appreciated
What I meant to ask Enchant was why they were so keen to specifically sheep me or Gamma. Just because someone is highly likely to be town doesn't mean you need to hand over control of the game to them.
Am I making any sense?

And if I'm not wrong mafia would have auto-lost if they all were on your team, but I'm not sure if I was looking at a hosting mistake.

Not quite. It worked like this:
ejjinami selected a team of 6. CSF selected a team of 6.
Everyone voted on which team they preferred.
Mafia would have auto lost if the preferred team contained no scum.

[MathBlade]

Spoiler: Fluff

Effort!Aisa was a no show, but don't worry, I've found a substitute. I'm really thankful to Apathy!Aisa for stepping in to take this at the last minute.

So anyway.

CSF flipping maf HIGHLY suggests that last scum outside of team 2, because... Bruh really, why mafia would put all teammates with self, it's critically dumb.
So let's give remainings of Team 2 conftown status and sheep them.

Thanks, now i can go gaming normal games.

You and Gamma conftown, so...

It's kinda you to decide.

Hmm... how does this make sense though? Why would you just sheep me and Gamma instead of trying to form your own reads?

Sorry RR! I'll do my best to avenge you.

I suppose could be Vivax.

Hey Math, what do you think of Andante/JohnnyFarrar?

Also I will be

LA from this Friday to Monday 6 pm BST

.

Townier than Vivax by a mile

I have RL today so this is going to have to do unless I get a chance over lunch until tomorrow.

VOTE: Vivax

What's towny about them? What's scummy about Vivax?

Vivax was pretty scummy yesterday. I also work off a narrative/PoE hunting system.

Players from the other hood are out because then scum don’t get eliminated.

In this hood and still alive is me (town), Johnny, Enchant, and Vivax.

Enchant I doubt makes one of the posts I said earlier.

Johnny has an interesting strategy if scum in buddying me. It’s pretty unlikely Enchant is scum.
So he either has to break his narrative that I am town which the moment he does he’s sus af. So I don’t think Johnny scum does that

So that leaves Vivax

[MathBlade]

Why are you thinking in terms of viable vs who is scum?

It may be that the last scum is townread.

I am thinking Vivax or you based on these pages.

Admittedly I probably should have gone into more depth here but I will have to tomorrow.

Rl is poopy

[Vivax]

Johnny has an interesting strategy if scum in buddying me

Mafia thing to say.
Johnny has been pushing for my kill since forever. If town he wouldn't give a damn about buddying you, just about killing me. This is just a pocketing attempt.

[Enchant]

Spoiler: Fluff

Effort!Aisa was a no show, but don't worry, I've found a substitute. I'm really thankful to Apathy!Aisa for stepping in to take this at the last minute.

So anyway.

CSF flipping maf HIGHLY suggests that last scum outside of team 2, because... Bruh really, why mafia would put all teammates with self, it's critically dumb.
So let's give remainings of Team 2 conftown status and sheep them.

Thanks, now i can go gaming normal games.

You and Gamma conftown, so...

It's kinda you to decide.

Hmm... how does this make sense though? Why would you just sheep me and Gamma instead of trying to form your own reads?

I believe in your judgement more than in myself.

[MathBlade]

Johnny has an interesting strategy if scum in buddying me

Mafia thing to say.
Johnny has been pushing for my kill since forever. If town he wouldn't give a damn about buddying you, just about killing me. This is just a pocketing attempt.

The premise was if he’s scum it’s a weird strategy.

If town he’s telling the truth and townreads me.

??? *confused*

Are you like so desperate to paint me as mafia you aren’t reading?

[JohnnyFarrar]

VOTE: Vivax

[MathBlade]

UNVOTE:

Why no E-1?

[JohnnyFarrar]

Was that E-1? Didn't notice honestly

[Vivax]

Johnny has an interesting strategy if scum in buddying me

Mafia thing to say.
Johnny has been pushing for my kill since forever. If town he wouldn't give a damn about buddying you, just about killing me. This is just a pocketing attempt.

The premise was if he’s scum it’s a weird strategy.

If town he’s telling the truth and townreads me.

??? *confused*

Are you like so desperate to paint me as mafia you aren’t reading?

But you

are

a mafia I am reading, I just quoted a post because I have read something you wrote.
You are just flailing at this point, and I checkmated your poor accusation.

[Enchant]

If Math is mafia, he just waiting in hopes i quickhammer your ass, not unvoting you.

idk

[MathBlade]

Was that E-1? Didn't notice honestly

To elim is 3.

Me + you = 2 = e-1

Spiritually on Vivax but I want to actually get time to type out shit.

[JohnnyFarrar]

If Math is mafia, he just waiting in hopes i quickhammer your ass, not unvoting you.

idk

Yeah my thoughts exactly

[Vivax]

If Math is mafia, he just waiting in hopes i quickhammer your ass, not unvoting you.

idk

There is no escape for him. Once he‘s up against the three of you, you can slowhammer his ass. But it casts a bad light if I get miselimmed before you can win the game. I can‘t live without my pro stats.

I’m confirmed town from posting the townie seal, too. I know it‘s an underhanded way of towntelling, but I give it my all in my games, even dirty tricks like that.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Elimination VC 2.01

Mathblade[1]: Vivax

Vivax[1]: JohnnyFarrar

Not Voting[3]:

Enchant, Mathblade, Aisa

Event

Deadline

(expired on 2022-07-20 01:00:00)

[Enchant]

[MathBlade]

If Math is mafia, he just waiting in hopes i quickhammer your ass, not unvoting you.

idk

There is no escape for him. Once he‘s up against the three of you, you can slowhammer his ass. But it casts a bad light if I get miselimmed before you can win the game. I can‘t live without my pro stats.

I’m confirmed town from posting the townie seal, too. I know it‘s an underhanded way of towntelling, but I give it my all in my games, even dirty tricks like that.

This can be written for you too just swapping a few things

It’s bravado.

You don’t have an actual argument why I am scum.

I do have an argument I just am busy coughing repeatedly. I will get to it when I don’t feel like shit.

[Vivax]

If Math is mafia, he just waiting in hopes i quickhammer your ass, not unvoting you.

idk

There is no escape for him. Once he‘s up against the three of you, you can slowhammer his ass. But it casts a bad light if I get miselimmed before you can win the game. I can‘t live without my pro stats.

I’m confirmed town from posting the townie seal, too. I know it‘s an underhanded way of towntelling, but I give it my all in my games, even dirty tricks like that.

This can be written for you too just swapping a few things

It’s bravado.

You don’t have an actual argument why I am scum.

I do have an argument I just am busy coughing repeatedly. I will get to it when I don’t feel like shit.

It's PoE. I wrote off Aisa, Enchant and Johnny, though I'm not sold on Johnny. He's just getting a free ride here if mafia, but I'm okay with that because he's such a cool cowboy.
I know you are busy coughing up an argument repeatedly, just that you have no argument. Checkmate again,

MATH

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