In post 277, Irrelephant11 wrote:I mean surely you didn’t expect anyone to be pro active when deadline is still like multiple-large-mafia-games’ length away
I kinda feel like this is scummy to some extent. It's kinda like "hey, why bother being active" and kinda gives way to what I'm using to judge as scummy/townie for this game. I won't go in-depth on it solely because it kinda defeats the purpose of what I have in mind for trying to help me compile and double-check my reads.
In post 305, Jingle wrote:Hey guys. I would like to share with you that FB gave me my role PM and I am far more powerful than I was before. Now I can vote!
I don't think voting alone is very much more powerful in this game, so I certainly feel that this is softing that Jingle is a PR of sorts.
I ended up shelving the book for a long while. A lot of IRL things happened and I've just decided that it'd be better for now if I put it on hold.
In post 321, Jingle wrote: In post 319, Ramcius wrote:If you give us your buddies, I will consider your offer - they still can kill, if you don't
I can no more give you people than I can sell you them. Slavery is illegal.
I will take applications for being protected by me though. It's easier to play if you have arbitrary townreads to never question.
Like I said before, I feel like jingle is hinting that he's a pr, but this kinda makes me question if he's a tpr or mpr, (mafia pr). I doubt he'd be some sorta third-party survivor-like role in the first place, so I'm kinda debating between him being town and mafia.
In post 323, Jingle wrote:Guys, I think raucous is scum. He’s trying to undermine my townreads.
What do you mean exactly by that?
In post 324, Ramcius wrote:Remind me in 10 months then, I might vote this raucous guy, if I won't have anything better
I set a reminder. You'll get reminded about it in 10 months from that post.
I really don't like this post in general. Care to explain why Ram was your placeholder vote?
In post 326, 0verki11 wrote:oh right im in this game, and forgot last months post shit, anyway Jingle feels townie.
See you nexr month guys, setting the alarm now
I'd kinda disagree with you on Jingle being townie, but, I'd like to hear your reasoning behind it.
Kinda.
In post 391, Ramcius wrote:Why do I feel like people are ganging against me? If so, I'm flattered that you think you can't take me alone and need support
I didn't really get that feel when I was reading it back. Why did you get that feeling though?
I'm curious why you're curious about that. On one hand, I feel like this would be such an obvious answer, (yes), but on the other, it probably could be left open. I don't get the point of asking about it though.
In post 492, Ramcius wrote:Well, Ank, I have witnessed you missing, when it came to scumhunting
Ank is a normal. I hope you realize that. If Ank were to be a player in the first place, I'd agree that this would be something to call out, but, seeing as they're a normal, care to explain why?
In post 557, Irrelephant11 wrote: In post 305, Jingle wrote:Hey guys. I would like to share with you that FB gave me my role PM and I am far more powerful than I was before. Now I can vote!
In post 317, Jingle wrote:I promise to no kill if I'm scum. Just to make the game even longer.
These don’t feel that towny
Hard agree on this from Irrel. While it could be a bit of a low-hanging fruit type of read, I still agree with it.
In post 583, Jingle wrote:I'd just like to point out that I replaced in and I have the second most votes. Yall is slacking.
I'm intending to change that.
OwO
In post 825, Jingle wrote:The worst part about this game is that I can’t accuse everyone of lurking when no ones posted for a week. How ar we ever going to hit 10000 pages this way?
I think you could accuse people of lurking if they don't post for a month or two straight.
If you mean like a PT to post thoughts in privately, yes. I actually did towards the very beginning of the game, (like I did in Stack the Deck under Vex), just to help me organize my thoughts out without the use of a google doc, and so I can just go back and see how my thoughts have changed over time.
quote="In
post 994, Jingle"]Speaking of mafia, has everybody forgotten that I claimed a hideously broken PR so that I don't get nightkilled?
If not, can we get on that? Thanks.[/quote]
No, but I don't believe your broken PR claim. Like I said, I think you're a PR, but I'm not sure if you're TPR or MPR.
In post 1029, 0verki11 wrote:im propsing that we leave all upcoming days (and this one) until to final 10min of the day to decide on who we lynch.
This feels really scummy to me. Like, I don't really like this. I get that it's a really long game and that we're gonna have a lot of dead-time in playing, but, I don't like leaving a very short period of time to decide this stuff. I'd rather spend like 6 months of the game altogether, (if not more), playing the game and then spend the rest shitposting and whatnot. If we were to do that, I'd like the last two months to be dedicated to playing, but the last month should
always
be spent playing seriously.
In post 1073, Irrelephant11 wrote:NO
SORRY I STILL HAVE CAPS LOCK ON FROM A DESIGN PROJECT I'M DOING
I'LL NEED IT AGAIN IN A MINUTE SO I'M LEAVING IT
JINGLE YOU AND NANCY BOTH HAD ENTRANCES TO THE THREAD I THOUGHT WEREN'T TOWNY (YOURS SPECIFICALLY AFTER YOU GOT YOUR ROLE PM)
SINCE IMMEDIATELY AFTER GETTING A ROLE PM IS THE ONLY TIME ANYONE HERE HAS REALLY PLAYED MAFIA, THAT LEAVES ME SCUMREADING YOU TWO AND NULLTOWNING MOST OTHER PLAYERS
Actually, I agree with Irrel on this once again. I feel like Jingle's wasn't the greatest, but Nancy's wasn't much better either.
In post 1074, Jingle wrote:Nah, I've actually had a purpose to a lot of what I've done.
I have a legitimate scumread on Ramcius and OK, and I feel like I'm the obvious NK. You're just bad at reading between the lines.
Why do you have a scumread on Ram? And why do you feel like you're the obvious NK?
In post 1078, Jingle wrote: In post 323, Jingle wrote:Guys, I think raucous is scum. He’s trying to undermine my townreads.
Mostly from around this timeframe. Has not improved since.
I'd have to re-iso Ram, but I think some of his posts in between were attempting to play seriously. I think. I'm not really sure.
In post 1083, Jingle wrote:Reads:
Jingle Town
Gemerald Town
Postie Town
Korina Town
Raucous Scum
OK Scum
If I maintain this rate I should have a game solve in three years.
Why is GE and Postie town to you? I agree on Overkill being scum, but I'd like to see your reasoning.
I agree once again with Irrel, and I'm gonna reply to Jingle in the next post.
In post 1095, Jingle wrote:You copied the joke made in the previous post.
If you thought the joke was funny, I wouldn't expect a direct copy. If you thought the joke was useless, I wouldn't expect a response at all. Instead, what I get looks like you want to be seen to be active and posting but that you don't actually care what the content you produce is, which is >rand scum.
I feel like in a game like this, where it'd be extremely easy for scum to lurk out of the game, if scum were trying to play seriously, they would care about what they're posting. I feel like town is a bit more likely to not really care since nobody really seems to be taking the game seriously (at the point of that post, at least).
If scum were to be active and trying to direct the game, they'd be very mindful of what they're saying. They wouldn't wanna appear to have some ulterior motive in the game. So, I don't really see your point in bringing that up unless you're trying to just shade Irrel.
Hard-agree on this post with Irrel.
In post 1107, Jingle wrote:
Do they?
They definitely care that they're seen to be producing content, sure. You could even say that they care whether their content is immediately scummy. But I find it FAR more likely that someone would read the first half as a line and post the same joke as is in the second half as someone who wants to seem like they're doing something than someone who actually thinks the joke is funny/worth making.
I'm not following what you're getting at. ELI5 please?
In post 1117, Jingle wrote: In post 1115, Irrelephant11 wrote:You asked me for my thoughts regarding my assertion that the only readable content has been people’s entrances
But their... my assertions
So unless you have a specific new question I answered your question before you asked it
Pedit: I don’t believe that you believe that
So you're saying that you have not reconsidered any other portion of the thread since I said that there was potentially AI information in it?
Why don't I believe that?
Also, because you still haven't answered, why was nancy's entrance bad?
Ik it wasn't directed at me, but, I personally feel Nancy's entrance was bad just because it was very like, "Oh, I'll catch up eventually" and that's all there was to it. IIRC, at the point of Nancy's entrance, a few people were starting to try to play the game seriously, so it makes the post feel out of place.
In post 1156, Ramcius wrote:Sorry that I don't pay that much attention to this game and some things slips my mind. I saw Ank's claim, I saw your CC and just went ahead with my joke
Also I find it funny that you're doing same thing as I do - clogging this thread with jokes and other not game related posts, you even post more than I do,
but it's me, who is scum
If you want serious talk, what your read on Nancy?
Wdym by the bolded part?
And also, I need to re-iso Nancy, (and everyone else), but I find Nancy scummy overall.
Why? Are you a survivor or something? Care to explain why you don't wanna be lynched apart from the generic "I don't wanna die" thing? You haven't really been contributing that much, so I feel like you're trying to hide something.
In post 1161, Jingle wrote:
Don't really have one, hence why I'm pushing relly to elaborate on why her entrance was bad.
And yeah, I definitely want to be active in this thread. That's pretty clear. I think the why for me and the why for you are markedly different, and I think that makes you scum. Considering where we are in the game? I think that's a fair analysis.
How does that make him scum? I'm not really following. I'll also post my thoughts on Ram v Jingle at the very end.
In post 1170, Ramcius wrote:Well, when someone is spamming like no tomorrow in one game and becomes hardcore lurker in other, I find it strange. On top of that, I wonder, did she replaced in just to lurk? I expect more enthusiasm from town
Lastly, you didn't asked why her entry post is scummy - we both know that it wasn't bad, it was most generic, safe post you can come up and gives really strong scum vibe coupled with radio silence afterwards
I'm actually agreeing with Ram, and I was starting to get to the same sorta end-result when looking at Nancy's entrance.
In post 1175, Jingle wrote:
You mean round 1? If I remember right, you didn't question Jack. You said I shouldn't trust my townreads which I had not shared.
Which townread would you like me to elaborate on?
Mind elaborating on all of them for me?
In post 1177, Ramcius wrote: In post 1175, Jingle wrote:
You mean round 1? If I remember right, you didn't question Jack. You said I shouldn't trust my townreads which I had not shared.
Which townread would you like me to elaborate on?
I said it was too early to make reads, we were early RVS stage after all, but instead shoving that your reads had some basis you decided call me scum for it
You have only 3 of them, it shouldn't be too difficult to explain all 3
Ik it's a bit unrelated to the quote, but, Ram, do you have any reads of your own?
This is scummy af IMO. This doesn't sit well with me. Why lock-town someone questioning if we're actually playing the game? If anything, it's NAI, or slightly scummy to me.
In post 1192, Nancy Drew 39 wrote: In post 1115, Irrelephant11 wrote:You asked me for my thoughts regarding my assertion that the only readable content has been people’s entrances
But their... my assertions
So unless you have a specific new question I answered your question before you asked it
Pedit: I don’t believe that you believe that
scum because actually playing the game. Probably our traitor. It’s all in the subtle signalling.
How does playing the game = scum? I know that you've said before that not to take it seriously, but I am. Care to explain why you think that way? If so, what are your thoughts on me, Jingle and Ram?
I don't like this post in reply to the joke. It... I don't know how to describe it, but it doesn't really sit that well with me.
In post 1198, Nancy Drew 39 wrote: In post 1183, Jingle wrote: In post 1180, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
You’ll actually have to better than Overkill 2, when I was the leading wagon, before I even made a single post. I still haven’t read what’s going on but according to the rules, I have a year, right?
About 8 months, actually. Time flies when you're shitposting aggressively.
I find it hillarious that Ram and relly are actually bother to make serious reads. lmao
Why do you find that funny?
Which way? Do you find Nancy scummy or townie?
In post 1235, Nancy Drew 39 wrote: In post 1232, Jingle wrote:
Yes. Your response indicates you don't understand the question.
I don’t really care who busses me, so long as they’re an actual player in this game. I trust that this is considered satisfactory?
This doesn't sit well with me once again. This doesn't ever feel townie to me. This feels scummy or like a jester. Either way, this is something a vig should reasonably shoot every single time.
In post 1243, Nancy Drew 39 wrote: In post 1238, Jingle wrote:They're related. It's apparently eyebrow-raising that Relly and Ram have reads, but my reads aren't.
I don't understand the double standard. I also don't understand why you think attempting to make reads is inherently funny.
I try to treat all of my scum buddies the same. Sorry, I’ll do better.
You don’t think it is . . . in THIS game . . . seriously?
I actually don’t know why anyone is taking anything I’ve posted so far in this game seriously.
Maybe because it feels really scummy?
In post 1249, Jingle wrote:With the amount of shade Ram is throwing my way, I'm not sure I'll see the sun for months. OK is still refusing to interact with the thread, but that's a stated stance until December, so it's less troubling overall. Nancy is acting weird, and I can understand a scumread there now, but Relly should really talk more about how there's no way to read anything but entrances before 1073 and why he didn't look for AI things outside of entrances when I said they exist. He should also talk about why he scumread Nancy in 1057 (entrance was scummy is the emptiest read I've ever heard). Also he should talk about why I'm unlikely to try to read into the motivation behind Ramcius's behavior.
And, just in case my blank vote unvoted,
VOTE: Ramcius
I'd need to re-read it again, but care to point out why Ram is throwing shade on you? Also, why are you fine with Overkill not posting but not fine with Irrel not posting?
How so, and what exactly do you mean?
Once again, why are you reacting that way to that? It doesn't sit well with me ever, and it feels scummy.
In post 1278, Jingle wrote: In post 1267, Ramcius wrote:What is your reason to scumread Nancy then, if it's not early activity?
Because she's treating similar behaviors from separate people differently, which implies that she has an ulterior motive and is not in fact attempting to read them by behavior.
Care to go more in-depth on what you mean? I kinda see where you're going, but I wanna make sure I get what you're going for.
I mean, for that point at the game, people were trying to play seriously. Why wouldn't you also participate?
This feels scummy to me as well. It feels like it was just thrown out there to say something and appear to be helping out the town. It's not really though.
In post 1299, Ramcius wrote:Why do I feel like Jingle is traitor, but FB didn't told him his buddies names? Cause I understand less and less of what Jingle is trying to do in this game as we move on
If that's the case, then do you think that he's trying to signal? I feel like as scum, I wouldn't notice him trying to signal however.
In post 1343, Ramcius wrote:Oh, answer is obvious, I just wanted to hear it from you - you're making this thread harder to read for some reason
I actually agree with this post. I ended up cutting out several quotes from Jingle because I felt like there was something there, but the second I started to dig into them, I couldn't really get anywhere with it.
Anyways, thoughts on Ram v Jingle:
I feel like it's either a TvT or TvS situation. It's never SvS imo. Even if it's multiball or there's a SK or something like that, I don't think Ram and Jingle are ever on different scum-teams. They're either town and scum or town and town. Now, if I had to call out one of them being scum, I'd probably lean closer to Jingle in the first place, but... I'd like to iso everyone first and make my reads before going any further with that.
**********We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)~the worst*******Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl~CheekyTeeky***Nancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.~Taly
**********We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)~the worst*******Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl~CheekyTeeky***Nancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.~Taly
**********We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)~the worst*******Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl~CheekyTeeky***Nancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.~Taly
