Mafia #100 - Game Over

[GLaDOS]

... Processing ...

You structured your speech as if it were a closing argument to a jury, but instead of submitting the question of whether or not DeathNote is guilty to the jury, you acted as the jury yourself. So in that sense your speech was rather nonsensical.

If DeathNote is town, however, then your speech was clearly fantastic and as a result you should Vig Amished overnight.

~

I saw that DeathNote was online just a little bit earlier. It would be much appreciated if he would come to the thread and reveal whether or not he is scum, because I really do not want to read over this game again to make a case against Amished if I do not have to. There is something to be said for suspense, but there is more to be said about my time, which is very limited.

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Vote Count

DeathNote

: (3) GLaDOS, Amished, RayFrost

Not Voting

: (1) DeathNote

Vote Threshold

: 3

Happiness with Posting Level

:

Unimportant

DeathNote, American Mafia Roleblocker

, was lynched D6.

Town wins!

Amished

was a

Vanilla Townie

.

GLaDOS

was a

Vanilla Townie

.

RayFrost

was the

Vigilante

.

[RayFrost]

BOO YAH.

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Original Role PMs:

Benmage:

You are a

Mafia Godfather

. Your partners are

Vamparific, Mafia Roleblocker

, and

hewitt, Mafia Rolecop

. You are NK Immune - you will not die during the night. Your scumteam has a nightkill and can nighttalk here.

You are a threat to the town.

Nightkill specs:

Any player may be targeted. That person will die that night, unless the kill is interfered with. If the killer is not explicitly stated, whoever PMs me will perform the kill. Godfather gets precedence.

You win when all living players are a part of your faction, or nothing can prevent the same.

Game thread is here. When everyone has opened their PM, D1 will begin.

Vamparific:

You are a

Mafia Roleblocker

. Your partners are

Benmage, Mafia Godfather

(NK Immune), and

hewitt, Mafia Rolecop

. You have a night-block. Your scumteam has a nightkill and can nighttalk here.

You are a threat to the town.

Night-block specs:

Any player may be targeted. Any actions that that person attempts at night will fail.

Nightkill specs:

Any player may be targeted. That person will die that night, unless the kill is interfered with. If the killer is not explicitly stated, whoever PMs me will perform the kill. Godfather gets precedence.

You win when all living players are a part of your faction, or nothing can prevent the same.

Game thread is here. When everyone has opened their PM, D1 will begin.

X:

Roleblocked players do not visit their targets.

hewitt:

You are a

Mafia Rolecop

. Your partners are

Benmage, Mafia Godfather

(NK Immune), and

Vamparific, Mafia Roleblocker

. You have a detailed night-investigation. Your scumteam has a nightkill and can nighttalk here.

You are a threat to the town.

Detailed Night-investigation specs:

Any player may be targeted. You will receive a PM including the player's Role Name and Win Condition, unless the investigation is interfered with.

Nightkill specs:

Any player may be targeted. That person will die that night, unless the kill is interfered with. If the killer is not explicitly stated, whoever PMs me will perform the kill. Godfather gets precedence.

You win when all living players are a part of your faction, or nothing can prevent the same.

Game thread is here. When everyone has opened their PM, D1 will begin.

Result:

Code: Select all

[b]USERNAME, ROLE NAME[/b]

[i]WIN CONDITION[/i]

Black Jinx:

You are a

Mafia Godfather

. Your partners are

Ditto, Mafia Goon

,

qwints, Mafia Goon

, and a

Mafia Traitor

. You are Investigation Immune - a Sane Cop would receive an Innocent upon investigating you. Your scumteam has a nightkill and can nighttalk here.

You are a threat to the town.

Nightkill specs:

Any player may be targeted. That person will die that night, unless the kill is interfered with. If the killer is not explicitly stated, whoever PMs me will perform the kill. Godfather gets precedence.

You win when all living players are a part of your faction, or nothing can prevent the same.

Game thread is here. When everyone has opened their PM, D1 will begin.

Ditto:

You are a

Mafia Goon

. Your partners are

Black Jinx, Mafia Godfather

(Inv Immune),

qwints, Mafia Goon

, and a

Mafia Traitor

. Your scumteam has a nightkill and can nighttalk here.

You are a threat to the town.

Nightkill specs:

Any player may be targeted. That person will die that night, unless the kill is interfered with. If the killer is not explicitly stated, whoever PMs me will perform the kill. Godfather gets precedence.

You win when all living players are a part of your faction, or nothing can prevent the same.

Game thread is here. When everyone has opened their PM, D1 will begin.

qwints:

You are a

Mafia Goon

. Your partners are

Black Jinx, Mafia Godfather

(Inv Immune),

Ditto, Mafia Goon

, and a

Mafia Traitor

. Your scumteam has a nightkill and can nighttalk here.

You are a threat to the town.

Nightkill specs:

Any player may be targeted. That person will die that night, unless the kill is interfered with. If the killer is not explicitly stated, whoever PMs me will perform the kill. Godfather gets precedence.

You win when all living players are a part of your faction, or nothing can prevent the same.

Game thread is here. When everyone has opened their PM, D1 will begin.

Snow White:

You are a

Mafia Traitor

. Your partners are

Black Jinx, Mafia Godfather

(Inv Immune),

Ditto, Mafia Goon

, and

qwints, Mafia Goon

.

IMPORTANT:

You may not PM your partners. That would be a violation of Rule 6.

You are a threat to the town.
If all of your partners die, you will inherit their Nightkill power.

You win when all living players are a part of your faction, or nothing can prevent the same.

Game thread is here. When everyone has opened their PM, D1 will begin.

X:

If the rest of the Sicilian Mafia dies, PM the Sicilian Mafia Traitor a quote of the NK power.

Gegenstand:

You are a

Cop

. You have a night-investigation.

You are not a threat to the town.

Night-investigation:

Any player may be targeted. You will receive a result of Guilty or Innocent, which may or may not be reliable.

You win when no living players are a threat to the town.

Game thread is here. When everyone has opened their PM, D1 will begin.

X:

Sane.

Result:

Code: Select all

[b][color=green/red]USERNAME:  Innocent/Guilty[/color][/b]

Pomegranate:

You are a

Doctor

. You can night-protect.

You are not a threat to the town.

Night-protect specs:

Any player except the protector may be targeted. That person will not die that night, unless the protection is interfered with.

You win when no living players are a threat to the town.

Game thread is here. When everyone has opened their PM, D1 will begin.

ConfidAnon:

You are a

Vigilante

. You have a nightkill.

You are not a threat to the town.

Nightkill specs:

Any player may be targeted. That person will die that night, unless the kill is interfered with.

You win when no living players are a threat to the town.

Game thread is here. When everyone has opened their PM, D1 will begin.

tubby216:

You are a

Watcher

. You hold a night-watch.

You are not a threat to the town.

Night-watch specs:

Any player may be targeted. You will receive a list of the other players who targeted that target.

You win when no living players are a threat to the town.

Game thread is here. When everyone has opened their PM, D1 will begin.

Result:

Code: Select all

[b]USERNAME[/b] was targeted by:[list][b]1
2
3
...[/b][/list]

BloodCovenent, dramonic, Kise, Konowa, magichands, orangepenguin, randomlunatic, TylerJ, Volume:

You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

You are not a threat to the town.

You win when no living players are a threat to the town.

Game thread is here. When everyone has opened their PM, D1 will begin.

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Player List:

• ~Jordan`, Vanilla Townie
  CooLDoG; Diamondilium; Volume
  
  
  Amished, Vanilla Townie
  Slicey, Konowa
  
  
  Battle Mage, Cop
  Gegenstand
  
  
  Benmage, American Mafia Godfather
  
  
  Black Jinx, Sicilian Mafia Godfather
  
  
  BloodCovenent, Vanilla Townie
  
  
  DeathNote, American Mafia Roleblocker
  Vamparific
  
  
  Ditto, Sicilian Mafia Goon
  
  
  dramonic, Vanilla Townie
  
  
  GLaDOS, Vanilla Townie
  randomlunatic
  
  
  hewitt, American Mafia Rolecop
  
  
  Kise, Vanilla Townie
  
  
  Knight of Cydonia, Vanilla Townie
  Darthgrim89; magichands
  
  
  orangepengiun, Vanilla Townie
  
  
  Pomegranate, Doctor
  
  
  qwints, Sicilian Mafia Goon
  
  
  RayFrost, Vigilante
  Hulk; ConfidAnon
  
  
  Snow White, Sicilian Mafia Traitor
  
  
  tubby216, Watcher
  
  
  TylerJ, Vanilla Townie

Night Actions:

N1:

hewitt, American Mafia Rolecop

, shoots

Ditto, Sicilian Mafia Goon

Ditto, Sicilian Mafia Goon

, shoots

Pomegranate, Doctor

DeathNote, American Mafia Roleblocker

, roleblocks

TylerJ, Vanilla Townie

hewitt, American Mafia Rolecop

, investigates

dramonic, Vanilla Townie

Battle Mage, Cop

, investigates

ConfidAnon, Vigilante

Pomegranate, Doctor

, protects

Snow White, Sicilian Mafia Traitor

ConfidAnon, Vigilante

, shoots

TylerJ, Vanilla Townie

tubby216, Watcher

, watches

Ditto, Sicilian Mafia Goon

hewitt, American Mafia Rolecop

, receives:

dramonic, Vanilla Townie

You win when no living players are a threat to the town.

Battle Mage, Cop

, receives:

ConfidAnon: Innocent

tubby216, Watcher

, receives:

Ditto

was targeted by:

• hewitt

N2:

hewitt, American Mafia Rolecop

, shoots

Black Jinx, Sicilian Mafia Godfather

qwints, Sicilian Mafia Godfather

, shoots

Kise, Vanilla Townie

DeathNote, American Mafia Roleblocker

, roleblocks

Kise, Vanilla Townie

hewitt, American Mafia Rolecop

, investigates

Snow White, Sicilian Mafia Traitor

Battle Mage, Cop

, investigates

Benmage, American Mafia Godfather

RayFrost, Vigilante

, shoots

qwints, Sicilian Mafia Goon

hewitt, American Mafia Rolecop

, receives:

Snow White, Mafia Traitor

You win when all living players are a part of your faction, or nothing can prevent the same.

Battle Mage, Cop

, receives:

Benmage: Guilty

Snow White, Sicilian Mafia Traitor

, receives:

You now have a nightkill.

Nightkill specs:

Any player may be targeted. That person will die that night, unless the kill is interfered with.

If the killer is not explicitly stated, whoever PMs me will perform the kill. Godfather gets precedence.

N3:

DeathNote, American Mafia Roleblocker

, shoots

Battle Mage, Cop

Snow White, Sicilian Mafia Traitor

, shoots

Battle Mage, Cop

DeathNote, American Mafia Roleblocker

, roleblocks

RayFrost, Vigilante

hewitt, American Mafia Rolecop

, investigates

Amished, Vanilla Townie

Battle Mage, Cop

, does not investigate

RayFrost, Vigilante

, shoots

hewitt, American Mafia Rolecop

hewitt, American Mafia Rolecop

, receives:

Amished, Vanilla Townie

You win when no living players are a threat to the town.

N4:

hewitt, American Mafia Rolecop

, shoots

Knight of Cydonia, Vanilla Townie

DeathNote, American Mafia Roleblocker

, roleblocks

RayFrost, Vigilante

hewitt, American Mafia Rolecop

, does not investigate

RayFrost, Vigilante

, shoots

hewitt, American Mafia Rolecop

N5:

DeathNote, American Mafia Roleblocker

, shoots

Kreriov, Vanilla Townie

DeathNote, American Mafia Roleblocker

, does not roleblock

RayFrost, Vigilante

, shoots

dramonic, Vanilla Townie

[RayFrost]

Mod, was there a scum QT we could see?

X:

I shall let the scum decide if you get to see the QT.

[RayFrost]

Well, scum... may we see the QT?

[RayFrost]

Well, QTs.

[tubby216]

meh i failed this game,

good job ray and the rest of the town

[GLaDOS]

... Processing ...

This was a triumph.

[dramonic]

I TOLD YA!

[hewitt]

HAHA omg this game was a hoot to me. i would laugh my ass off everytime i logged on thanks fer making it so entertaining you guys. yeah they can see the QT i don't have the link here though.

[Amished]

Good deal. The claim fell apart when Ray was allowed to vig (clearly they needed to reduce numbers) and claimed blocked. I think I would've blocked Ray, tried to survive for a day with a fake investigation and go from there.

Starting off a game I suck at, but replacing in I have accuracy of over 50% in my last few games as town (in games ended/revealed so far.) Hmm, any suggestions on how to work on starting a game off and finding scum that way?

[hewitt]

you know what my favorite part about this game was?

on N1 benmage chose me to shoot ditto and i had absolutely no idea. so when tubby was talking asking me who i shoot the night before and stuff i legit had NO idea what he was talkinga bout lol.

[Pomegranate]

Hi everyone! I followed the entire game; it was enjoyable to read through. Sometimes there was too much role speculation, but the town played a great game. GG all!

Ditto(, one of you), why'd you kill me N1? Was it the VT-Vanilla Townie thing? I was mad at OP about that. Why'd he point it out?

[Pomegranate]

you know what my favorite part about this game was?

on N1 benmage chose me to shoot ditto and i had absolutely no idea. so when tubby was talking asking me who i shoot the night before and stuff i legit had NO idea what he was talkinga bout lol.

Seriously? I love large games.

[dramonic]

This game was great. Except for Ray shooting me. That sucked

[Amished]

You were looking kinda suspicious with putting suspicion on Ray for no reason though...

[BloodCovenent]

Wow, good job town! I wish I could have followed the game. And I feel stupid that I failed at the beginning of the game.

[dramonic]

well, barring that I had the wrong primary target I was right

[hewitt]

you know what my favorite part about this game was?

on N1 benmage chose me to shoot ditto and i had absolutely no idea. so when tubby was talking asking me who i shoot the night before and stuff i legit had NO idea what he was talkinga bout lol.

Seriously? I love large games.

yeah it was so funny it created a LOT of confusion on my part so after like two days of PMing X so i could figure out if i was the one who shot ditto i was finally like fuck it i'm a vig i guess lol.

[hewitt]

well, barring that I had the wrong primary target I was right

haha i thought i was a goner like D3 and people kept putting suspicion on rayfrost and i was like HELLO he's confirmed town by battle mage! of course i couldn't point that out lol. when somebody finally did though i was like aw fuck okay game's up.

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X:

This game was quite the exercise in modding. There were definitely times that I was unsure that I had treated things in the right way, but looking back, I feel pretty justified.

First, the setup. I thought a powerful 3 man scumteam and a weak 4 man scumteam was fairly balanced beforehand. I think the Sicilians would have been stronger if their Traitor made it clear who they were in D1 and D2. And with cross-kills, the Town definitely was strong enough to hold their own (proved by the outcome, even with one PR modkilled). So I think the teams were pretty balanced. As for being Normal, it definitely follows the guidelines set up in the Wiki. Part of my decision to include the

Mafia Traitor

, the least Normal role in here, was to challenge the concept that it is Normal. I'm interested to hear everyone's opinion on this.

As for activity, it wasn't really bad or really good. Some of the later Days went really quickly - quick enough that people didn't have time to receive prods. The number of replacements, however, was kinda high, I think - 12. But it got better toward the end. Thanks a lot to everyone who's name is listed in black on the Player List in the OP.

I also compiled a list of bothersome/scary things for a mod:
1. The necessity to merging many posts into one. (Post 55, Post 1019)
2. Being "yelled" at by a player who got replaced because he went over the time limit.
3. Insults between players. (Post 105, Post 201, Post 357, Post 611, Post 629, Post 1024, Post 1240)
4. Discussing Role PM wordings. (Post 151, Post 274)
5. Discussing an ongoing game (Post 310)
6. Threats to Blacklist (Post 844)
7. Town fakeclaiming.
8. Needing to be replaced overNight.
9. Mafia families talking during Twilight.

Other interesting things:
1. Vanilla Townies asking for Investigation Results.
2. Mafia families trying to have dead family members perform the kill.
3. People replacing in writing out an Oath of Commitment to the game.

And as for the play, the American Mafia was doing really well at the beginning. The Sicilians were down to their Mafia Traitor pretty early in the game, which really surprised me. I am surprised that Battle Mage's gambit worked out well for Town, but it definitely did. Toward the end, it looked pretty close among the Americans and the Town, but the dichotomy of Vigs made it difficult for the Mafia to last very long. Well done, Town!

With respect to the modkill, I had considered modkilling someone (I don't remember whether it was tubby or not) before I actually did it. It was a scary decision, but I think it made a somewhat abrasive game a little less abrasive. Toward the end, the insults weren't really insults, but some of the earlier ones translated really poorly over the internet, or were actually mean. I plan to necro this thread about civility in Mafia Games in MD now that this game is over.

For clarification,

tubby216, Watcher

, did not win, because of the modkill.

Any comments that anyone has for me, good or bad, are appreciated. Unless you're mad that you got replaced/modkilled.

[Pomegranate]

I liked the setup(, Mafia Traitor included). It wasn't too plain, and was very fair to all factions. I think the 3 man mafia team was about equal to the four man; they lasted a lot longer.

[Amished]

The only problem that I saw was the overabundance of scum. We needed those crosskills to come to an endgame like this. We had 2 mislynches. Our vig was unsuccessful except for one (and blocked another time) which is about what I'd expect from a vig, but if it wasn't for Hewitt flat out shooting two Sicilians, I think it was unwinnable for the town.

Which brings me to my next point: Hewitt, did you know they were scum, or did you think they were power roles? Tubby watching you shoot somebody was a big nail in your coffin regarding that, but you could've gone for other scummy behavior if you really thought they were scum. This easily could've led to an endgame where you had the power roles and just outpowered the Sicilians rather than anything else.