Mini 1511: Insurgency Emergency (Game Over)


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Post Post #1475 (ISO) » Fri Dec 13, 2013 10:07 am

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Sorry. Give me a day or so. Gonna go look through Skelda's ISO again.

I don't think scumFitz would do all of ^^^ that work and still give away that he actually thinks I'm town. I'm a nice easy lynch that I think is attractive to scum. So why is Fitz the wagon? Because scum are already on there.
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Post Post #1476 (ISO) » Fri Dec 13, 2013 10:41 am

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VOTECOUNT 4.4
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2
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4


Humble Poirot [2]
- havingfitz, Elyse

havingfitz [1]
- Humble Poirot

Elyse [1]
- EspeciallytheLies


Not Voting [2]
- implosion, aphix


With 6 alive, it takes
4[/i]
votes to lynch.


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Post Post #1477 (ISO) » Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:06 am

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In post 1475, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Sorry. Give me a day or so. Gonna go look through Skelda's ISO again.

I don't think scumFitz would do all of ^^^ that work and still give away that he actually thinks I'm town. I'm a nice easy lynch that I think is attractive to scum. So why is Fitz the wagon? Because scum are already on there.
Well the only one on the fitz wagon is HP and you're voting for me...

@fitz
I think it's ETL and HP. Her vote on me makes no sense and her backtrack on you seems very forced and reluctant.

Hopefully implo can get a shot off.
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Post Post #1478 (ISO) » Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:11 am

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Ok, so after reading Skelda's ISO, I found some interesting stuff.

All of her scum reads, with the exception of HF who is still alive, turned out to be town. All of them. So, I'm inclined to believe that she town-read her partner(s) the entire time.

This cuts the pool down to {aphix, Implosion, HP}, except she nulled on aphix and implosion, going a bit back and forth on both, one way or the other, as suspicions did. I have aphix pretty firmly in my town pile.

Implosion's claim:
I believe it, and thus he is town. Thinking about the setup, and the deaths/claims we have had, I don't believe we would have an SK. Our JK died N1, which could explain a lack of a second kill N1 (if there was an SK), but not N2. EPM doesn't make sense as an SK target, so debating that both SK and scum targeted the same person is silly. SK is out the window. Implosion has also not been CC'd, so he is most definitely town.

Even taking Aphix out of my town pile, this leaves only {aphix, HP} as possible partners for Skelda. Except she nulled aphix in 1356, and threw yet another town read at HP.

In fact, HP is the ONLY person she has not wavered on the entire game. Everyone else was scum, or a nullscum read that went back and forth. Every single one of her "scum reads" turned up town. So Fitz is town too. So is Elyse.

VOTE: HP

I know you all think I'm an asshole or whatever, but my reads are good. I chose to put in a little effort when I first replaced in and I found Skelda. I put in a little more and I found HP. Look at my push on Rach and you will see that included zero effort on my part and was nearly all gut. I'm sorry for that, but without that flip, I wouldn't have been able to find this here now.

Vote HP. He is the partner.
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Post Post #1479 (ISO) » Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:11 am

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Hi Elyse.

Yep. You got it. HP.
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Post Post #1480 (ISO) » Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:15 am

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Also, the existence of a vig leads me to believe we are only looking for 2 scum, and not 3, but if there is a third, based solely on Skelda associations, I'd have to guess aphix, as much as I don't really agree with that idea by gut, it makes sense.
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Post Post #1481 (ISO) » Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:16 am

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I'm also going to guess that Implosion is x-shot, probably 1-shot, because he said he was "basically useless" now.
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Post Post #1482 (ISO) » Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:22 am

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He already said he was 2-shot??? Unless I'm remembering wrong.

I will accept your help in lynching HP. Hopefully I was wrong about you. But I still think you're scum.

Why do you think a vig indicates only 2 scum? I think a serial killer would indicate that but not a vig. Have you seen that before?
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Post Post #1483 (ISO) » Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:26 am

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I missed where he said he was 2-shot.

Just for the sake of balance. Since scum are killing and vig is shooting, and we have only (presumably) a JK to stop any of that from hitting town. If you figure, scum and vig hit town N1, thats 3 down with the lynch, leaving 7-3, if you assume 3 scum. N2 is another 3, going into 7p LYLO on D3. If his review of my game (ended) is any indication, that would bother our dear mod.

With only 2 scum, it's 5-2 on D3, even if you lynch town and town dies, its then 5p LYLO on day 4. That seems more reasonable, and more balanced.
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Post Post #1484 (ISO) » Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:29 am

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In post 1480, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Also, the existence of a vig leads me to believe we are only looking for 2 scum, and not 3, but if there is a third, based solely on Skelda associations, I'd have to guess aphix, as much as I don't really agree with that idea by gut, it makes sense.
Also this. It just can't be. There must only be 2 scum.
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Post Post #1485 (ISO) » Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:29 am

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I meant the last part about Aphix being the third. It's the only reasonable option from associations. And it just doesn't make sense.
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Post Post #1486 (ISO) » Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:33 am

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VOTE: HP
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Post Post #1487 (ISO) » Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:37 am

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And that's the hammer.
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Post Post #1488 (ISO) » Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:39 am

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If this is not game over, I do suggest that Implosion shoot me to get me out of LYLO.
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Post Post #1489 (ISO) » Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:41 am

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Actually that's a terrible idea if there's 3 scum. don't do that.
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Post Post #1490 (ISO) » Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:08 pm

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...etl why the hell did you put someone at l-1 on possible mylo when i said explicitly that i wanted to devote more time to this game later :\
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Post Post #1491 (ISO) » Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:08 pm

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oh because you're scum never mind i forgot acting is a thing
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Post Post #1492 (ISO) » Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:09 pm

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Because I believe HP is scum. Implosion, do you have reason to believe he isn't?

Also, I think because we lynched scum yesterday, you can still shoot me without giving the win if there is a third scum.
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Post Post #1493 (ISO) » Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:11 pm

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ESPECIALLY if HP is indeed scum.

Yeah.

You need to shoot me, Implosion. If this isn't game over and I'm alive tomorrow, I'm gonna be mad.
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Post Post #1494 (ISO) » Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:11 pm

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YES I HAVE A REASON TO BELIEVE HE ISN'T, HE WAS JUST QUICKHAMMERED BY APHIX
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Post Post #1495 (ISO) » Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:13 pm

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What will you do when HP flips scum, Impy? Jeez you're gonna blow a gasket.
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Post Post #1496 (ISO) » Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:16 pm

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Here's what you do.

Pretty sure HP will be flipping scum here.

If it's not game over, and there is indeed a third scum, you NEED to shoot either me or aphix.

If you shoot me, lynch aphix tomorrow, as he is the only one that makes sense based on the thread to be the third scum.

If you shoot aphix, I can almost guarantee that's game over.

If HP is town, then there's at least 1 left, looking at aphix, and we can still lose 2 town tonight with your shot and the scum kill, I think. Then lynch aphix tomorrow for the win. If there's 3 we already lost.
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Post Post #1497 (ISO) » Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:21 pm

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Please don't tell me it's ETL/aphix.
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Post Post #1498 (ISO) » Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:22 pm

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I'm not scum ffs.

I am telling him to shoot me to get me out of LYLO if it is not already game over right now.

Do you not understand this?

HP is most certainly scum.
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Post Post #1499 (ISO) » Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:25 pm

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It's not game over no matter what because implo still has a shot. If it goes through and hits scum we can still win.

This is assuming HP flips town of course.

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