Mini 1538: POWERFUL WIZARDS (SpyreX Lives!)

[LnGrrrR]

I pretty much already gave my reasons on Kanye. They are mostly gut; I don't have an open and shut case to convince you, 100%, that he is scum. Personally I think his flip flopping and desperate clawing to find a case to convince you should be enough for you to vote him, but I realize I am a bit biased because I know he was scum after you didn't hammer.

[kanyeknowsbest]

youre really grabbin @ whatever you can, arent you buddy?

[Gammagooey]

siiiiiigh

[Gammagooey]

i swear if i hammer wrong and whichever one of you gets murdered goes back and points out all the posts that should have made it easy for me to read you or the other person in post-game instead of now i will mentally shove a knife through your throat

[kanyeknowsbest]

i think that looking @ ne of my posts pre d4 should make me obvious town in retrospect :\

[kanyeknowsbest]

like i can tell you that i think needlessly engaging in that 1v1 d3 that absolutely could have gone either way would have been really retarded for me to do as scum. esp when you saying "hey maybe theres only 1 scum" would have been a free pass out of it. then consider that linger seemed like he didnt really care about what happened that day

[kanyeknowsbest]

linger was almost entirely absently coasting through d2 as well.

[Gammagooey]

how was it needless when porkens voted you first and everyone in the game assumed that either you or him were scum because of it

[kanyeknowsbest]

it would have been needless if it werent a true 1v1. i have confidence in my scum game that i could have absolutely convincingly pushed the 2 scum theory and still looked town for it to escape the 1v1. even maybe failing at that would have been better than engaging in that 1v1 (i thought i was going to lose it btw)

[kanyeknowsbest]

even after you voted porkens i was still pretty convinced tammy would eat her paranoia up and hammer me

[Gammagooey]

it would have been needless if it werent a true 1v1. i have confidence in my scum game that i could have absolutely convincingly pushed the 2 scum theory and still looked town for it to escape the 1v1.

I think I kind of sort of get what you mean but explain this for me anyway because it's not completely clicking what you're trying to say with this

[kanyeknowsbest]

im saying that scum me in that situation is in a 1v1 that it looks like im going to lose. then you waltz in and say hey guys maybe its not actually a 1v1 and theres only one scum left. in this situation i am completely confident i could wheel out into genuine looking setup speculation and come to the conclusion in a convincing fashion that i am not actually in a 1v1. doing all that i think makes the day a lot easier for me and lets me choose a really nice lylo for myself.

[Gammagooey]

@lngrrr- before we no lynched yesterday you said you would rather vote me than kanye because he's been trying more in-game and you weren't sure between the two of us. what changed between that and today?

[LnGrrrR]

youre really grabbin @ whatever you can, arent you buddy?

Says the person who pushed all day for a Porkens lynch because he looked like the easiest lynch. Did you push me at all yesterday? Apart from a few potshots to refer back to, of course?

[LnGrrrR]

Oh and two reasons I voted you: the no-lynch thing felt towny (if you were scum you likely would've pushed for the kill to end the game) and I thought about it and figured I would vote Kanye due to earlier suspicion. It was like a 55/45 decision.

[LnGrrrR]

I also don't like how all game Kanye has been like "I wouldn't kill as player because scum!Kanye wouldn't do that." It's all just WIFOM, especially at this stage. I bet Kanye is hoping he wins, because if he doesn't no one will ever trust his "scum!kanye wouldn't do this!".

[LnGrrrR]

Blah, wrote that poorly. I meant I bet he hopes to win this game, so he hasn't wasted the "scum!Kanye" in a loss.

[Gammagooey]

gonna hammer tomorrow sometime so if either of you have some last thoughts then say 'em

[Gammagooey]

also lngrr why did you think porkens was town

[LnGrrrR]

There isn't any one post I can point out as Porkens being super towny, but it felt like he was genuinely reacting to the game state. He also doesn't tunnel on any one individual, which I usually take as a town indicator. That said, he wasn't obvtown; just more towny than you or Kanye.

[SpyreX]

Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 2

kanyeknowsbest

- 1 - LnGrrrR - (L-1)

LnGrrrR

- 1 - kanyeknowsbest - (L-1)

Players not voting: Gammagooey

DEADLINE: February 10th 10:30 PM PST

[LnGrrrR]

Forgot to mention, but his "lurking on D2" claim is a pretty obvious attempt to grab onto anything he can to make you vote me.

[kanyeknowsbest]

just in case i want to say that i am NOt vengeful this game ! your vote here does matter gamma : ]

[Gammagooey]

Went through the game for a bit

And really I just feel like lngrrrs scumhunting and voting has been more off than kanye

He pushed on all 3 of kanye me and porkens for real similar reasons and I think the early vote today without a really solid read on either me or kanye behind it is more likely to come from scum (and im totally stealing pies tell of early lylo votes being scummy too)

Plus him saying porkens was townier than other people when he was saying that porkens was scummy around the time i asked about seems like hes just trying to explain things that i might think were scummy instead of elaborating on his thoughts on the game.

Sorry if im wrong and good game regardless.

Vote: Lngrrr

[kanyeknowsbest]

you made the right call imo