Mini 1804: Poker Mafia (Game Over)

ISO · Post Post #1475 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:34 am

My current guess for scum is farside/Infinity/shadow.

Don't rush things though because I'm V/LA with bad mobile access only until Tuesday, and I might want to make a case or two.

Fire Assassin · Post Post #1476 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:34 am

In post 1474, Infinity 324 wrote:Can we just lynch this already

No way you're suddenly convinced that slot is town

No, because we have plenty of time to discuss, and we need to organize the night so that town gets BP and tracker.

You rushing a lynch this early into the day is reckless and anti town.

Fire Assassin · Post Post #1477 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:35 am

In post 1475, Something_Smart wrote:My current guess for scum is
farside/Infinity/shadow.

Don't rush things though because I'm V/LA with bad mobile access only until Tuesday, and I might want to make a case or two.

Wait what?
I really want to hear more on this.

ISO · Post Post #1478 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:36 am

Also given that we might be in LYLO I wonder if it's a good idea to massclaim.

Pedid: what about it?

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1479 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:37 am

Ok we can massclaim and organize the poker hand.

Then we should lynch fire or shadow.

Fire Assassin · Post Post #1480 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:38 am

In post 1478, Something_Smart wrote:Also given that we might be in LYLO I wonder if it's a good idea to massclaim.

Pedid: what about it?

Okay, why those three specifically.
I can kind of see a Infinity/Farside team but I still don't think Infinity is likely based on my own actions.
Why wouldn't the scum just kill me if I was already planning to kill one of their own?

I can see farside trying to convince me to shoot MM instead of Infinity as being trying to direct me to shoot poorly if she is scum.

I don't understand your reasoning on those three individually and on a team.

ISO · Post Post #1481 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:44 am

I'm on mobile so I haven't looked at ISOs yet.
But some of it's PoE: I think you and lane are town, and kinda Math though I do need to hear their catchup thoughts.
Farside because of the RC push. Infinity because I haven't liked his posting and he makes sense with farside. Shadow because I haven't liked his posting. (I'll pull quotes later.)
I remember yesterday looking at ISOs and saying I could see a farside/Infinity team. I also remember saying I could see Infinity/Shadow bussing. I haven't yet looked at farside/Shadow interactions, though they both appeared to strongly believe that there were three scum.

Fire Assassin · Post Post #1482 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:47 am

I am going to go to sleep soon.

I am not willing to lynch Infinity on any circumstance today. Scum would be forced to kill him if he is what he claims or he has to clear another player if he is scum.

farside22 · Post Post #1483 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:47 am

In post 1458, Fire Assassin wrote:
In post 1456, farside22 wrote:1) lane stated he was betting his max already
2) you thought you were going to be killed but didn't shoot?
*cough bullshit cough*
I think theres a chance that if I shot wrong, the game auto ends. I don't want to go into post game and hear complaints for shooting a town investigative.

Now, I figured given my role, I would be shot if Infinity was actually scum. since I made no doubt about my role.

Can you explain why this doesn't make sense from my point of view? Essentially I called a bluff on scum, the fact they didn't go for me tells me that its likely not Infinity. So my read on him is likely wrong.

Even if lane bet his max, he can still win this hand if I fold.

1) you could have shot night 1
So this excuse just looks like crap.

Claiming VT.

I want something smart to claim next.

I'm under the impression that if someone bets max and it doesn't reach the max bid by another player, the player stays in the pot.

mod: if a player (A) bids more money then player (B) has are they still considered part of the pot or can they fold

I'm treating this like regular poker mechanics where if lane can't match it, that fire still is viable to win the pot [/b]

@lane and smart what is your view on fires claim?

farside22 · Post Post #1484 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:51 am

In post 1481, Something_Smart wrote:I'm on mobile so I haven't looked at ISOs yet.
But some of it's PoE: I think you and lane are town, and kinda Math though I do need to hear their catchup thoughts.
Farside because of the RC push. Infinity because I haven't liked his posting and he makes sense with farside. Shadow because I haven't liked his posting. (I'll pull quotes later.)
I remember yesterday looking at ISOs and saying I could see a farside/Infinity team. I also remember saying I could see Infinity/Shadow bussing. I haven't yet looked at farside/Shadow interactions, though they both appeared to strongly believe that there were three scum.

And the weak reason from smart pile on.
Pushing a scum read is not scummy and you have yet to explain why it is.
What posting from Infinity don't you like and why?

I fucking hate vague people.

lane0168 · Post Post #1485 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:51 am

In post 1189, farside22 wrote:Rereading the iso on Shadow, I missed how non-existent he has been throughout the game and he just seems to lob questions and throw shade on players without any reason or it.

My scum order is more looking like this:

RC, Shadow and MM

Yes MM stays there.
I'm not letting that go any time soon and if Fire is telling the truth (which I don't really see why he would be) I can't imagine a 2 player scum team with the PR's that have claimed.

In post 1425, farside22 wrote:
In post 1425, Infinity 324 wrote:I think they would be trying to push a CW like farside if that was the case. Or me.
There wasn't even a case on shadow.

Rc flips scum I say fire is scum with him.
If there is a 3rd I keep thinking between something smart or lane.
The gaps of logic from smart is really disturbing.
I thought I bypassed post but his lack of attention is far, far away from the game state

I'll help you with the Farside shadow stuff. She puts him in her scum pile. I take a quick look see and think ok I'll sheep this see where it goes.

Almost immediately Farside is up my asshole coming out my mouth about why I town read rc which I didn't and why I don't scumread rc and then why I don't scumread rc and wtf people voting shadow for no reason and defending shadow

Fire Assassin · Post Post #1486 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:51 am

In post 1483, farside22 wrote:1) you could have shot night 1
So this excuse just looks like crap.

Why would I shot night 1 when reads are the weakest, I subbed in when we were half way through day 1 and you think I would be confident enough to shoot then? I am a 1-shot. Why would I waste my shot so early when my reads were just forming.

ISO · Post Post #1487 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:52 am

Depends on the rest of the claims.
VT.
Popcorn to Shadow.

Pedit: I said I'll pull quotes when I'm off mobile.

Shadow_step · Post Post #1488 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:53 am

Pretty sure the scum team is MM-Mathblade/Smart/x right now, it doesn't make sense for scum to not kill a tracker.
Smart's 180 on MM on day 2 was weird as hell.

farside22 · Post Post #1489 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:54 am

In post 1485, lane0168 wrote:
In post 1189, farside22 wrote:Rereading the iso on Shadow, I missed how non-existent he has been throughout the game and he just seems to lob questions and throw shade on players without any reason or it.

My scum order is more looking like this:

RC, Shadow and MM

Yes MM stays there.
I'm not letting that go any time soon and if Fire is telling the truth (which I don't really see why he would be) I can't imagine a 2 player scum team with the PR's that have claimed.

In post 1425, farside22 wrote:
In post 1425, Infinity 324 wrote:I think they would be trying to push a CW like farside if that was the case. Or me.
There wasn't even a case on shadow.

Rc flips scum I say fire is scum with him.
If there is a 3rd I keep thinking between something smart or lane.
The gaps of logic from smart is really disturbing.
I thought I bypassed post but his lack of attention is far, far away from the game state
I'll help you with the Farside shadow stuff. She puts him in her scum pile. I take a quick look see and think ok I'll sheep this see where it goes.

Almost immediately Farside is up my asshole coming out my mouth about why I town read rc which I didn't and why I don't scumread rc and then why I don't scumread rc and wtf people voting shadow for no reason and defending shadow

Yeah and I asked why you thought that.
You know bring links to explain your thought process like I did.
Why do you keep acting like I was asking a lot?

Shadow_step · Post Post #1490 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:55 am

I'm VT

farside22 · Post Post #1491 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:55 am

In post 1486, Fire Assassin wrote:
In post 1483, farside22 wrote:1) you could have shot night 1
So this excuse just looks like crap.
Why would I shot night 1 when reads are the weakest, I subbed in when we were half way through day 1 and you think I would be confident enough to shoot then? I am a 1-shot. Why would I waste my shot so early when my reads were just forming.

That's fair, but why do you think Infinity is scum?

farside22 · Post Post #1492 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:56 am

In post 1488, Shadow_step wrote:Pretty sure the scum team is MM-Mathblade/Smart/x right now, it doesn't make sense for scum to not kill a tracker.
Smart's 180 on MM on day 2 was weird as hell.

Well this is some wifom

Fire Assassin · Post Post #1493 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:57 am

In post 1491, farside22 wrote:That's fair, but why do you think Infinity is scum?

I haven't said he was scum, the only way he is scum is if it was with you or if scum have a roleblocker thats on me to prevent me from shooting him.

The fact I am not dead told me he is likely actually town.

Shadow_step · Post Post #1494 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:58 am

In post 1440, Infinity 324 wrote:Shadow what'd you use your money on btw?

I brought JK in hopes of blocking the kill.

Shadow_step · Post Post #1495 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:59 am

In post 1492, farside22 wrote:Well this is some wifom

2 nights in a row?
MM was town read by majority of the players at the end of day 2, I can't wrap my head around him not being killed.

farside22 · Post Post #1496 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 4:00 am

In post 1493, Fire Assassin wrote:
In post 1491, farside22 wrote:That's fair, but why do you think Infinity is scum?
I haven't said he was scum, the only way he is scum is if it was with you or if scum have a roleblocker thats on me to prevent me from shooting him.

The fact I am not dead told me he is likely actually town.

You were voting him day 2 and talked about shooting him.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1497 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 4:00 am

Shadow, why was smart's 180 weird, and not farside's or FIRE'S??

PEdit: hmm JK seems awfully convenient for scum...

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1498 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 4:01 am

Shadow were/are you planning to JK scum or town?

Fire Assassin · Post Post #1499 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 4:02 am

In post 1496, farside22 wrote:You were voting him day 2 and talked about shooting him.

I am talking about today, I was scumreading him. I also was starting lean towards possibility of being wrong on him later in the stages of day 2.

You are right, I was. For some reason I thought you meant today. My read has changed.