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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2009 1:35 pm

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Just letting you guys know I have limited access as the internet has gone down at my place. Don't replace me as hopefully it will be up again soon and I will catch up then.
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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:01 pm

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@Lumi
No one did the traditional welcome post! "insert that here".

Also since I see sabre as more pro-town then scummy, can you elaborate more on this (maybe even debunk some of my own arguments). I'm not entirely convinced that his aggression against Nik can be interpreted as scummy, I see it as a neutral tell right now.

To me your summary post might read as: "soft defending Nik," but only in a faint light.

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FYI: Toro's meta shows he posts little, with odd comments. I do not know if this is a town or scum meta (the game is ongoing) but he has shown that his style is easily interpreted as scummy.

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Summary post when you get better access to internet. I want one since there isn't a lot to read as of now.

@Town who hasn't contribute more then 2 posts.
If you do not state your reasons why you are so inactive (ie I have work and I can only post once every 3 days) I'm going to have to agree with Nik's 135.
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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:18 pm

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Scott Brosius wrote:
Toro wrote: Problem with that is, it doesn't really make them look anti-town at all. And we've got a long deadline, I'm sure we're going to find scum without any distractions.

And oh that honor hasn't gone to me? Phew!

Well its better to voice one's opinions than not. It's extremely anti-town to just say "I don't know" and offer no reads.

Also the first line of your post seems weird to me. Almost over-confidence that would only be seen from an non-town player.


Anyway, I have never played in a game where there is a anti-town group that does not have NKs. Anyone have experience with this setup?
Don't know how that makes me seem overconfident at all, just pointing it out.

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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:47 am

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DTMaster wrote:@Lumi
No one did the traditional welcome post! "insert that here".

Also since I see sabre as more pro-town then scummy, can you elaborate more on this (maybe even debunk some of my own arguments). I'm not entirely convinced that his aggression against Nik can be interpreted as scummy, I see it as a neutral tell right now.

To me your summary post might read as: "soft defending Nik," but only in a faint light.
Thanks for the welcome!

The only thing pinging about saber is his posts could be seen as an attempt to shut down discussion, which of course could be just that he didn't see any merit in that particular discussion.

Really, I have so little read on anybody at this point that I'm just sending up balloons to see where they land :)
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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:43 am

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Ok, I've made a start with this game. Will start at page 5 later. But here's the first part of Zazie's 'spam' fest ^.^ (Yes, Nik, you finally get to see it in one of your own games :D)


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, can you explain why you felt the need to join a game to make a specific post against Mastin?
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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:43 am

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, how do you know Mastin? If you’ve played with him before or have seen him play in games, links?
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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:43 am

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, why did you want a bandwagon?
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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:44 am

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Post 11 – Trying to discredit the Mastin wagon.
DT Master
– What do you think of the reasons for voting Mastin?
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:44 am

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Post 16 – Bad vote. You tried to discredit the Mastin wagon by stating that he hasn’t confirmed yet. Just state why you tried to put the attention of Mastin, as you’ve failed to explain that, though Hohum asked.
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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:44 am

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Post 18 – Trying to keep the attention on Mastin. This could also be a defence for one of them (As he asks both of them to forget about it), more likely to be DT as he got the most heat.
Short stated, trying to keep us away from discussion.
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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:45 am

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Post 25
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, can you elaborate why DT’s defence of Mastin isn’t scummy to you?
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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:45 am

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Gut activated on Posts 26 and 27. It doesn’t strike me as a town player defence, but more of that from scum.
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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:46 am

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Post 30
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, how did you get the impression Hohum wanted other players to pressure vote in Post 13?
Also, why did you want to wait till the rest of the players checked in?

(Might get back to this post later)
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:46 am

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Post 34
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, elaborate on the ‘semi attack’.
Also, why did you want to wait till the rest of the players checked in?
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:46 am

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Post 35 – Bad vote. This is twisting of the words as Nikanor asked why you didn’t vote DT. That’s not demanding you to vote him. Also,
Hohum
, what changed your mind from not voting Nikanor to voting Nikanor?
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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:47 am

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Post 40 – 4 scum and the rest townies? What happened to the fifth? Also, what’s wrong with commenting on posts?
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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:47 am

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EBWOP:
As for your question (Which is a question used to keep the game in the RVS): Hohum, Cow, and I’m in ongoing games with Toro and Nikanor.


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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:48 am

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Post 42 – Bad post. You showed suspicions towards DT. Yet, you kept your RS vote (a policy vote), instead of a vote against somebody you were questioning. And if your vote against Mastin was for a good purpose, then why did you change your vote towards Nik,
Hohum
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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:48 am

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Post 50 – Good post. As for Hohum’s ‘defence’ in Post 55, wrong. Weren’t you questioning DT why he tried to de-rail it? Explain the difference between this question and Nikanor’s question.
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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:49 am

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Post 52 – Speaking for multiple players. Scummy.

Post 54 – Asking all the other players who are so far active for their thoughts, yet not doing it himself. Scummy.

Post 67
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, why are you already looking for connections when you don’t think any of the three is scummy?

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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:49 am

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Post 71
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, why did you only comment on this when there were other things said as well?
Seems scum trying to lay low.
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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:49 am

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Posts 82 and 84 – Both show a stance of non-interest. Not liking it. Post 82 is worse as he saw that there was a prod requested on him.
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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:49 am

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Post 88
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, can you elaborate how you get this impression?
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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:50 am

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Post 92 – Fence-sitting.
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Post Post #174 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:51 am

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As of now, the following look scummy:
-Hohum
-DT
-Saber
-Kill
-Toro
-ThAd
-Scott

The above 3 are more scummier than the latter 4.
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