Open 427: PYP X/Y (Day 7)

[petapan]

that was a deliberate no kill. something i hate more than anything in the world.

VOTE: no lynch

[Klick]

VOTE: No Lynch

[Venmar]

Vote: No Lynch

[Scott Brosius]

VC 7-2

Elmo TeH AzN (0)-
Klick (0)-
petapan (0)-
Venmar (0)-

No Lynch (3) - Elmo TeH AzN, petapan, Klick

Not Voting (1)- Venmar

There is no-lynch

[Scott Brosius]

Nobody died.

VC 8-1

Elmo TeH AzN (0)-
Klick (0)-
petapan (0)-
Venmar (0)-


Not Voting (4)- Elmo TeH AzN, Klick, petapan, Venmar,

With 4 alive it is 3 to lynch. Deadline is 9/27 at 1pm EST.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Mod: Is there no draw rule in effect?

[Klick]

Screw that.

[Klick]

@Mod: Is it two or three to no-lynch?

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Screw that.

We have had 2 NL-NK's happen.

And it's 3 read the vote count 3 posts up

[Klick]

I meant the fact that the Mafia won't kill.

I'm asking for clarity for my next post.

[Scott Brosius]

Mod: Is there no draw rule in effect?

If there Day 9 starts with 4 living, then it will be declared a draw.

It technically should take 2 to no-lynch (given that theoretically once two people don't want to lynch, a majority will never be reached)

[Klick]

VOTE: No Lynch

[Venmar]

Vote: No Lynch

[Scott Brosius]

VC 8-2

Elmo TeH AzN (0)-
Klick (0)-
petapan (0)-
Venmar (0)-

No Lynch (2) - Klick, Venmar

Not Voting (2)- Elmo TeH AzN, petapan,

There is no-lynch

[Scott Brosius]

Klick, Town 1-shot Vigilante, has been killed Night 8.

It is now Day 9.

VC 9-1

Elmo TeH AzN (0)-
petapan (0)-
Venmar (0)-

Not Voting (3)- Elmo TeH AzN, petapan, Venmar

With 3 alive, it is 2 to lynch. Deadline is 9/27 at 8pm

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Oh you bastards.

[Venmar]

Okay, well I am going to have to think through before I really say anything or consider making a vote.

Klick's death just proves to me of how wrong i have been...

Idk.

[Venmar]

Kind of died in here.

Petapan and Elmo, give me your reads and feedback please.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Need to read this crap shoot again.

[Venmar]

I am leaning on Petapan scum right now.

To kind of shed some light on this, i looked on to Iamausername's ISO, before he replaced out. I found it pretty suspicious that IMA threw suspicions on Pecan but didn't push on it, while at the same time rather than expanding on it or pursuing anything else, he jumped on the Jal wagon out of pure sheep. This indicated to me his bad support of the Jal wagon while distancing to some extent from Pecan. I see no connection to cobblerfone however from his ISO, but i didn't expect all that much since IMA's post count was limited due to RL issues and all that.

I am keeping Hoopla's reads closely in mind at the same time. I am going to keep her comments on both Elmo and Peta in mind for now.

Now with that said about the IMA portion of Peta's role, i am going to look into Peta's ISO now and then see if i can make a connection between him and Cobblerfone. To note something quickly before i go off to to that, i noted that Peta supported both major wagons the day he came in, regardless of the situation.

[Venmar]

Ok so yeah...

Cobblerfone didn't give me much info regarding Petapan, his reads indicate a town read on Elmo and null read on petapan. I don't know, i can interpret this as him buddying or being friendly to elmo while distancing from petapan. Then Pecan comes in an calls Elmo scum and Petapan null. The thing that overlaps is that they both thought Petapan / IMA was a null read. Peta's slot effectively put him in a easy position where his predecessors inactivity game him an easy pass as a null for a while, which i can see cobbler and pecan taking an advantage of. Now, their changing opinions on Elmo is interesting, cobbler pushed Elmo as scum but then put him as town, while Pecan has elmo down as scum the whole time. Something to consider is that Cobbler lived longer than Pecan and into day 2. There i can understand his scum moivation to change Elmo into a town read to give him some protection in a sense.

Basically, either they both were distancing from Petapan and avoiding putting suspicion on him with scumreads or buddying / making connections with him with townreads, which would make sense for me for Petapan to be their partner. Then again the side for Elmo scum can also make sense to me since they both could have been bussing Elmo, a player who was only a liability due to his inactiveness and little contribution. Cobblers change of read on Elmo could make sense after Pecan's death in an attempt to give Elmo some WIFOM or town credit.

I am not the best at this ISO thing.. but right now I am grasping at some WIFOM that only brought me back to square one, since I can see SOME KIND of connection between Elmo and Pecan / Cobbler, as well as Peta and Pecan / Cobbler. I am going to ISO Petapan now and Elmo, see if i pick up anything there.

Man, i really hate LyLo's... i'm not the best man for this.

[Venmar]

Ok well i went with Elmo first since his was faster... and i don't know what to think. Elmo's reads and votes have been predominantly completely on town members as of what i can see, and he has had little to no intention on pushing on Pecan or Cobbler. His vote on Pecan looked awfully like " Oh okay.... FINE ", like a forced vote as if he had no option left in the world. Not to mention in post 368 Elmo shows his approval of Pecans actions. Given he hasn't given any reads, and hasn't said much else on Pecan, I can probably safely assume this is a town read from Elmo. He makes no reference ever to Cobbler except for post 552 where has says he can compromise on Cobbler. He also makes a small mention of cobbler in the bellow quote...

Aside: Elmo is giving me the scumvibes. I'll try to explain if anyone's curious.

Surprise Surprise I give up with this already.

- Which i don't understand...

So here's the deal with Elmo. He literally makes no real contact with Pecan or Cobbler other than some small comments that don't mean much. This shows that he is ignoring them, and maybe distancing. However, regardless of his small town mentality on Pecan and no opinion of Cobbler, he is willing to compromise on BOTH of them. Except he doesn't actually do that on Cobbler. Add on the fact both Pecan and Cobbler had scum reads on Elmo and tried to "buss" him, I can see the connection between the three of them now.

I also found it hilarious in how Elmo just tunneled into OmNom and BK the whole game, but decides to lay off of BK in post and completely contradicts himself by agreeing with BK and going with BK's train of though in post 1045. Wut? Add on to the fact that Elmo has been hunting down only town players and avoiding contact with the flipped scum players... i am seeing the connection right now.

Scrap my leaning on Petapan for now, i need to factor in Elmo now.

Also, I took a look at the number drafts and both Petapan and Elmo have chosen the number 4... which kind of makes number analysis weak since it's obvious to me that the scum number picks were 1 ( Cobbler ) / 4 ( Peta or Elmo ) / 8 ( Pecan ).

Going to ISO Petapan now. I would appreciate if y'all started to play now.

[Venmar]

Ok sorry i will do the Petapan ISO today, i got a call yesterday and had to go out. I got school today too... so expect something from me at noon at the very earliest.

Why does this game suck so much after the active people died....

[petapan]

been unmotivated, frustrated, and more than a little pissed at how things have gone (also been playing torchlight 2). rereading tonight.

[Venmar]

Petapan, i expect something from you at some point, you haven't really been doing or saying much as of late.

This is a hard decision right now... i'll get started on that petapan ISO soon.