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Post Post #1550 (ISO) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:23 am

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I like that Zakk..

but lets try simple,and,umm..reality.

lynching me will only confirm me as town.. Trust me,you don't want that..
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Post Post #1551 (ISO) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:25 am

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Actually, wait.

We can (!) just no lynch, and keep jailing Scorpious, and just keep copping and rolecopping as we see fit. Even if metal sonic or mala or IS scum, they will HAVE to clear Scorpious' name at some point in order to kill EVER again.

And scum CAN'T win if we keep gaining info without kills. Because hypothetically, once we decide to lynch Scorpius after a long string of no-kills and cop and rolecop results, if he's town, we'll know who scum is almost immediately.

So lynching Scorpious is almost a waste at this point, at least until we have a role cop result of godfather on him.

Downsides to this plan are: if Scorpius is town, and scum decides to stop no killing, we lose one of our three known power roles anyway, which would have happened anyway if we lynched Scorpious and mala jailed wrong.

So in essence we have a chance to information overload ourselves, scum has to clear Scorpious in order to win with this plan, so we may as well not lynch him, and scum also has to kill Mala to win, which helps us get rid of a scummy albeit useful slot.

We literally can't lose (unless we fall apart and start doing random things, and let scum take advantage of developing the chaos beyond our control to regulate).

So, UNVOTE: and let's figure out what the BEST plan is for EVERY situation
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Post Post #1552 (ISO) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:44 am

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I was actually just considering the No Lynch option as well. We avoid a mislynch, and just prolong scum from being able to win. As I said earlier, if Mala jails Scorp (and admits to doing so ahead of time), scum has to no kill to make Scorp look bad, which we can try to clear at this point. If they do kill, Scorp is cleared, and it's Mala who looks bad, but then we either lynch or cop her.
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Post Post #1553 (ISO) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:14 am

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Zakk's last few posts seen really town. I see no scum motivation.
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Post Post #1554 (ISO) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:15 am

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Scorp, what changed between and ?
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Post Post #1555 (ISO) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:20 am

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If we're just going to follow the cop we should be taking advantage of lynching VT claims for ours AND their information. I'm just saying.
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Post Post #1556 (ISO) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:20 am

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Still think Scorp is v likely to be scum

I agree with signer somewhat but I like my plan better
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Post Post #1557 (ISO) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:58 am

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Lynch me then. I dont care about it if it means we can win
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Post Post #1558 (ISO) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:41 am

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My plan says lynching you before we know a lot more would be dumb

And I'm a firm believer in my plan, hence I proposed it
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Post Post #1559 (ISO) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:00 pm

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We are getting ahead of ourselves.
people have not finished claiming roles and you have started making plans on how you will use roles

IF

people claim them.

HUH?
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Post Post #1560 (ISO) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:00 pm

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or what existing checks they have if any.

WAT.
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Post Post #1561 (ISO) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:47 pm

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Like I said.. I'm VT

I'm 90% sure the last scum is mala or zakk, I've read them that way since my first post in this game.

I'm not going to spend my weekend trying to placate anyone. My vote is staying on mala.

this is probably all you'll get from me this weekend.

so,I'll say it again. Lynch accordingly
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Post Post #1562 (ISO) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:52 pm

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Metal sonic, is yet to claim and people are staing what they wil do depending on an assumed claim.
The claim if it eventuates would also come with checks.

and ...

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Post Post #1563 (ISO) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 1:15 pm

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tbh my scum game is really weak. I'd never bus both of my partners if I was scum this game. Only time I was confident I could bus was wicked mafia because I trusted my scum partners 100000%.
No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.


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Post Post #1564 (ISO) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:36 pm

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*Active lurks more*
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Post Post #1565 (ISO) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:37 pm

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Hey mod could we get a prod on Frogger, he's been gone 4 days
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Post Post #1566 (ISO) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:37 pm

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MS, why are you delaying your claim?

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Post Post #1567 (ISO) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:44 pm

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Because he's trying to catch someone lying obv
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Post Post #1568 (ISO) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:20 pm

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...

Does he think people didn't read yesterday?
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Post Post #1569 (ISO) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:38 pm

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Ok Metal Sonic now you are last.
Please claim

People are trying make plans based on you unmade claim. (and unstated checks)
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Post Post #1570 (ISO) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:51 pm

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I am an
Even-Night Gunsmith.


If my target is a Cop, Vig, Gunsmith, a backup of any of these, or scum, they will have a gun.

Otherwise, unless they are mafia traitor or mafia doc (unlikely to exist), they will not have a gun. = Clear

My role functions like a doubly nerfed cop. Therefore,
I find shadowez's "ascetic" cop claim highly suspicious, in fact I would almost counter-claim him.


I am thinking shadowez should be lynched today, because I find it highly unlikely that we have 3 (4?) investigative roles in the game. Mala is a JK = supercop if scum is one person left. I am a nerfed cop with certain false positives and day limitations. zakk is a miller for my role. I find it hard to believe that there is an "ascetic cop" when we have no protective roles in the game (note: Mala also roleblocks her target, so she isn't necessarily protective)

Also, after three nights of investigations, I find it difficult to believe that shadowez has not found a guilty or the last scum yet, only "innocents" ----> highly fakeable.

In fact, I am led to believe that shadowez is purely a scum ascetic to counter myself and mala.

In the event that shadowez is town, that is good too, because we have 3 town clears (unless godfather, but THEY would return guilty to me... so that is also kind of iffy, no?).

So, we should lynch shadowez in case he is ascetic and not a cop (because mala cannot block him if he is), and even if he flips town we get 3 town clears. Although I probably die. Bleh.

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Post Post #1571 (ISO) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:08 pm

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not tonight Josephine.
If hes town and scum dont kill him he gets a check.
if scum kill him Mala gets a total clear.

if scum don't kill him, and kill mala instead they are probably a god father aka someone who does not fear his checks.

Who have you checked for a gun so far?
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Post Post #1572 (ISO) » Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:21 am

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i think the above post should be disregarded^
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Post Post #1573 (ISO) » Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:21 am

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VOTE: shadowez
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Post Post #1574 (ISO) » Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:28 am

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Metal Sonic, how do you feel about the fact that Shaddowez only has a result for
odd nights
.
(Sorry I probably ruined that but oh well I don't feel like dealing with stupidity right now).
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