Open 581: Making Friends and Enemies! (Game over)

Heartless · Post Post #1600 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:18 am

no my case is that, as scum, you make hair-rippingly shitty cases for scummy ppl to be town which is what you're doing w/ kaboose

Heartless · Post Post #1601 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:19 am

actually
VOTE: kaboose

Kaboose · Post Post #1602 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:21 am

In post 1600, Heartless wrote:no my case is that, as scum, you make hair-rippingly shitty cases for scummy ppl to be town which is what you're doing w/ kaboose

How am I scummy?

Titus · Post Post #1603 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:21 am

I don't see why Kaboose is scum?

I had Swag who is obvious scum to me...and he fakeclaims a guilty on his buddy...that is Titus level scumfuckery. Most do not do that.

Kaboose · Post Post #1604 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:23 am

Wait you don't see how I'm scum, but Swag is scum and he fakeclaimed a guilty on his buddy, and in that case that buddy was me... So you do think I'm scum? or you don't? Because your 1603 is confusing.

Titus · Post Post #1605 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:25 am

No. I am saying because Swag is scum you cannot be as most scum do not fakeclaim on their buddies.

elleheathen · Post Post #1606 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:26 am

swag is town.

Titus · Post Post #1607 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:27 am

In post 1606, elleheathen wrote:swag is town.

So Mason fishing is town, fakeclaimed guilties when under pressure are townn, pushing mislynches is town...

Wtf... no.

elleheathen · Post Post #1608 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:35 am

Don't think it was mason fishing.

He wasn't under pressure.

Do you somehow know it would have been a mislynch? If not, then why think that he did?

There's no argument here that I don't think his play at fakeclaiming was in any way a good thing but why he did it was from town pov.

If he were scum that you actually think was under pressure and had just fucked up royally, then you probably shouldn't discount that he'd just resort to his meta of claiming scum.

He is town.

Titus · Post Post #1609 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:39 am

Elle, I do not consider meta for the most part.

Second, with that meta, he could be as scummy as he wanted and you would say he's town because he didn't claim scum. Also if your meta read is accurate, it would be a trust tell which is banned from mafiascum for obvious reasons.

Third, he is not going to fake claim on his buddy. Therefore pushing mislynches. He also ushed you. Obvious mislynch. He pushed NJAC. Known mislynch.

Titus · Post Post #1610 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:41 am

As for the mason fishing short of asking "are you a mason" I find nothing more blatant mason fishing. I might accept if someone could string together a town madon fish argument but he was looking for masons.

Kaboose · Post Post #1611 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:46 am

there was the hypoclaim as well as him directing masons on what to do as well.

Titus · Post Post #1612 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:49 am

Funny how Kaboose is "obviously scum" and he's the only other person who sees this.

I think these wagons are just attempts to protect scum.

Heartless · Post Post #1613 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:02 am

mason fishing is a shitty case b/c it's incredibly easy to do w/o saying a word and both scum and town should be doing it

elleheathen · Post Post #1614 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:07 am

In post 210, Cheetory6 wrote: I can't follow the angle of lynching him solely on the merit of a sketchy accusation of him rolefishing that feels like a stretch.

Brought to you by MASON Cheetory to KABOOSE.

Titus · Post Post #1615 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:11 am

No town should not be. Town should mason hunt to protect the masons. We should not mason fish because it leads to outed masons. If town mason hunt the masons without them outing, then town can actually take a bullet for the mason.

Mason fishing outs the masons to the group which is exactly what Swag has been doing.

Titus · Post Post #1616 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:13 am

In post 1614, elleheathen wrote:
In post 210, Cheetory6 wrote: I can't follow the angle of lynching him solely on the merit of a sketchy accusation of him rolefishing that feels like a stretch.

Brought to you by MASON Cheetory to KABOOSE.

And you wonder why Cheetory is dead and you are not? That's it right there.

He's at least open to the possibility of lynching scum. You are not.

elleheathen · Post Post #1617 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:20 am

Nope, never wondered why I wasn't dead.

Nope, he's saying that it's a 'sketchy accusation of him rolefishing that feels like a stretch." Which I happen to agree with.

He's open to the possibility of scum and he doesn't think that is even is scum!

And just because I'm not lynching swag does not = not open to the possibility of lynching scum.

WHEN I DON'T THINK HE IS SCUM.

elleheathen · Post Post #1618 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:21 am

Whatever. Keep trying to push a swag lynch. It's not happening.

Armageddon · Post Post #1619 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:38 am

Vote count Day 2.7

Players alive: 11

Players needed to lynch: 6

Green Crayons

- 2 - Lone Ranger, MalaKittens - (L-4)

Kaboose

- 1 - Heartless - (L-5)

Lone Ranger

- 2 - Green Crayons, Titus - (L-4)

MalaKittens

- 2 - Grib, Whatisswag - (L-4)

Whatisswag

- 1 - Kaboose - (L-5)

Players not voting: CptPicard, davesaz, elleheathen

Mod notes:
Still looking for a replacement for CptPicard.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2015-02-03 23:22:00)

Titus · Post Post #1620 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:47 am

Elle, if you are unwilling to lynch Swag we lose. The way his post is worded, yeah it's a stretch. Bring me more and I will reconsider. That's what his posts says. Then he's dead. More piles up. No lynchy Swag.

If you guys were open to it, he would have a wagon. He never has because I do not know.

Titus · Post Post #1621 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:52 am

Realized I got my pronouns fucked up.

Cheetory is saying the case against Swag was a stretch. Bring him more.

I get more. Major Swag resistance.

Titus · Post Post #1622 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:04 am

VLA until Monday. DnD and SuperBowl

elleheathen · Post Post #1623 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:08 am

I think most of the town playerlist is thinking that swag's play is town. It's not optimal town, it's not obvtown, it's often anti-town and even detrimental town.
But it's town.
He will not be lynched.
Not today.
Not tomorrow.
Not happening.
So yes, if by chance he does end up being scum, it's a loss. Oh well.
And it's 'Oh well' because I think there's just as much chance that it's a loss if we lynch him now and he flips town.
Today's lynch is pretty pivotal to our win chances.
And I'm not sure on exactly who town is, but I think we're pretty divided atm.
We need a flip that will answer a LOT of questions and one that has a higher probability of actually getting a scum flip.
swag is not that lynch.
I will not focus on explaining this to you because it's a waste of time.
I will however focus on what I think will give us those answers.
So I will continue my reread now.

Malakittens · Post Post #1624 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:51 am

We aren't lynching me n.n