Open 580: Tit For Tat - Game Over!
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It doesn't really matter either way I don't think, but we need to wait for the other claims to ensure this is right.Get to know me! | Unavailable on nights and weekends.-
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In post 1622, Xayzeck wrote:Claim: Backup Role Cop
I missed my first night investigation because I procrastinated, but I checked TSO last night and got Backup JK back.
I thought he was town because I thought backup JK was town, I'm dumb! I didn't want to listen to the T S O case mostly because I didn't bother looking into it now that I could check him and get it over with, but more importantly if he was scum I didn't to get my butt rekt so yeah
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Actually, you just hang anyway tomorrow if you were for some reason lying, so yeah.
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Wait, TSO asked for a massclaim on the last page. Is something getting missed here?Get to know me! | Unavailable on nights and weekends.-
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PEdit: I started writing this about 10 posts ago.
I'm not 100% sure there aren't offbeat ways to play it as scum that degrade the following a little, but I think we can win with a massclaim as follows.
We massclaim. Either scum/the real PR counters one of the claims which gives us a 50/50, or doesn't counter in which case we get 3 conftown. Can't see any way scum would claim/counter as it's suicidal at best.
Lynch today gives us 1/5 chance we'll hit scum on the lynch and win outright even if the 5 non-PR are equal chance. Better odds if we're right on who is scummy or one of the people we've been thinking was scummy is one of the PRs. Somewhere between 20% and 50% chance of a scum lynch, even taking a pessimistic approach.
Then for night we have 3PR, 1 scum, 4 VT. We clear a minimum of 1 VT and 2 PR survive no matter what, entering day with 2PR, 1 conftown, 1 scum, 2VT at worst.
33% chance of lynching scum on random odds, worst case we lynch a VT.
Next night, 2PR, 1 scum, 1 conftown, 1VT. Scum kills a PR but the other PR clears the VT, game over.
PEdit2: Wait for the complete massclaim to lynch TSO.I'm VT.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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In post 1634, davesaz wrote:PEdit: I started writing this about 10 posts ago.
I'm not 100% sure there aren't offbeat ways to play it as scum that degrade the following a little, but I think we can win with a massclaim as follows.
We massclaim. Either scum/the real PR counters one of the claims which gives us a 50/50, or doesn't counter in which case we get 3 conftown. Can't see any way scum would claim/counter as it's suicidal at best.
Lynch today gives us 1/5 chance we'll hit scum on the lynch and win outright even if the 5 non-PR are equal chance. Better odds if we're right on who is scummy or one of the people we've been thinking was scummy is one of the PRs. Somewhere between 20% and 50% chance of a scum lynch, even taking a pessimistic approach.
Then for night we have 3PR, 1 scum, 4 VT. We clear a minimum of 1 VT and 2 PR survive no matter what, entering day with 2PR, 1 conftown, 1 scum, 2VT at worst.
33% chance of lynching scum on random odds, worst case we lynch a VT.
Next night, 2PR, 1 scum, 1 conftown, 1VT. Scum kills a PR but the other PR clears the VT, game over.
PEdit2: Wait for the complete massclaim to lynch TSO.I'm VT.
I've essentially got a cop guilty
If we lynch the guilty and I'm right, we win.
If we lynch the guilty and I'm wrong, you lynch me since I have no reason to lie as town, therefore I must be scum, and you still win.
Can you just vote?GMT+8-
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True, even if you're scum we'd still have the numbers.
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I asked for a massclaim because the game was over no matter what and my kill being whatever'd was the last straw.
I don't think I particularly called Luca town, my Pasch push was just because I didn't have time.
Fuck this set-up, 0/2."i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"-Marquis-
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vote: tso"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"-Marquis-
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Sorry to whoever thought I was playing against my win condition, but the stress this game would entail just wasn't worth surviving one more day and then dying."i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"-Marquis-
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In relation to Aquanim or whoever complaining about meta - being able to fake your towngame, even if your towngame can look scummy, is good scumplay. My play here was p similar to my play as town so I don't blame the triad for getting it wrong."i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"-Marquis-
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I tried to shoot Aquanim last night - I'll link the scum QT but the third last post is me OBSESSING ABOUT XAYZECK BEING A PR JESUS so that's annoying."i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"-Marquis-
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Post #25: I kinda want to shoot Xayzeck
Post #26: THIS IS WHERE YOU NEED A SCUMPARTNER'S IMPUT BUT TOWN MURDERED ALL MINE
Post #27: BBT locks thread.
I'm out, wp town, scum not so much"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"-Marquis-
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I could maybe have derped through getting dave or acryon mislynched today but I needed a PR dead last night to make winning possible."i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"-Marquis-
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Actually, Xayzeck missing the first investigation is pretty sickening for me."i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"-Marquis-
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In post 1645, T S O wrote:I could maybe have derped through getting dave or acryon mislynched today but I needed a PR dead last night to make winning possible.
Yeah for sure. I mean once we vigged the 2nd, it was going to be close to impossible to win as scum there.Get to know me! | Unavailable on nights and weekends.-
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In post 1646, T S O wrote:Actually, Xayzeck missing the first investigation is pretty sickening for me.
Yeah it was a tossup between you and Bulba mostly, and I put off that decision too long and I didn't even know deadline passed
I fucked up bigtime and just wanted it to hit night again so I could get it right this timeGMT+8
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