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[Save The Dragons]

@boo: Not necessarily a surefire tell but it can be informative. Why is that important?

[Cheetory6]

Sorry yeah, I can see why it looks scummy for me to be asking how people are reading you because I could potentially just sheep the popular opinion. I'm just trying to get a priority worked out for who I want to read over and figured people's scumreads should be first.

someone replacing in asking for a summary is different from someone who was playing from the beginning being like 'i'm lazy, summary plz

I agree. That's why I was surprised when I realized it was Lynx because I thought he'd been in the game from the start?

Also don't vote orc.

Why?

[Bookitty]

@boo: Not necessarily a surefire tell but it can be informative. Why is that important?

Post 983.

[Save The Dragons]

@cheetory: I'm fairly confident he's town and I feel there are plenty of better choices for today.

@boo: my opinion is that it's likely null coming from ABR.

[Bookitty]

Okay. I don't have it as a scumtell for anybody; I think town does that just as much as scum. That's why I asked about a specific application of it.

[Albert B. Rampage]

someone replacing in asking for a summary is different from someone who was playing from the beginning being like 'i'm lazy, summary plz'

How so? Alignment-indicative different?

"From the beginning" being 40 pages in a day and a half.

[Cheetory6]

@STD

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Certainly possible I'll read someone scummier than him, but nobody I've read thus far has stood out as likely scum in the same way.
Can I get some reasoning on him being town?

[Bookitty]

Meh, I never see it as being a tell either way. More a playstyle thing. And yeah, mitigating circumstances do matter.

[Bookitty]

nobody I've read thus far has stood out as likely scum in the same way.

Can you expand on this, please? Do you have past experience with Orcinus? Do you think this is more his scum playstyle or his town playstyle? You mentioned possible confbias because you read Mara first; do you think that's a significant factor in this read? I'd just like to understand your thought process here.

[Cheetory6]

Never played with orci before. Approximately my fourth game on this site. Confbias on thinking Mara is more likely to be town could be influencing some of my thoughts on his reactions to her, but I think his external interactions are more damning. Him asking someone whether they're scumreading feels self-centered motivated in a way that I don't see town playing. Extrapolating on that point, his scumhunting on D1 strikes me as an expansion of that, trying to seem a certain way to everyone else, rather than actually trying to legitimately scumhunt.

[Cheetory6]

Him asking someone whether they're scumreading

*him

feels

fixd.

[Save The Dragons]

The short answer is that part of how I take stabs at a person's alignment by talking with them and conferring with my gut. Watching his play and talking with him makes me think that he is town.

I could try to go into more detail if I got more time, but his conversations and his reads seem organic to me.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

HB is town
Mara was impersonating Bert
I'll give scum Mara claiming meta when I get out of class

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Cheetory are you scum reading me??????!!!

[Bookitty]

^^ This is why I'm townreading Orci. I don't see scum acting like this.

My scum meta of Orci also has him hanging back more and avoiding controversy, things he hasn't done here.

[Cheetory6]

Cheetory are you scum reading me??????!!!

Yea.
Sup.

I could try to go into more detail if I got more time, but his conversations and his reads seem organic to me.

I'd like examples when you get the chance.
I'll be done your ISO later. Have class in the meantime.

P-Edit: Meta defenses obviously don't mean much to me. I'd need examples to understand. Still think his mindset on D1 was self-centered.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

How's it going

I'm in class but I can talk

Ask me a question

[Cheetory6]

Literally on my way out the door q.q

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Why are you avoiding me?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

That was sarcasm

But are you honestly saying that after writing a case on me you have nothing to ask?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

DANCE WITH ME MARA

I KNOW YOU'RE HERE

[Brian Skies]

It tries to ride the wave of the previous votes.

I think star points are important. I don't think they trump getting the right lynch, though. Lynx's vote looked to me as if he was just doing it for the star points (I think he actually references that in his unvote post). To me, that doesn't necessarily make him scum (see STD's late vote on Varsoon, and I'm currently reading him as town) but I can easily see how others would think it merited a vote. Your quoted answer seems to touch on this tangentially, so why would you think the wagon was so inexplicable?

So you think a desire to use one's ability merits opportunism and general lack of anything that may resemble scumhunting/actual contribution to the thread?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=32441
Bookitty

[Brian Skies]

I'm just remembering how you played in that newbie game and you aren't looking spectacular in comparison.

In what way? Also, my effort/play is variable enough that I don't think holding me to some standard will help you very much.

It's pretty obvious you and Mara probably share a neighborhood. So unless it's role-related, I don't see why you can't just explain your read there.

[Bookitty]

So you think a desire to use one's ability merits opportunism and general lack of anything that may resemble scumhunting/actual contribution to the thread?

Did you read what I wrote at ALL? You even quoted it.

Also, thanks, Orcinus. I'll read this now.