Open 398 - Alternating 9p- End of game

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Hoops. Just go with me on this. It will make sense in the end

[drmyshotgun]

Hoops. Just go with me on this. It will make sense in the end

Can I?
Sotty's counter on Split was solid. That thing: "This seems reasonable BUT here's a list of reasons why you're scummy anyway"
But this line somehow makes me think Split and Hoops are partners. Trying to earn town-cred after getting a lynch or at least good distancing?

Well Chrimi, don't be so offended. I was merely trying to find out what's exactly in your mind.

[glowball]

Turns out I have ideopathic intracranial hypertension. Been in the hospital for 2 days, hopefully I'll be home soon to post

[Amrun]

VOTE: splitfarvle

Because I can.


also, <3 glow

[splitfarvle]

@Splitfarvle, with not much to go on, my vote was more to get a reaction that to lynch scum. As our votes are our main tool in the game as town, I feel we should use them to put weight to what we say. In early game, it's not so much for scum-lynching, but more for the game to progress (beyond RVS).

This seems reasonable, but I'm not sure I buy it because you never followed up on it until you were pressed to explain yourself. I also find your case on Elmo hyprocritical because you've admitted that you yourself haven't been into the game and providing content. Besides your case on Elmo, you've just been posting excuses and defending yourself.

I think you're scum.

This seems reasonable BUT here's a list of reasons why you're

scummy anyway.

Come on man, really?

Defending yourself isn't scummy, please elaborate why you think it is in this situation. You said he had a case, isn't that more than others have been doing? Why so fixated on hoops for being "guilty" of this?

Vote: split

The "I think your scum" part pushed me over the edge. Just ugh... So fake.

It does seem reasonable, but I don't believe it because he did follow up on it. In his case on Elmo, he is accusing him of doing things that he himself are doing. I didn't say defending himself is scummy, but that's the majority of his posts.

Frankly, it's all explained right there in the post you quoted.

[splitfarvle]

EBWOP
I don't believe it because he didn't follow up on it.

[Chrimi]

Lol sorry drmyshotgun, I just couldn't tell at all what you were getting at.

And I really don't remember who was on his wagon, and the amount of VC's I've seen in this game is rather low in my opinion. I'll go check who was on his wagon...

[Chrimi]

Oh ok, this is a really different ballpark than epicmafia but ok this is gonna be fun. Meh

I think Amrun was purposely setting of Chrimi,

not that it's conclusive, just confusing. Townread on Elmo and not just because he replied to my previous post.

What I don't like about this post. Like I said we're not going into this but you're trying way to hard to set it up. I don't like it at all.
VOTE: hero_bash

You don't like it AT ALL, absolutely scummy, blah blah blah. And yet...

VOTE: Hoops
Just read the thread again. Didn't like what I saw.

What. Are you going to tell us what you saw....???

VOTE: Hero
PL GOGOGOGOGO

Then switches his vote back.

drmyshotgun, does that answer your question?

[Amrun]

Wow, that's actually a great point on accident. I forgot Elmo previously suspected hero when he made that PL comment.

You can't really "policy lynch" a suspect, and that wording makes it feel like a really disingenuous attempt at simply killing hero in any way possible.

VOTE: Elmo

[Elmo TeH AzN]

[ ] Flail
[ ] Not To Flail
[X] Do things that make no sense.

Chrimi I didn't like the exchanges between them

[Amrun]

What kind of post is that, elmo?

[Elmo TeH AzN]

What kind of post is that, elmo?

One that does exactly what I wanted it to do. Make no sense and keep on with my fluff posting.

Ill build my case later. Theres something there I haven't liked between them.

[Amrun]

Why would flailing be a town option?

[Elmo TeH AzN]

I should have Put coast. Really I was gaging your reaction to see if you would think i would do the exact same thing I've been called out on this game (IE: Coast) Or do something of worth.

Esp with one vote on me. Some people would just go crazy over it.

[Chrimi]

VOTE: Elmo
I can change that.

Consider me still voting Hoops, I'll declare intent to hammer once he's at L-1.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

VOTE: Elmo
I can change that.

Consider me still voting Hoops, I'll declare intent to hammer once he's at L-1.

Alright so you vote me for no definite reason but your still going to vote hoops.

[Chrimi]

I should have Put coast. Really I was gaging your reaction to see if you would think i would do the exact same thing I've been called out on this game (IE: Coast) Or do something of worth.

Esp with one vote on me. Some people would just go crazy over it.

Scummy excuse, and your snarky "Especially with one vote on me. Some people would just go crazy over it."

[Sotty7]

Are we running Elmo up for being lazy? Do we have proof he tries in his games as town and not as scum?

Cause that would be cool if we did.

*Reading*

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Yes because I'm lazy. And the only meta I have of scum is jungle republic. I was lynched d3 on seer guilty
Everythin else was wiped

[Sotty7]

Get well soon glow.

@Sotty7: In what sense do you mean "I don't think I like this game much."?

Sorry I missed this before.

Just that I wasn't getting into it much and it kinda sucked. But I'm warming to it now, things be picking up.

It does seem reasonable, but I don't believe it because he did follow up on it. In his case on Elmo, he is accusing him of doing things that he himself are doing. I didn't say defending himself is scummy, but that's the majority of his posts.

Frankly, it's all explained right there in the post you quoted.

Yeah, this doesn't gel. If it is reasonable then it that means there is some truth to it somewhere right? Otherwise, where does the "reasonable" part come in? It's like you put that out there first as if to soften the blow of "I think you're scum." Townies don't often want to soften the blow to people they strongly believe are scum. They want them to

diescumdie.

You're fueling the wagon with this post, while trying to look like you aren't fueling the wagon. Basically I think you are candy coating your response and it's scummy.

Are we running Elmo up for being lazy?

After reading, I'm reminded that Elmo hasn't been lazy in this game. So what's the deal here?

hoops is kinda hard to figure out. He is handling the pressure on him like a champ but I disagree with a lot of his stances. He seems to be very much a "mafia by the numbers" type player. His tone is overly serious and down to business that is often read as scummy and for some players it can be a valid scum tell. But this could just be the way he is. I'd like more time to unwrap this enigma.

Amrun, why are you being weird in this game?

[Amrun]

It depends on what you mean by "weird," Sotty. I tend to take a different approach to each new game, especially early game.

As for Elmo, I'm not voting him for being lazy at all. I'm voting him for being opportunistic and crying "policy lynch" on a scum suspect.

[drmyshotgun]

Umm, that doesn't make Hero less scummy than he already is.
Admit it, his blatant newbie card played and stating that he just wants to enjoy his Townie-ness is something that

is

worth policy lynching.

I don't really see why Elmo's Policy lynch! statement gets him his votes.

But I

am

curious of what Elmo saw in Hoops. and now why he wants Hoops to go along the same path with him is also a mystery.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

What Im curious about is why is hoops worried about one vote that was moved from him to someone else? It shouldn't matter if he was town. I just wanted to get a reaction from someone and I did. Spif didn't notice the vote while hoops worried about it imo

[Sotty7]

It depends on what you mean by "weird," Sotty. I tend to take a different approach to each new game, especially early game.

As for Elmo, I'm not voting him for being lazy at all. I'm voting him for being opportunistic and crying "policy lynch" on a scum suspect.

Okay I didn't really get your Elmo vote, but I guess that is fair enough.

[splitfarvle]

It does seem reasonable, but I don't believe it because he did follow up on it. In his case on Elmo, he is accusing him of doing things that he himself are doing. I didn't say defending himself is scummy, but that's the majority of his posts.

Frankly, it's all explained right there in the post you quoted.

Yeah, this doesn't gel. If it is reasonable then it that means there is some truth to it somewhere right? Otherwise, where does the "reasonable" part come in? It's like you put that out there first as if to soften the blow of "I think you're scum." Townies don't often want to soften the blow to people they strongly believe are scum. They want them to

diescumdie.

You're fueling the wagon with this post, while trying to look like you aren't fueling the wagon. Basically I think you are candy coating your response and it's scummy.

Just because something is reasonable doesn't make it true. I don't believe his reason because he didn't follow up on it at all. He said he was going for reactions, but there's no indication of that in his posting. ISO him and check his post right after his vote on Amrun, just an excuse about why he's not posting. Then he starts responding to pressure on him. I don't see how it's candy coating when I straight up say I think he's scum.