17 Kilos of Cocaine - [GAME OVER]

[Andrius]

I'm here.

Vote: Spiffeh

For old times. Reading now.

[Spiffeh]

Hello Andrew

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 1.3

grapes [1] - xyzzy
Cephrir [4] - xRECKONERx, Bins, Desperado, Ginngie
Bulbazak [2] - Cephrir, Ellibereth
Bins [5] - ActionDan, WhemeStar, Firebringer, Bulbazak, chesskid3
xRECKONERx [1] - Untrod Tripod
ActionDan [1] - Spiffeh
Spiffeh [1] - Andrius
Firebringer [1] - grapes
WhemeStar [1] - hitogoroshi

Not Voting [0]

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With 17 alive it takes 9 votes to lynch.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2017-09-28 08:00:00)

[grapes]

A situation where we run out of Cocaine seems impossible/highly unlikely

That's pretty, dare I say, dope.

[Andrius]

VOTE: ceph

1v1

I'd choose Ceph.
Never interacted with you before. /shrug/

Gut

Too early to tell IMO.

Everyone is boring so far you guys suck

That's because you're the only one posting.

what kind of person should we be giving the cocaine to? seem to me we should

a) spread it out
b) not give it to preexisting nightkill targets
c) not give it to scumbutts

yeah? maybe thats obvious

Agreed.

No need to track this sort of thing but we should definitely be aware of the consequences since scum win via cocaine.

I hate thinking about game mechanics it's soooooooo much work

Let's just lynch all the scum systematically and we won't even have to worry about it!

The Thing Mafia called.
It wants to remind you that you were pro-plan and pro-organization.
Even if it was a scum-driven plan.

The scum team is Cephrir, grapes, Andrius, and Firebringer

VOTE: Cephrir

True

Dude if we were scum I'd be way more excited.
Esp with UT and RECK/Spiff.

VOTE: Spiffeh seems a little weird someone who can get bored in three hours would randomly hop off the big wagon

"Bored".
More like SCUM.

That's too much analysis this early hito

hito's great stop.

gimme the coke

If you kill Spiffeh you can have any cocaine I am holding.

I want sweet sweet justice for the murder of The Deplorables.
Also he's scum.

Also I figured out a way to break the game
get 6 cocaine
get modkilled

Nah.
On principle.

Hello Andrew

?

I am happy with my Spiffeh vote for now.

[Spiffeh]

You would be

[Andrius]

Thanks for telling me how I feel.
I was fine watching you die for The Thing.
And then mr im bored comes along and its like 'uh no'.

I was going to drop a clever breadcrumb but those days are behind me.
Now I just smite heretics and protect the good.

[Andrius]

I'm worried about a couple of people flying under the radar but its D1 of D1 so we'll see how this shakes out.

[grapes]

I'm worried about a couple of people flying under the radar but its D1 of D1 so we'll see how this shakes out.

Who?

[Spiffeh]

Andrius I can't tell if your vote is serious or if you're just poking fun with "The Deplorables" schtick so please clarify

Because the former is OBVIOUSLY unacceptable

[Spiffeh]

Either way that post was kinda scummy I really hope you're not scum again

[Firebringer]

You don't think that I had a thought process behind my read on you or you don't think I should read you based on what your thought processes are?

I don't think you put any thought into read

[Spiffeh]

Jk after reading rather than skimming I think you are serious and I can maybe see where you're coming from

Yes in The Thing I thought planning night actions was an easy solution because everyone's roles were out on the table and since we already had that information I figured it was best to use it on the most organized way

That ended up both burning me out and being one of the main reasons the Town (mostly led by myself!) ended up losing so yeah

I think "planning" and "organizing" is something I wouldn't think to be as productive here because we don't have the wealth of information we did in The Thing, and I also don't feel like doing it

[Spiffeh]

I do think everything that didn't involve me in Andrius' post was kind of irrelevant and fluffy though

[Spiffeh]

I have gut scum reads on ActionDan and Ginngie and almost no town reads hooray

[WhemeStar]

Did andrius scumslip or am I dumb

[Bulbazak]

I have gut scum reads on ActionDan and Ginngie and almost no town reads hooray

What are some of the things that lead you that way?

[WhemeStar]

I have gut scum reads on ActionDan and Ginngie and almost no town reads hooray

I'll townread you if you townread me

[hitogoroshi]

a better wagon will definitely come up because a dumb vague claim isn't enough to lynch someone on

anywho: it occurs to me that starting on day 2 and beyond, if we have a choice between lynching two people and one of them has hammered someone, we should lynch that person, because if they happen to both be scum, the one who theoretically might have the maximum amount of cocaine is the one to go with

I disagree. Remember, anyone on the town who has a lot of cocaine is someone who gives the scum a lot of cocaine when they're killed. Our goal isn't to try to "give town the most cocaine"; our goal is to have the cocaine distributed as evenly as possible. We gotta be coke commies.

To make things easier to talk about, let's define the amount of starting cocaine each person has as "C". C equals about one, since it's 17 kilos for 17 people, but of course we don't know exactly. But presumably, neither do scum; so we can assume that from their point of view the coke is "evenly distributed" at start, since they don't know who are the haves and have nots. Whoever hammers today will have 2C, and become an obvious priority target for the mafia if that person is not mafia themselves. Now let's say it's D2, and our scum suspects have C and that 2C hammerer.

All else being equal

, we would prefer to lynch the person who has C, because then the best scum can do with a nk is still aiming for a 2C target. Whereas hammering someone who has 2C means that the person hammering them has 3C. Ideally, we want to wait on anyone being 3C for as long as possible. 3C is probably also the point we should activate limited-shot docs and speed vigs.

[WhemeStar]

I disagree if Im scum I'm not killing guy who hammers

[WhemeStar]

Scum can play normally and just get their 12 kg as town dies off

[Untrod Tripod]

talking about the cocaine mechanic is preeeeeeeeeeeeeeetty different than the Thing plan because we can have a good idea how much cocaine someone has based on public information

Did andrius scumslip or am I dumb

I didn't see a slip, but what makes you say that?

[WhemeStar]

His response to 77

[Untrod Tripod]

that's a no spaceman

[xyzzy]

yeah no that's not a slip