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Post Post #1850 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:38 am

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idk look for yourself and tell me what you think
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Post Post #1851 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:38 am

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Official Vote Count 3.21
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LynchingWith 7 votes in play, it takes 4 to lynch.

january
(2): PenguinPower, Gamma Emerald
Blatant Scum
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Not Voting
(3): january, Pyrrha Nikos, Blatant Scum

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Post Post #1852 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:46 am

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sheep keeps BS right below or in his towncore from the beginning along with you and Nancy.

I'm town, Gamma is town, eth0s is town and we were in his lynchpool along with Banakai and Psyche/Jan.

My town read on Nancy is pretty strong. My town read on you is fairly strong. So, sheep was trying to build a towncore that would have resulted in a 5p win.

BS' mentions of sheep:

Spoiler: Amazing, lengthy, plethora of posts talking about sheep!
In post 201, Blatant Scum wrote:
In post 198, sheepsaysmeep wrote:genuinely believes that everything he's been doing is protown
:shifty:
In post 927, Blatant Scum wrote:
In post 365, Blatant Scum wrote:I will probably sheep Dennflor this game.
@Dannflor
Tell me how scum!sheep makes sense defending me and I will become your sheep, sheeping you on Sheep.
In post 1127, Blatant Scum wrote:
intent to sheep Dannflor (and hammer sheep)
In post 1131, Blatant Scum wrote:
In post 977, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:@Blatant Scum, what is your current read on Psyche or anyone other than sheep, Banaki, me, for that matter?

Who do you think is Banaki’s buddy?
I townread you and Dannflor

I think that Psyche's reaction on you calling Psyche/ Banakai scumteam makes their team very likely to be scum.

conftown: Blatant Scum eth0s
town: Dannflor Pyrrha Nikos
NAI: Gamma Emerald sheepsaysmeep PenguinPower
scum: Banakai Psyche

If at least one of {Banakai, Psyche} is town, it makes the other go to NAI
In post 1137, Blatant Scum wrote:VOTE: Sheep


I could lynch BS today.
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Post Post #1853 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:58 am

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Actually, now I prefer BS.

VOTE: BS
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Post Post #1854 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:27 pm

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Also, I think BS fits Pyrrha’s observation of sheep not really fighting his lynch too much, much more thank Banakai actually.

Banakai and Psyche were the lines up lynches, whereas BS, while maybe not accepted as town by everyone, honestly hasn’t been in danger
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Post Post #1855 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:01 pm

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i would be willing to lynch BS but

@penguin can you answer this
In post 1840, january wrote:when did your read on banakai change?
don't remember you ever indicating you townread him
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Post Post #1856 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:13 pm

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In post 1503, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 1476, january wrote:anyone wanna read my penguino case or comment or something i put so much work into it

bc i seriously have no idea how penguin is townread and i really want to know
It's a bad case built around a prior assumption and looking for rationale versus the other way around.
In post 1477, Dannflor wrote:Penguin, what's your read on the january/Psyche slot?
I'd probably lynch it after BS but before Banakai. The ate worked.

My opinion on her case on me is above.
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Post Post #1857 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:14 pm

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I don’t necessarily town read him but his ate knocked him down in the order (yes, even though it shouldn’t - it felt somewhat genuine).
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Post Post #1858 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:39 pm

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im very split on BS. I see where your coming from but I wouldn't feel totally good voting the guy who litterally claimed scum after he cools down and starts acting normal
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Post Post #1859 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:08 pm

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In post 1813, Dannflor wrote:Pyrrha, do you feel most strongly about january or Banakai right now?
I don’t know if she was serious about wanting to self-hammer but one of them needs to be flipped today and Banaki should never get anywhere near LYLO, so it’s probably the better vote.
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Post Post #1860 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:10 pm

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In post 1820, january wrote:
In post 1796, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:
In post 1784, january wrote:oops i was going to lynch january guess i'll wait
:o

You’re not joking? You were seriously planning to self-hammer? Why? Why would you do that? You don’t KNOW Banaki’s alignment if you’re town, so why fall on your sword for him?
???

i know its really hard to read sarcasm over the internets but you don't really believe i meant this do you...
Why did you say you should be flipped over a player over you, solely based on having a confident read on them?
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Post Post #1861 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:14 pm

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In post 1828, january wrote:last ego post and then i'll answer (i might kinda be avoiding your question bc i honestly don't know what i think rn)

pyrrha - i didn't misrep you and i'm pretty sure dann didn't either. if anything it might have been a misunderstanding? but i do believe a lot of our comments on you are mostly true.

but you said this
In post 1768, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:@january
if I’m scum here,
I don’t unvote you and switch to Banaki. You’re making this extremely difficult for me to persuade Dann into lynching Banaki over you. :/
which suggests that you think i'm calling you scum?
and i don't recall ever saying or thinking that in any recent posts
No, I wrote that because it seemed that you thought I might be? And because it’s true, I wouldn’t have switched back to Banaki as scum.
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Post Post #1862 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:18 pm

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In post 1829, january wrote:
In post 1792, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:
In post 1774, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:UNVOTE:

VOTE: january

Town!january doesn’t ask to be flipped first.
And I also expect a fucking apology for your continual discrediting of my reasoning for making reads.
me too! can u apologize to me for misrepping me and saying that i
In post 1589, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:haven’t come up with even a single reason why [Penguin] is scum... no basis whatsoever.
ok im done
I still don’t agree that town!ANYONE should ever say that in this kind of setup. And I didn’t agree with your reasoning on Penguin but okay, I don’t know you and having a reason I wholeheartedly disagree with isn’t exactly the same as what you said. Okay, so it wasn’t 100% accurate, so sorry.
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Post Post #1863 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:19 pm

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In post 1830, january wrote:jk not done
In post 1793, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:Otoh, it’s not at all suspicious if she instead were to say, “I refuse to vote Banaki, even to self-pres”, because that could even be seen as town indicative but to actually say, she should be flipped before someone no matter how confident she may be on their alignment, she can’t actually KNOW it unless she’s scum and that’s WHY I voted her but stop pushing her wrongheaded
beliefs about me,
especially when I clearly laid it out for you in black and white, EXACTLY what my reasoning was.
well first of all that's what i thought i said? or implied? or something?

second of all this setup is quite different than traditional setups bc me flipping myself doesn't mean i'm removing myself from the game. it means that i can actually make reads without worrying about you calling me scum for making reads you don't agree with (that's a collective "you" - not targeted at one person specifically).

and right here in bold you said you voted me so that i would stop holding some (idk what?) belief about you. so did you think i scumread you?

can you answer this bc it really sounds to me like you're saying you voted me for having a read on you (which i think you also misunderstood)
It was a typo. I meant to say, “your”.

It was directed to Dann.
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Post Post #1864 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:22 pm

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In post 1833, january wrote:at this point i'm like
55% penguin 35% BS and 10% paranoid
Okay, I’m not interested in lynching january anymore.

Definitely not today anyway. I feel rn, she has more mislynchbait equity than scum equity.
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Post Post #1865 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:23 pm

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In post 1834, january wrote:it makes me happy that you're interacting with me rn so i gave you some townpoints

and i guess there's some "majority's probably right" influence and i'm extra un-confident because everyone agrees that i'm wrong

but i still dunno what exactly you've done to make yourself so supertown that i get scumread for pushing on you
???

I already told you why?
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Post Post #1866 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:23 pm

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In post 1835, PenguinPower wrote:I think a lot of it is meta based and you haven't played with me before so you don't know.

I'm a little less confident you are scum right now, but like you, my lynch pool is you > BS.
How is BS scummier than Banaki?
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Post Post #1867 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:25 pm

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In post 1838, Dannflor wrote:He says intent to hammer January a couple days ago and now is like “wait let me ISO her this weeekend”?

He hasn’t taken a hard stance this day phase.

And tbh, he was in a very good position after the sheep flip
How do you figure that? Sheep made him look like his buddy and never made even any attempt to distance him.
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Post Post #1868 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:27 pm

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In post 1839, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 1836, january wrote:
In post 1834, january wrote:but i still dunno what exactly you've done to make yourself so supertown that i get scumread for pushing on you
if i am lynched i will force you all to answer this question tomorrow

so if you don't want to/don't know how to answer this question then you should not lynch me

just kidding

mostly
Already answered...
Oh :lol: january meant Penguin. Yeah, that explains why what she said didn’t make any sense to me.
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Post Post #1869 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:27 pm

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In post 1867, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:
In post 1838, Dannflor wrote:He says intent to hammer January a couple days ago and now is like “wait let me ISO her this weeekend”?

He hasn’t taken a hard stance this day phase.

And tbh, he was in a very good position after the sheep flip
How do you figure that? Sheep made him look like his buddy and never made even any attempt to distance him.
Sure. But Banakai was set to be lynched anyway, whatever sheep did wasn't enough to town spew him. BS on the other hand was in a perfectly fine position, which would explain sheep's lack of will to fight a little better than Banakai, I think.
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Post Post #1870 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:28 pm

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In post 1841, Dannflor wrote:Also contrary to Pyrrha, I do find the “Why would sheep defend me” question before getting on the wagon yesterday a somewhat above rand SvS interaction
I think either you misunderstood my point or I wasn’t clear enough. Sure, it could also have come from scum but Banaki was completely frozen during sheep wagon, was my point.
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Post Post #1871 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:30 pm

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In post 1845, Dannflor wrote:I changed my mind

VOTE: BS

This isn’t even a compromise, I think this is just scum.

Look at his ISO today and tell me what he’s done. He’s been town read for lack of agenda but he doesn’t need an agenda if January and Banakai are lined up as mislynches. Hell, eth0s, who is dead, has provided more hard content than him.
eth0s wants Banaki. What?
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Post Post #1872 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:31 pm

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In post 1869, Dannflor wrote:
In post 1867, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:
In post 1838, Dannflor wrote:He says intent to hammer January a couple days ago and now is like “wait let me ISO her this weeekend”?

He hasn’t taken a hard stance this day phase.

And tbh, he was in a very good position after the sheep flip
How do you figure that? Sheep made him look like his buddy and never made even any attempt to distance him.
Sure. But Banakai was set to be lynched anyway, whatever sheep did wasn't enough to town spew him. BS on the other hand was in a perfectly fine position, which would explain sheep's lack of will to fight a little better than Banakai, I think.
Sheep put BS in a terrible position, so hard disagree with you on that.
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Post Post #1873 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:34 pm

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Sheep was voting him and everyone but apparently me and eth0s, aren’t seeing that as distancing?

Also, I recently finished modding a game town!BS played in and he asked the exact same role pm colour question in that game. He trolls in every game he’s in.
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Post Post #1874 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:35 pm

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Don’t hammer BS until you hear from him and eth0s.

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