Mini 1749: Classic Rock Mafia: Game Over!

[RadiantCowbells]

Classic Rock Mafia:

Votecount #5.76:

Davesaz (2): Aeronaut, Frozen Angel
AlwaysInnocent (1): Davesaz
Aj The Epic (0):
Frozen Angel (0):
Aeronaut (0):



Not voting: AlwaysInnocent, Aj The Epic,

With 5 alive it's 3 to lynch.

Night falls in (expired on 2016-02-16 14:00:00).

Song:

Green Day: Boulevard of Broken Dreams

Notes:

yes its newish stfu I used up my entire bank of songs.

[Frozen Angel]

Are you town reading AI?
I'm handing you scum on a silver platter and you're not reading what I'm saying.

to be clarified I'm not town reading either of you 3

[Frozen Angel]

and thats the fucking problem here

[davesaz]

So why not?
100% of the time, miller is town. That alone should sway you to the point of choosing someone else.

[Frozen Angel]

if your miller your town yeah

[AlwaysInnocent]

Are you town reading AI?
I'm handing you scum on a silver platter and you're not reading what I'm saying.

You're handing people "scum on a silver platter", eh? If you're town, have you not learned anything from the overconfidence?

[Aeronaut]

Are you town reading AI?
I'm handing you scum on a silver platter and you're not reading what I'm saying.

to be clarified I'm not town reading either of you 3

[Aeronaut]

So why not?
100% of the time, miller is town. That alone should sway you to the point of choosing someone else.

This is a crummy defense. Just because Taly claimed miller doesn't mean it's true. And you've done nothing the whole game to make you seem town.

[AlwaysInnocent]

I'm going to play some more Age of Empires 2. At least I know who my enemies are in that game.

[davesaz]

@FA: You have "too easy to be true" syndrome. Never say never.

@AI: There is 0% chance that I'm scum. If Aero and FA are both town (seems very likely) then it's at least 50% of hitting scum today and 100% chance of town winning.
VCA and your behavior (in particular who you scumread and why) say it's you.
If you really are town, then AJ should be your target.

@Aero: That's utter bullshit, I've done plenty town.

[AlwaysInnocent]

@FA: You have "too easy to be true" syndrome. Never say never.

@AI: There is 0% chance that I'm scum. If Aero and FA are both town (seems very likely) then it's at least 50% of hitting scum today and 100% chance of town winning.
VCA and your behavior (in particular who you scumread and why) say it's you.
If you really are town, then AJ should be your target.

@Aero: That's utter bullshit, I've done plenty town.

Believe it or not, I am really town. The most terrible town player in the world currently, but yeah, definitely town. I double-checked to be sure.

If you think I should have at you at "0% chance to be scum" if you were town, then you have really crazy ideas.

[AlwaysInnocent]

By the way, Vanilla Townie also has 100% chance to be town. Every game. Just check it if you don't believe it.

I am a VT. Therefore 100% guaranteed town.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Mafia Miller

: if targeted by a Cop, the result will show "guilty".

Mortal Townie

: if targeted for a nightkill, they will die as usual (unless protected).

[AlwaysInnocent]

Trackable PR

: if targeted by a Tracker, the Tracker will know who you targeted (unless roleblocked).

[davesaz]

If you really are town, then AJ should be your target.

[AlwaysInnocent]

1-Shot Bulletproof 1-Shot Bulletproof

: your 1-Shot Bulletproof is protected by another 1-Shot Bulletproof. You will become a regular 1-Shot Bulletproof if you are attacked.

[AlwaysInnocent]

If you really are town, then AJ should be your target.

No, but I am not saying it is impossible. It seems unlikely that you are the Miller, because the Cop would be so grossly underpowered that it is unlikely that the game setup would have been accepted.

Meta-gaming.

[Aeronaut]

So. do you think he's scum?

[Frozen Angel]

Aj where are you man?

whats your reads?

[AlwaysInnocent]

Likely, but I am very cautious about being too confident this time.

[Aj The Epic]

So why not?
100% of the time, miller is town. That alone should sway you to the point of choosing someone else.

This is a crummy defense. Just because Taly claimed miller doesn't mean it's true. And you've done nothing the whole game to make you seem town.

Also, I did just finish a game as a scum miller and very nearly won it. The issue with comparing games is I fumbled how to play it, but it is inherently a very, very powerful role. The noticeable difference is that there was at least three investigative roles had in that game (1x Role cop, 2x naive cop (not sure if counts), 1x actual cop shot, and inventor who game 1x role cop).

In context of what roles exist, I think miller seems a bit weak a role with an every-other-day cop. But at the same time, ABR being so willing to push what is generally a fragile role is a bit disconcerting.

Aj where are you man?

whats your reads?

Is there really any reads to have here? There's only logic remaining on why someone can or cannot be scum, since we know the target SHOULD be within AI, me, Dave.

[AlwaysInnocent]

What do you mean? Albert B. never wanted to push Taly. He only expressed his "concerns" about it. Furthermore, he added some joke about why Taly had to be scum, but then said that there were better lynch candidates. If the Taly/Dave slot is scum, then the joke could be seen as a way to discredit the idea that we should look into the Miller claim, in combination with his suggestion that we should focus on other people.

[AlwaysInnocent]

What do you mean by "the Miller seems a bit weak role"? Do you mean that the Miller with an even-day-Cop is less harmful to Town than a Miller with an every-day-Cop? Or the opposite?

[Aeronaut]

I'd really like to lynch dave today.

If we end up with him in LYLO it's gonna be too hard to sort him.

[AlwaysInnocent]

In that case, I'll state my intent to hammer. If it's not too early.