Mini 1717 Alfred Hitchcock UPick [GAME OVER]

[Antihero]

The Alfred Hitchcock Hour

Vote Count 4.2

Not Voting: Ankamius, Davsto, farside22, hiplop, massive, Nachomamma8, Vedith

Nachomamma8 has been prodded.
4 to lynch
Deadline: (expired on 2015-12-03 00:48:59)

[massive]

massive, did you get roleblocked last night y/n

I did not get roleblocked last night.

[hiplop]

Emphasising vote on davsto

VOTE: davsto

NO FUCKING WAY IS THERE 2 ASCETCS AND TWO ROLEBLOCKERS

DAVSTO IS SCUM.

[Davsto]

I love how you say "emphasising" when you weren't even voting me before.

If I am scum, why the hell would I target Nacho with my action each night? It makes absolutely no sense. As scum roleblocker, I wouldn't have bothered once I learnt he had no night action, since that's what you're trying to pin me as, but basically no role makes sense to continually target someone as, apart from as a Jailkeeper protecting/blocking someone.

[hiplop]

you didn't, thats why?

I GOT ROLEBLOCKED LAST NIGHT. IEITHER THERE IS AN ASCETIC JAILKEEPER (doctor + ROLEBLOCKER), ASCETIC AND A SCUMROLEBLOCKER, DAVSTO IS LYING.

lynch this scum.

[hiplop]

I know massive is town 100%, and therefore hes telling the truth.

That means its not thors role.

[Davsto]

massive, talk some fucking sense into hiplop and tell him your results asap so he can concentrate on actual scum.

[massive]

Davsto didn't block you last night, hiplop. He visited Nacho again.

[Ankamius]

Massive, how many people (including you) visited Nacho night 2?

[farside22]

I think I noticed something but I'm not home to check.
I think I read 2 watcher claims too from massive and anka?

[Ankamius]

That's correct, yes.

[farside22]

That's correct, yes.

why is hippy up in arms over dav and verideth as role claims go?

I think one of the watchers is scum.
Mostly because I can't imagine 4 investigation roles with a backup being in this game and all town.

Anka did you ever finish your claim?

[Nachomamma8]

The reason I claimed the hiplop info was because of his drunk "massive is town, pistachio is scum, trust me" is because I thought that he was crumbing to have seen Pistachio making the kill Night 1: that would have made his insistence earlier make complete and total sense. I initially claimed this because I was overly confident and tipsy but wanted to back out of it in a way where I wouldn't get hiplop killed and I wouldn't get lynched.

Was dumb as shit, so sorry about that.

[Nachomamma8]

I don't understand your case. Nacho said his Hiplop read had nothing to do with his role.

He was scum reading hippy day 2.

He said he knew hippy was town due to his role.
He said he went nowhere.

Dear lord do I need to draw a map here?

So you thought that me as scum forgot I was scumreading hiplop Day 2?

Or that I didn't realize I needed to claim to be going somewhere in order to fake having an investigative role?

[Nachomamma8]

I've never interpreted it that way. I interpreted what he said as "I claimed an innocent on hiplop to try and draw a nightkill." I'm not sure why there's so much confusion.

Because it's an easy way out.
If he was town and his role works the way he said it does, then what if he was night killed? We would then have a confirmed on someone who isn't. It's anti town behaviour.

Since my role would be flipped in full, you would also know that I couldn't get an innocent on hiplop based on role.

[Nachomamma8]

So Nacho lied about a confirmed town result.
Then gets indigent when I point out his read on hiplop and the cop flip and heca role makes his claim impossible and now it's down to welp I claimed so scum would shot me.
People wonder why I'm scum reading Nacho

I can't say I remember getting indignant this game? Confused, sure, but not indignant.

I also don't understand the complete second half of this post. Cop flip and Heca role makes my role impossible? Why?

[Nachomamma8]

I've already claimed, The Birds, Ascetic Jailkeeper, jailed Nachomamma8 every single night.

You stole my birds!

Mass claim is fine.
I half claimed already so I'm going to just finish.

Norma Bates - town - Reflexive Neighborizer, Modified Commuter

You can't commute if you neighborize someone, I'm guessing?

[hiplop]

That's correct, yes.

why is hippy up in arms over dav and verideth as role claims go?

I think one of the watchers is scum.
Mostly because I can't imagine 4 investigation roles with a backup being in this game and all town.

Anka did you ever finish your claim?

I got roleblocked last night. Jailkeeper + roleblocker is a strange thing to put in a game

[Nachomamma8]

I've jailed Nacho every night, and will likely do so for the foreseeable future. As far as I care, that means if he's scum I'm blocking scum (which likely has a good PR besides the main), and if he's town then I'm protecting a strong PR that doesn't currently have any actions so I'm not stopping him from being useful.

Regardless of my alignment, you're reducing your chances of actually blocking a kill to zero, which is strange when blocking the kill is the strongest offensive capability the jailkeeper has.

[Ankamius]

No, I didn't. I'll out my results once Massive answers my question.

PEdit: @Farside asking me if I finished claim.

[Ankamius]

I'm really liking a Hiplop + Massive team right now.

[Nachomamma8]

I can't say that I understand why.

[Nachomamma8]

You think that there were 2 ninjas put in the game to counter a delayed watcher?

If your information on massive N1 is that he targeted me, he's also confirmed town.

[Ankamius]

Massive outed the information I have on him, Nacho.

I saw him target you on night TWO.

[Nachomamma8]

Ascetic Jailkeeper makes sense because it has a fine interaction with scumblocker.

Duplicate roles are to be expected with my specific backup role, which is likely designed to make lynching counterclaims less scary for town.